Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....
However, then *the audience applauds excitedly*. "Dendrobium" is indeed the first word on the card. And "Imelda Marcos"? No, but ... so very, very close. *guffaws of laughter from the audience*.
I hate to have to say this, but [INJ], your sources have deceived you - the twinflower is the province flower of one of Sweden's provinces, it's not a national flower. (Sweden doesn't have one.) It's quite pretty though :-)
Well, I've got 2 that match all the criteria (though there are probably more, since it seems to be the norm that important visitors are given a tour of the Orchid Gardens and then have the latest cultivar named after them). However, etiquette demands that someone else gets a go first....
[INJ] I don't know -- I think you asked the vast majority of the key questions in this round (identifying it as a specific named varietal, native to SE Asia, and as an orchid, for example), so I doubt if anyone would begrudge you victory. I'm surprised you found more than one, given all the audience reactions, although I haven't checked the list myself.
[CdM] I agree. I think that INJ should deliver the cut of grass and take the baton. I was persuaded by the audience reaction and your response to INJ's "Imelda Marcos" suggestion that the connection was the Phillipines.
Thank goodness that it wasn't in the 2nd half of the alphabet, or I'd have been forced to try den. Margaret Thatcher! If this is wrong then it's definitely someone else's turn
Ah, I've just realised that you could take the 'second word' question 2 ways - I was thinking about the second word of the name, not the second word on the card. If I have misapprehended, then please amend my answer as appropriate - especially as St Margaret is a 'better' answer.
Den. Margaret Thatcher it is! A delicate flower if ever there was one (and, yes, I puzzled over the meaning of "second word" too). *hands hybridized baton to INJ*
*ponders the matter of how confusing the term "second word" can be, given that one had just been informed of the correctness of the first word* The list of 1900 dendrobia did not include that one :-(
[Phil] Nothing wrong with your question, and I answered it correctly -- but I did have the same initial reaction as INJ. I think that, mentally, the first word was out of the way, and we were now concentrating on a two-word name, so it was easy to think of the second word in that delimited context.
I'm pretty much in wall-to-wall meetings today, so may not get back to this until later. So here's a few answers in advance: - NO - Partly Damn, I didn't think you'd ask that - YES
[Kim] - Carpet Fitter? - NO ;-) [Phil] - Human? - NO (anticipated as first question) [Software] - Metal? - NO (wrong question) [Kim] - Rock Island Line cargo? - NO (you were obviously put off by Software getting it wrong)
A few weeks ago, only one team out of eight in my pub quiz got the correct answer to "How many stone lions are there in Trafalgar Square?" Hidden textNone, they are made of bronze
[GIII] - zoomorphic - NO [Rosie] - Minimog? - NO *applause* [Phil] - I knew the answer to that question, therefore I refer you to my answer to Software (OK then, - NO - to save you looking)
[Phil] - In Asia? - NO *audience remains interested* BTW - as a clarification - the words on the card do begin with a 'P'. However, I would accept an answer that doesn't. Is that confusing enough?
[Iroul] - On an island? - NO Don't read too much into the audience reaction - it would be helpful to find out where this is, but that's not the only line of approach.
That was dangerously close to a lurker's victory. This next is I think best described as ANIMAL though some might make a case for ABSTRACT with ANIMAL connections.
Animal product? No (at least not in the sense that I presume you mean). Breed of animal? No. An expression? No. *some muttering and discussion in the audience, however*
A particular species? No. Human? I've been waiting for this question, yet I'm still not quite sure how to answer it. In a more narrow and literal sense, the best answer is probably No, but in a broader and/or figurative sense the answer is Yes, in some cases.
Related to intelligence? No. (There might sometimes be a connection with the figurative sense of the words on the card, but I think No is the best answer.)
Aggressive? Not aggressive as such, but still *a smattering of applause* Herd mentality? No. A swarm? No, but * applause* Migration? No, but *a little applause*
(Irouléguy) No, not the rich. (Softers) Spinner/Spinster? No, but *some audience murmurs of appreciation.* (INJ) Not pejorative, but a group, yes. (Graham III) Not the royals. *some mild audience laughter.*
A Corporation Sole is an entity in law comprising, at all times and from time to time, a single individual. It enables property to vest in the entity without having to be transferred each time the individual changes. Its helpful, for example, in ecclesiastical matters, where the property (churches, land, etc) subsisting in a particular diocese (eg, Chelmsford) vests in the Corporation Sole (eg, "The Diocesan Bishop of Chelmsford") rather than the particular individual who happens to hold that post at that moment (currently, The Rt Revd John Gladwin). Hope that helps.
(Dujon) An occupation - YES (CdM) Any collective nouns? NO. (Irouléguy) Particular country or culture? No, but certainly more prevalent in some cultures. (Softers) Written word? YES. *vigorous audience applause* (Bigsmith) Game or pastime-related. Can be, but certainly not necessarily. *some scattered hesitant applause* (Raak) Militarily related? NO.
