mc5 - AVMA Take 2

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AVMA Take 2

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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....

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Projoy - Single-celled organism? It could be.
Lib - Genus, species, commonname? No to all
Uncle Korky - Wouldn't even know where to begin with this one...! The answer is a very common phrase, which I think everyone will recognise (not least because of its use in other contexts).
Projoy - Is it connected with mutation? It might be.
Rosie - Is at least one of the words on the card Latin? No - all plain English

Rosie] To be properly pedantic, one of the words is a Latin word which is in everyday use in English.

Something to do with alien life?

(It's not "little green men" as all three of those words are Germanic in origin).

Projoy - Something to do with alien life? *the audience begin humming John Williams tunes* YES

Extra Terrestrial Beings?

Unidentified Flying Objects?

Projoy - Extra Terrestrial Beings? Yes, but more specifically...
Raak - Unidentified Flying Objects? No

Invaders from Mars?

(or possibly just Life on Mars, I suppose.)

*Sailors fighting in the dancehall
Oh man, look at those cavemen go*
Life on Mars it is - which I thought would be got a lot sooner. Hopefully we'll grok the next one quicker...

Huzzah! I slightly carpet-bombed my way to that one, but I was bored at work today... Had a few abstracts lately, so here's an honest-to-goodness VEGETABLE

Actually, I just thought of a better one, which is NONE OF THE ABOVE

Gravity?

[Raak] Newton/Apple? NO

Can I hold it?

Is it a feeling or sensation of sorts?

[Lib] Can you hold it? NO
[irach] A feeling/sensation? NO

[Lib] There is an extremely unhelpful, but nonetheless plausible case in which one could be said to hold this thing, but NO is by far the best answer.

Nothing?

None of the above! I'd imagined that may be argued with.

A vacuum?

Not a Hoover, Dyson, Dustette, Electrolux Lite etc.

[Tuj] Nowt? NO
[Rosie] Vacuum? NO

Is it fictional?

Not Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract?

[UK] Fictional? NO, or 'twould be abstract
[Chalky] None of those.

[Chalky] If you put a gun to my head I might call it as "mineral-esque"

Is it on this planet?

[UK] On Earth? YES

Is it a form of energy?

Light?

[UK] Form of energy? YES, pretty much
[Néa] Light? YES, to an extent *applause for both questions*

A rainbow?

"My bowe betwene you and mee/in the fyrmamente shalbe"? NO

A photon?

[UK] Photon? NOT OHP.

Electromagnetic radiation?

Lightning?

Fire?

[UK] Good guess!

[rab] Electromagnetic radiation? IT IS INVOLVED...
[UK] Lightning? NO
[Tuj] Fire? YES, altho as this has been short, I shall be a stickler and note that that is not what's written on the card.

Is it all about elementary particles?

Well, everything is, but you know what I mean.

[Rosie] Elemental, my dear boson? YES, but Tuj pretty much has his finger on the answer. At this moment it's a mere matter of near-synonymity.

Flames?

A pestilential conflagration of vapours

[UK] Close enough. The words on the card are A Flame. Hands immolatory Olympic torch to Uncle Korky

[Projoy] Thanks, my good sir!
[Tuj] Apologies - seems I was more bored at work today than you!
Why do I do this? Win just before the weekend, when I won't be online 'til I'm back in the office at 8.30 on Monday? Never mind, it'll give you all a chance to get your thinking caps on again... This one's MINERAL.

A single specific object?

I am genuinely doing this in a (temporarily paused) meeting.

Naturally occurring?

[Raak] You think that's impressive? I frequently post to MC sites in meetings, even, occasionally, bi-lateral ones.

Ok, I am now posting from a meeting in progress.

Mainly metal?

Well, I'm posting, between shovelfuls, from the footplate of a large steam engine which I can hardly stand up on. Bloody railtours.

