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AVMA Take 2

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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....

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A family tree?

Again, getting it out of my head.

Family tree? No.

The tree chopped down by some ancient Usatian vandal?

The Cherry Tree chopped down by George Washington?

Is it a tree from an historical/semi-legendary story?

Yes, yes, and again yes.

The words on the card are The Cherry tree allegedly chopped down by the young George Washington. The story is probably fabricated, hence my classification. I am pretty certain that this was exactly what INJ was referring to, so I think he should get the rather nicely turned cherrywood baton ahead of GL.

I agree, I would have had to turn it down anyway due to lack of free time.

Well, thank you

[GL] Very gentlemanly of you Sir or Madam. Right, after a somewhat busy weekend, we'll start again with:
ANIMAL with ABSTRACT connections - or - ABSTRACT with ANIMAL connections - Depends on your pov

Is the animal human?

[Chalky] human? - NO

A mammal?

[Chalky] mammalian? - NO

A Dragon?

The serpent in the Garden of Eden?

News International get everywhere.

Insect?

Fictional?

Not many more orders to try

[GL] Hidden Dragon? - NO
[Rosie] herpetological? - NO
[Software] Insect? - NO
[Kinrah] Made-up? - Well, that's why the question is posed as it is. FWIW, my answer is YES, and I suspect that would apply to most, but maybe not all, of the contributors to the morniverse.

To do with religion?

[Projoy] smells and bells? - YES (*a small ripple*)
I did rather signal that, didn't I?

Something from Judeo-Christian legend/history?

Angelic?

A sacred animal in some religion?

[Projoy] Judeo-Christian? - YES
[Dujon] Non angli sed angeli? - NO
[Rosie] Baal-lamb? - NO

Devilish?

A character from the Old Testament?

[Software] From the very dark side? - NO
[CdM] OTT? YES

A bird?

[Rosie] Avian? - YES *applause*

Dove-ish?

[Software] Dived? - NO

A raven?

[Projoy] Raven? - YES * Applause and the noise of coats being put on, bags being picked up, etc.*

The raven that couldn't find the olive tree?

We have a winner

Very impressive - I thought that would prove a little more difficult.
The answer is indeed The Raven that was the first bird released from the Ark
One gopher-wood baton handed on

Oops. Was working all day. I think I might have to pass again, as still rather behind with work. The floor is open.

It's been sitting here for a while, so I'll take it.

ABSTRACT with ANIMAL and sometimes MINERAL connections

Fictional?

Are the animal connections non-human and mammal?

[Tuj] Made up? YES
[irach] Mammalian but non-human? NO

Does this come from a work of fiction such as a novel?

Animal human?

[Rosie] Bookish? YES and NO
[INJ] Humanity? YES

From a non-novelistic work of fiction?

Is the mineral metal?

Religion based?

[Projoy] Fictional? YES
[GL] Metal? CAN BE
[Dujon] Religous? NO

A weapon?

Science fiction?

[Dujon] Object capable of harm? NO *animated whisperings from audience*
[Software] SciFi? CAN BE, but it would be more helpful if I said NO

From the world of motion pictures?

[INJ] YES and NO; however again NO is more helpful.

Begins with P?

Is the mineral liquid?

[Tuj] P-to the rest of it? NO
[INJ] Liquidity? NO

Is the Abstract a quality ascribable to humans?

[Rosie] Quality of humanity? NO

Is the animal a single identifiable person?

[INJ] A single identity? VERY NO.

A single-word answer?

A particular battle?

[Tuj] One word? To be honest it depends on whether you're being definitive, in which case the answer is YES, or whether you're being more abstract, in which case NO. Either way you won't get a very helpful answer.
[Dujon] A battle? Some could call it a battle, but it's going to help more if I say NO

A riot or similar unruly assembly?

A cause? (e.g. Suffragettes)

[Rosie] I predict a riot? NO
[Dujon] Group with a common goal? NO

Any chance of a clue?

[Tuj] I don't see why not.
A run through of what you know:
It is fictional
Involves humans in some way
The mineral can be metal at times
Not a weapon but the audience seemed to like the word
Nowhere near a single person

If I had to give an extra clue: it is a game. I can't get more blunt than that.

Does or has the game exist(ed) in the real world as well as the fictional one?

Is it something akin to chess pieces?

Lewis Carroll connection?

[Rosie] I'm not quite sure what you mean. Could you please elaborate?
[Dujon] Chess pieces? NO
[irach] Alice related? NO

Nought's and Crosses?

(tic-tac-toe to our American Morniversers)

[Software] O&X? NO

Boardo?

(Kinrah) You say it's a game and is fictional, which to me could mean it only takes place in a story and could be a game that does not exist in the real world (e.g. competitive vole-polishing). Or it could be a known game between fictional contestants, such as Melchester Rovers etc.