(Softers) Could be, but not the words on the card. (irach)_ A GHOST WRITER it is. Well done, as long as it's your own words. :-). Over to you; make it easy.
Raak: - Not a free lunch for a lawyer, No. Tuj: - Not as such, No.* audience stirs * G III: - Interesting, but No. irach: - No. * audience nervous laughter * Phil: - No.
irach: - No. * audience mutters * Tuj: - No. Kim: - Yes. * a few claps from the audience * Chalky: - I didn't think there was any ambiguity. Irouléguy: - Spot on! YES. Over to you! CdM: - Close, but no cigar.
Software - Human animal? No Rosie - Is this one thing in three or more different versions? *murmurs of approval from the audience* Yes, though the versions part is a bit of a red herring. Tuj - Is it always the same size/shape? *hum of discussion in the audience* Size, no; shape - umm, sort of.
# irach] Glue or Adhesive? It can be derived from animal, vegetable or mineral. *applause* No, though glue or another adhesive could well be involved. Dujon - Would this be a carving? No CdM] Manufactured? Yes (though not necessarily machine-made) CdM] I think you're right the second time - my guess was a response to yours and Rosie's questions together, so Softers' answer worked.
Dujon] Is this an article into which an object (or objects) are inserted? Interesting guess, but no. Some of those things might have one (or more) of these, though.
Hint the second - it's not any type of undergarment.
Phil]A bandolier? Er, no Graham III - A noose? My word, no CdM - Is its primary function to attach something to some other thing (for a broad definition of thing)? *applause* Attaching - yes, sort of. Something to something else - no. CdM - Also, does it begin with P? No (though it was Tuj who gave me the idea).
Graham III] A pair of hand cuffs? No (vegetable hand-cuffs?) Raak - Or any other sort of bondage equipment? No, perfectly SFW Tuj - Is it usually part of a larger item? *applause* Yes, always irach - A Conveyer belt? No
Graham III] A dressing gown cord? No ImNotJohn] Is it elastic? No (hypothetically, I suppose it could be) CdM - When you made this thing, did you also make the larger item? *murmurs of 'Good question' from the audience* No. If you made the larger item, you would also make this (or these) in the process, but people will also make (or remake) this (or these) having bought (or otherwise acquired) the larger item.
Apologies for any false attribution - it's good advice, whoever said it.
OK – let’s try to see what we know: It is a belt but it is not worn as such and is not an item of clothing. It is a part of a larger whole, but can be made separately (a replaceable part?) It may be made of A, V or M and is always ‘sort of’ the same shape although the size can vary. If Animal this could be leather. Manufactured although not necessarily by machine. Irg has made one. It is functional rather than decorative. It has some 'sort of' connection with 'attaching' but not of one thing to another (still slightly confused by that). The answer is one word plus the indefinite article, but this could exist in the plural. It is not normally elastic (although that is not impossible). It does not normally contain or hold other things (bandolier, tool belt) It is not: a buckle or fastener (applause), garters, dog tag or leash, safety harness, seat belt, handcuffs or other bondage gear, a conveyor belt or a number of other things excluded by the things we know.
Raak] Is it a drive-belt? YES! (Specifically a fanbelt, but that's good enough).Apologies for the 'connecting one thing to another' answer, which I think was wrong now - I was trying to get at the idea of it being internal. And the answer to Dujon's tool-belts question was misleading, as I didn't read it properly. Not one of my better ones. One baton improvised from tights handed over to Raak.
By the by, the answer "Would it normally be worn by a person? Person rather than an animal, yes - but it's not 'worn' as such." rather threw me. Did you mean "NO"?
[irach] Not canine. [Rosie] Not an everyday object. Not in the sense you mean, that is. *laughter* [Tuj] Yes! It does indeed begin with a P! Is that a first?
[Raak] No, it is a seventh, though I have asked the question 59 times. People who aren't me have an improved success rate of 3 out of 12. Meanwhile Raak has asked if the word has ended in P, and CdM set the answer "the set of all words beginning with P".
[G III] Not a pet, not livestock. Associated with human contact? Well...you're thinking on the wrong lines. Hint: a frequently asked question has not yet been asked.
[Rosie] At last! The animal is himan. [CdM] The abstract connection is a metaphor. [Tuj] Not fictional. (Knowledgeable members of the audience and those who have just googled it murmur.) Not intended as fictional.
[irach, sorry I overlooked this] Not "People Power". [Kim] P is not for "power". Summary: the phrase describes a specified mineral object, an implied one, and some human activity, and the whole is also a metaphor. Not biblical, artistic, or any of the specific guesses so far. It begins with a P.