Well, I'M not even bothering to post a question - so there :)

(Chalks) Very sensible, m'dear. We could have a discussion on the likely subject in the light of UK's previous, the Eurovsion Song contest. As it's mineral shall a start the ball rolling by suggesting an OLD HEAVY CHINA TEAPOT, which could be hurled at the box during the broadcast of this ludicrous eisteddfod.

Potty syntax - "shall a" = "I shall".

Diamond?

It's got to come up one day.

edible?

Related to salt?

Why have I guessed three times? I dunno, I just felt like it.

Well, I'm not posting this from a meeting, it being Saturday morning, but I am listening to Radio 4 while riding a unicycle and cooking breakfast for four hundred Swedish Naval officers.

It's now Sunday and I'm posting this from the Dome of St. Paul's cathedral, where I'm wearing a "Kiss Me Slow" hat and blessing nearby paupers with holy porridge.

[Projoy] Yer mad you :-) AND why are you posting so early when we've all lost an hour's sleep? Talking of lost hours, which we weren't, but I'm going to anyway ... how long can I get away with the "oops sorry I'm late waking up/for work/cooking the dinner, but my head tells me it's still a whole hour earlier"?

This is AVMA, yes? I'm still not posting a question, so there.

[Chalky] The lost hour thing doesn't last for long I'm afraid. I was a particularly happy bunny as I was on nights this time (apart from the fact that it was over my birthday, so I had to work twice on said day) but I gained the short shift when 1am magically became 2am.

Can you hold it?

I am playing this game. All alone at the moment. Anyone want to play with me?

Okay, folks - weekend's over, and can give you my full attention once more:
[Raak] Single specified object? YES, but might be misleading
[Projoy] Naturally occurring? YES
[Rosie] Mainly metal? ERM... QUITE POSSIBLY. Teapot? ERM... NO
[Lib] Diamond? NO. Edible? NO (audience is amused). Related to salt? NO.
[Projoy] There's another 'AMVA game' on this site, y'know!

Smaller than a toaster?

Erm, still wondering if you can hold it...

[Lib]

[Lib] Smaller than a toaster? NO. Manually graspable? NO.

Larger than a phone box?

Size does matter!

Bigger than St. Paul's?

Bigger than Wales?

[Lib] Larger than a phone box? YES. Size matters? Hmmph. Well, I've never had any complaints...
[Raak] Bigger than St Paul's? YES
[Lib] Bigger than Wales? YES

The Earth?

[Lib] Terra firma? NO

The planet Mercury?

[Rosie] Mercury? NO

Part of the Earth?

Bigger than the moon?

[Raak] Part of the Earth? NO
[Lib] Bigger than the moon? YES

Bigger than the Earth?

I'm going to get its size eventually!

[Lib] Bigger than the Earth? I'd have to say YES, although (and this is a big game-ending clue) this would be AS A WHOLE...

The Universe?

Erm, sorry guys. I'm revising you see. Get easily distracted from the finer points of pharmacology.

[Lib] The whole caboodle? NO

The Kuiper belt?

The galaxy?

Is it gaseous?

Does it contain more mass than the earth?

*Wanders in. Remembers last time. Beats a hasty retreat.*

The (main) asteroid belt?

(According to Wikipedia, "The total mass of the Asteroid belt is estimated to be 3.0-3.6×1021 kilograms,[4][5] which is 4% of the Earth's Moon. Of that total mass, one-third is accounted for by Ceres alone.")

The moons of Jupiter?

[Raak] Kuiper belt? TOO FAR OUT, MAN...
[Lib] The Galaxy? NO
Tuj] Gaseous? NO (although probably depends on your sense of scale!)
[Rosie] More mass than the Earth? APPARENTLY NOT! Glad I didn't have to look that one up myself!
[Irouléguy] Tie 'em down, child! NO
[Projoy] The (main) asteroid belt? We have a winner! One knobbly and rock-encrusted baton passed on!