[GL] Checkmate, I'll take that card? NO some whisperings from audience
[Rosie] Ohh. I meant fictional as in the story behind the game is fictional, as opposed to something based on a true story. I apologise if you didn't read it that way. Yes, the game exists in the real world, whether the players are fictional or not is entirely up to a writer's discretion.

Is the result of the game significant to the story?

Nonsense - is it?

Fantasy Football?

[Rosie] Result significant? YES
[Software] Gobbeldegook? NO
[Kim] Fan Made Foot Sports? NO

Ok, since this doesn't seem to be going anywhere, I'm going to reveal the answer and pass the baton to somebody else.

I was thinking of the game of Cluedo (or I believe it's called Clue in the US). Hence:
Fictional
Animal connection human
There have been books and films made on the subject
Pieces can be made of metal or other minerals
Involves weapons (see audience reaction)
Many identities
A one or multi-word answer depending on whether you say 'A Game of Cluedo' or 'Cluedo'
The end of the game is significant in that the true murderer is locked up

In any case, a candlestick-shaped baton handed to whoever wants to take it.

Well, reading back, I think that Tuj actually won the round at 3:48 pm on the 2nd of March. So it must be his turn.

[CdM] Very generous ;) I'll have to decline as this is about the busiest period of my life, certainly thus far. Baton, anyone?

I'll take the baton if no one is using it. MINERAL

Metal?

Stone?

[Rosie] Metal? No.
[Software] Stone? No.

liquid?

Gaseous?

Excluding flatus, obviously

[INJ] liquid? No, is the most useful answer. Partly, is more accurate.
[Rosie] Gas? Yes

Is the mineral water?

In whatever state.

[INJ] water? Not to any significant extent, no.

Found in the home?

[Software] Found in the home? No (Sounds of mirth from the audience).

meteorological/atmospheric?

[INJ] meteorological or atmospheric? Technically no, but it may be related.

Flammable?

Connected with transport?

Composed primarily of a single element?

[Rosie] Flammable? Depends what you do with it, but normally probably not.
[Software] Transport? No.
[INJ] Single element? Yes. (More than 75%)

Compressed air?

[Rosie] Compressed air? No

One of the Inert Gases?

[Rosie] Inert gas? No

Correction: [INJ] I have double checked and it might be slightly less than 75% composed of a single element.

Anaesthetic?

[Rosie] Anaesthetic? No.

The sun?

Not the penny dreadful.

*Smattering of applause from the audience*
[Rosie] Sol? No.

Some other star?

Is the single 75%ish element hydrogen?

Helium?

[Software] Helium? No.
[CdM] 70-75% Hydrogen? Yes.
[Rosie] A Star? No.

Jupiter?

By Jove, that had better be right.

[Rosie] Jupiter? YES. Have a baton.

Well, that was quick, and this may also be not too difficult .
It's ABSTRACT

A pseudonym?

Don't ask, I don't know.

(Dujon) - Not a pseudonym.

A human concept?

(Softers) - Human concept? - YES

Specifically European?

Does it begin with P?

(Softers) - Specifically European - NO. *one or two sniggers from the audience*
(Gusset Login) Pinitialism? - NO. Not in English, at any rate.

Specific to some particular culture or place?

Related to language?

(CdM) - Specific to some particular culture or place? - YES, but only in terms of the actual word (s) on the card.
(Dujon) - NOT language-related.

Any political connection?

(Softers) - Political connection? - YES, very much so, Gary. *vigorous audience applause*

Pertaining to the erstwhile Soviet Union?

The Great Firewall of China?

(irach) - NO, not pertaining specifically to the USSR.
(INJ) - Good thinking but NO, alas.
Clarification regarding CDM's query - the best answer is really a straightforward NO. Anything else may be misleading.

A joke of some kind?

(Dujon) - A joke? NO, far from it.

Anything to do with expenses?

Although they are far from abstract.

(Softers) - Expenses? - YES, though not exclusively. *vigorous applause*

An Election?

Obviously not imaginary duck houses??

(INJ) - NO, not an election.
(Softers) - Mallard's engine shed? - NO, but *further mild applause.*

Corruption?

(CdM) - Corruption? Getting very warm. *more audience applause*

A quango?

(Dujon) - A quango? NO.

Fictious parliamentary expenses?

(Softers) - One ball of string, one skewer, one pair of scissors as Representative of the All-Party Conker Committee? - NO, but that's part of it.

An inquiry of some sort?

Obviously dancing around it ...

(Softers) - An inquiry? - NO. Dancing round it is the very phrase. :-)

A government policy of some kind (e.g. the budget)?

(Dujon) - NO, not government policy at all, at least as they see it.

A Leak?

(INJ) - NO, not a leak.
This is a rather general term.

Sleaze?

SLEAZE it is! Well done GL. Over to you.

Oh, OK my turn, I guess.... ANIMAL

Human?

Alive?

[INJ] Human? Yes
[CdM] Alive? At one time, but not now.

Famous individual?

European?