Just passing...

Oops, overslept this morning so only just saw this. I won't be able to check in until this evening, but in the meantime have this VEGETABLE

s/check in/check in again

Broccoli?

[Lib] George H. W. Bush's least favourite food? NO

Edible?

Manufactured?

Wooden?

Unique?

Fictional?

Now extinct?

[Ig] Edible? YES
[Lib] Manufactured? NO
[Raak] Wooden? NO
[Tuj] Unique? NO
[ISP] Fictional? NO
[UK] Extinct? NO

One vegetable or made of many?

[Lib] YES, er, NO... er...

Grown in Britain?

Common?

[Raak] Grown in Blighty? NO
[Lib] Common? DEPENDS, but not common in Britain, for example.
[Lib] Further clarification on your last. I was slightly fatuously pretending not to know what you meant as it wasn't a yes/no question. There is, however, a clear answer: ONE VEGETABLE.

A piece of fruit?

Have a banana.

Begins with P?

[Lib] Fruit? YES! *applause*
[Tuj] P-headed? NO

A berry?

[Ink] I come not to praise Caesar...? NO

~~pomegranite~~
~~pear~~
~~plum~~
~~peach~~
~~persimmon~~
~~paw-paw~~
~~papaya~~
~~pomelo~~
~~passion fruit~~
durian?

WHO BROUGHT THAT DURIAN IN HERE?

Grows on a tree? (rather than a bush/on the ground etc)

Inna bunch?

Mango?

[CdM] Durian? NO
[INJ] On a tree? NO
[Ink] Bunched? NO
[Lib] Mango? NO

Equal to or larger than your average avacado?

[Lib] >= avocado's number? NO

Is it eaten with its skin rather than peeled?

Is it a berry?

Grown in Europe?

[Lib] BZZZT!

Drat! I read PJ's reply, and I didn't think that berries were bunched so I got confused, I'll try again...

Does it have a stone?

Is it a dried fruit?

Avocado's Number. I like that. :-)

I Say, Porter!

[Lib] They're not, I think the BZZZT was for repetition of 'is it a berry' half an hour after Projoy had said 'no'.

Can it be eaten raw?

[Inks] skIn? NO
[UK] EU? NO
[Rosie] Dried? NO
[Ig] Edible raw? YES (I think).

Is it usually served as/in a drink?

Have you ever eaten one (or part of)?

Dr [Inks] ? NO
[Rosie] Have I eaten one? NO

Have I ever eaten one?

[CdM] I wouldn't put it past you.

originally from Africa?

Lib's question about being stoned still awaits an answer.

A tropical fuit?

Does it stink as badly as a durian?

Is it generally considered to be a suitable foodstuff for humans?

[Lib] Got stone? NO (sorry for delay)
[INJ] Out of Africa? YES
[Inks] Tropical? I THINK SO (arguable, I think)
[Raak] My dog's got no nose? NO
[UK] Fit for human consumption? YES.

Peanuts?

[INJ] See response to Tuj.

Does its plant have thorns?

Can't help myself...

[flerdle] Does it have runic letters on it? YES, and nice to see you back here.

:-)

pequi?

Don't really know what one of those is.

Ps. Hello flerdle. Lovely to see you.

[Lib] See response to Tuj :)

Bah!

Green when ripe?

[ISP] Green when ripe? NO

Is it a nut?

[I knew I should have said 'Ground Nuts')

orange colour?

[INJ] Nut? NOT
[Lib] orange? YES!

Mandarin?

Naartjie?

(though actually that grows on a tree)

Tangerine?

That's more african, I believe.

Something Cactussy?

[Lib] ... but not quite 'Tree-NO' or 'Thorns-YES'.

Hmmmm. Indeed. *strokes chin and ponders*

[Lib] Mandolin? NO
[INJ] Naartjie? NO
[Lib] Tangerine? NO
[ISP] Cactussy? NOT REALLY.

Thy search hath borne fruit

A recap: An edible fruit, native to Africa. It is orange (when ripe), grows on a bush, which boasts thorns, and does not begin with P. It is larger than an avocado and does not contain a stone. It is not a berry, nor, as a free clue, a citrus fruit.

Larger than an avacado?

I was working on smaller than...

Does it have pips?

If it does then I'll never eat it. I've got a mild phobia of pips. They're horrid! Keep them away from me.

[Lib, re size] That would be understandable, now that I come to realise that I clearly don't know the difference between < and > ! Curses, and apologies. In addition to being definitely larger than an avocado, it is not eaten with its skin and I'm not sure if it would be described as tropical, altho I can see reasons why it might.

[Lib] Pipped to the post? YES

Does it belong to the melon family?

Size certainly matters, as I'm sure you know! But its easy to get confused. I'm particularly bad at right and left, slightly concerning when I'm at work and these things matter!

[Lib] Of the House of Melon? YES! *muchos applause*

The orange melon?

[Raak] The Orange Melon? NO

Honeydew melon?

I'd like to retract that, Can I guess...

Canteloupe?

ah, size makes all the difference. p.s. you can get orange honeydews.

Is it grown in New Zealand?

[Lib] Honeydew or Canteloupe? NO
[flerdle] Grown in NZ? YES

Horned Melon?

[Lib] Horned Melon? (or Horny Melon, as I like to call it) YES!!. And just in time for me to get on a train to Manchester and disappear for a few hours. Apologies once again for misleading you all about the size. * hands bulbous, spiky baton to Lib*

*Wonders if she'll bump into Projoy tonight when she ventures into central Manchester for a concert...*
Right. ABSTRACT, MINERAL with possibly some ANIMAL thrown in.

Second thoughts. That one was crap....

ABSTRACT, with some ANIMAL and MINERAL.

A fictional thingy?

A hip operation?

A human concept

I keep using that, saw it first here, have no idea what it means really.

[IS,P] Totally fictitious? NO. [Rosie] Hip, Hip Horray? NO. [IS,P] Humane? YES.

Hmmm, missing some breaks I think. Will be better next time!

Can you tell us what the first one was without giving a clue to the second?

:P

Can I tell you what the first one was? YES

Partially ficitious?

[Pj] Slightly made up? YES, and NO. Sorry.

Connected with emotions?

[Pj] Feeling emotional? YES.

Positive emotions, particularly?

Is the mineral water?

[Pj] Positivity? Can't answer this, sorry.
[Rosie] Dihydrogen oxide? NO

Does it begin with an E?

Does it begin with P?

[Pj] On E? NO
[Tuj] Can I have a P please Bob? NO.

Is the animal bit human?

[Irouléguy] Humane? YES!

A theory or something theoretical?

[Tuj] That's the theory. NO

Is the mineral an artefact?

A particular class of thing?

[Irouléguy] artifactual? NO
[Projoy]Classy? NO, it is a specific thing, although still abstract!

Is confused about "fictitious no, but fictional yesandno"

is it art?

Is it to do with empathy?

[ISP] I feel your pain.

Art? YES.
Empathy? NO.

Clarification. Sorry to confuse you, I've confused myself too. so...
Fictional? (ie 1. the class of literature comprising works of imaginative narration, esp. in prose form. 2. works of this class, as novels or short stories: detective fiction. 3. something feigned, invented, or imagined. 4. the act of feigning, inventing, or imagining. 5. an imaginary thing or event, postulated for the purposes of argument or explanation.) NO
Fictitious? Having looked at many definitions, NO to most but YES to "imaginatively produced or set forth".

Sorry to get in a twist, hope this helps a little. (The dictionary definitions are to help my easily overwhelmed mind, as I know you are all far more eloquent than me!)

A particular artwork? Tracy Emin's Bed?