[Softie] Individual of note? Yes
[INJ] European? Yes

Male?

[i,rach] Male? Yes

British?

[Rosie] British? Yes

In the entertainment field?

Artistic?

In a broad sense

[irach] An Entertainer? Yes
[INJ] Artistic? That's a matter of personal opinion. Some would say he was and some that he wasn't, I suspect.

Born in the 20th century?

[Rosé] A 20th Century Boy? Yes

A banjo/banjolele/ukelele player?

[Dujon] A banjo/banjolele/ukelele player? That's three questions. At least one of which would have the answer yes.

George Formby?

[Software] Ooh, mother. Turned out nice again? YES have this baton that was leaning on a lamppost at the corner of the street.

*Blushes as that certain little lady passes by*

Dammit, now I have to think ...

I know - ABSTRACT with ANIMAL Connections

A fictional character?

More than one animal involved?

A human construct?

A G-string?

[Gusset Login] I'm ever so pleased. ;-)

[GL] - Bugs Bunny? NO
[irach] The Herd? - YES
[Rosie] Imagination? YES
[Duj] Airy stuff? NO

An organisation of like-minded individuals?

Would Calgary be related?

[Rosie] affiliation? NO * spattering of applause from audience *
[Duj] Stampede? Not sure what you mean but NO is probably the answer.

A fictional group of humans?

Any connection with sports?

[GL] Imaginary? NO. * chuckling from audience *
[Juxta] Fitness? NO.

Any connections with politics?

[Rosie] Collective decision making? YES!

A general election?

A marginal constituency?

[Pro] Current mêlée? - NO. * some laughter and applause from audience *
[Rosie] Tactical territory? - NO.

Some kind of discussion?

A hung parliament

Or a hanged parliament, if you prefer that idea.

[Pro] Debate? - NO.
[INJ] Strung-up? (They should be). -NO.

Democracy?

[FGZ] Choosability? NO * laughter from audience *

A type of government?

[INJ] Party specific? NO.

A method of voting?

The House of Lords?

[FGZ] Ballot? - NO.
[Rosie] Feudalism?- NO.

Is it related to a change in government?

[GL] Selection - YES. * some applause from audience *

A coup?

[Duj] Junta? - NO. nothing so dramatic.
Hint: two words on card.

Regime Change?

Conservative government?

To do with totalitarianism?

[GL] Revolution? - NO.
[FGZ] Toryism? - NO.
[Pro] Stalin and his mates? - NO.
Hint: Remember this is largely ABSTRACT!

Is it a political term of phrase?

Dissolution of Parliament?

[FGZ] Spin? - YES! (although not always what politicians themselves want to convey)
[Rosie] End of Term? - NO.

The truth?

Campaign Promises?

A sudden shift in the structure of a hill?

[Pro] Veracity - NO (certainly virtual in the case of politicians)
[Duj] Lib-Dem revival? - NO
[FGZ] Promises, promises? - YES!
FGZ has it! I pass on the over-egged baton and may the best man win!

Thanks, Software, I dunno how to do the big letters thing, so here goes...

ANIMAL

Animal = human?

[Software] Homo Sapiens? NO

Four legs?

Quadroped? NO

Alive?

A bird?

[GL] Animate? YES
[Rosie] Ornithological? YES

A particular species?

Specific? YES Just to warn you guys that i have started travelling again, so I may not be on as often to answer questions. I'll try to get on as often as I can.

Extant?

Sorry, I don't quite follow, please rephrase.

Phraseology for Dummies

Extant (adj.) - A species which isn't extinct

Currently in existance? - YES

[FGZ*] PfD is quite correct (Thank you PfD). I might stress that I am not PfD but also that this site does include a wide variety of pedants with an equal proportion of grammarians, lexicographers, etymologists and other related types - each of which insists on proving their existence.

A bird of prey?

[GL] Predatory? - No

Found in Europe?

European? NO

A flightless bird?

North America?

Endemic to North America? NO
Flightless? YES

An ostrich?

A Penguin?

Kiwi?

[Rosie][Duj][GL] All incorrect

Emu?

[GL] Nope.

Penguin?

not a Linux fan by any chance?

Cassowary?

Kakapo?

All still incorrect so far... [Software] I take it that's not an AMVA question, and no, sadly I have never actually tried linux. I am currently windows only.

Silkie?

Any relevance to current events?

[GL] Nope [Rosie]Relevant? - no

Is it a member of the crane family?

Gruiformes.

A Chook?

Rhea?

[GL] Crane? NO
[Duj, Soft] NO
sorry guys but I've been stuck in Invercargill with no internet. Definitely not a great situation

Found primarily in Africa?

Kakapo?

Should I be trembling?

[INJ] African? No
[GL] Nope, as I told Juxtapose earlier
[Dujon] If you did, I would laugh at you

So far there have been some close guesses, but none spot on yet

A sub-species of a current guess?

[Software] Not that close

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