[ISP] One in particular? YES
Dirty sheets? NO

A piece of visual art?

[Irouléguy] Seen? NO

Heard?

[Irouléguy] Noisy? YES! *much applause from audience*

Classical music

A brass band?

Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band?

Sixties pop?

[Projoy] Classical? YES
[Rosie] Shiny brass? NO
[CdM] Lonely hearts? NO
[IS,P] 60s? NO

The Anvil Chorus?

[Raak] Anvil Chorus? NO

Pre-19th century?

Written for voices (with or without instruments)?

[Raak] Pre 1800? NO
[Projoy] Choral? NO

Geman composer?

[UK] Bratwurst? NO

The Planets?

[Raak] Holst's Finest? NO.

Owt to do with Edvard Greig?

[UK] Grieg-y baby? NO.

For brass? Thinking Libery Bell

[IS,P] Shiny brass? Still NO

Bugger. Missed Rosie's post. Sorry.

Brass?
Only joking. Italian composer?

[IS,P] Pizza maker? NO.
Despite all these NOs you really are quite close. I'm here for another twenty minutes then am going to be examined, so will be back drunk later.

English?

Cool! I want one of those examinations that gets you drunk. Are you studying to be a sommelier?

[IS,P] Her Majesty's finest? NO
The getting drunk time is after the exam. I suspect that during it wouldn't go down too well.

French? Is the nationality of the composer going to help?

Gotcha. Isn't April a bit early for exams?

[IS,P] Frog's legs? YES! It may help a little, but isn't the holy grail.
Not uni exams. Postgrad medical exams. Bloody hard ones at that too. I'm taking anaesthetic exams.

Claude Achille Debussy, died nineteen eighteen?

Anaesthetic exams

Shurely all exams are anaesthetic.

[IS,P] Debussy? NO
Indeed all exams induce somnolence.

Ravel and his sodding Bolero?

[IS,P] Sodding bolero? NO. God I hate that piece. The only cool bit is the gong at the end, and its a long 20 minute wait till that features.

Dukas and his Sorcerer's Apprentice?

Dominating this simply because you've only got ten minutes. Well, that's my excuse.

[IS,P] Fansatia? NO

Well, have a good exam. I've run out of ideas.

La Cathédrale Engloutie?

[Raak] Isn't that Debussy?

Jean-Michel Jarre? Oxygene?

Tubular Bells?

[Raak] LOOL. You're taking the mickey, right? Mike Oldfield's not French.

A member of Les Six?

I'm under the infulence. Head spinning. Exam over.
NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. Can't manage more HTML than that. Sorry.

Died in C20th?

Still alive? Was it a practical exam?

Carnival of the Animals, Vegetables, Minerals and Abstracts?

[Projoy] Died 20C? YES!
[IS,P] Still alive? NO, dead. Animal carnival, very very warm.

Danse Macabre?

Erik Satie?

Saint-Saëns?

Is all Ravel out, or just Bolero? Might I suggest Ravel's "N'allez pas au bois d'Ormonde"?

Sorry for my absence. I had to go to work twice which was quite a shock to the system. You're all exceedingly warm, and I hope someone gets it in the next hour as I'm off to Wales for Easter. Anyway, enough chat, onto the matter in hand...
[Projoy] deatly dancing? NO
[Irouléguy] Eric the hungry catapiller NO.
[gil] The fantastic Camille Saint-Saëns? YES!!! But there's something else on the card.... Think BIG!
[StormWraith] Revels, anyone? Ravel is totally out.

Third Symphony, with its big throbbing organ?

[Projoy] Big organ goodness? YES!!! The exact words on the card are far more polite, briefly stating Saint-Saëns' Third symphony ("organ concerto"). Well done. *hands an organ pipe shaped baton back to Projoy*

Phew. Well, I don't expect this to take off as everyone's going to be disappearing off for the long weekend, but here's a VEGETABLE.

Is it alive?

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