mc5 - AVMA Take 2

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AVMA Take 2

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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....

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[rab] Part of a recipe or on its own? Good question - it is widely known as something that is part of a recipe [although I dare say one could eat it on its own]
[Rosie] Normally cooked? Another good question :-) No - not cooked as such.

Is it a type of dried fruit?

[Raak] A type of dried fruit? Noooo ... but keep going in that direction

Is it a fruit converted into a liquid form?

Would it be good in a cake?

Not necessarily going to help the guessing, but I need to know!

Raisin?

[Raak] Converted into liquid form? Yes it is! [to be clear - it doesn't have to be but is better known once it has been converted]
[Lib] Good in a cake? Doubtful but not a definite No :-)
[irach] Raisin? No

timetable

Can answer any more questions after 10.30 pm, so keep 'em coming

Grape?

Juniper

Tonights discoevery is that raspberry gin is a very good thing....

Is it red?

Is it green?

[irach[ Grape? YES! Now .... which one?
[Lib} Juniper? No ... I agree ... raspberry gin is indeed a fine thing
[Irouléguy] Red? Yes
[Inks] Green? nah

Italian red grape?

Pomegranate?

[Inks] Italian? Not known as such
[Phil] Pomegranate? No

Pinot noir?

Grenache?

Wait -- you said it was widely known (not that Grenache is that obscure, but still). How about
Syrah/Shiraz?

Chardonnay?

Merlot?

Cabernet sauvignon?

Zinfandel?

Now that I've noticed it's a grape :)

Muscat (variously spelled)?

[irach] Pinot noir? No
[CdM] Grenache? No
[CdM] Syrah/Shiraz? No
[Widely known/Obscure? I think I meant widely known for being a grape that is used for wine production rather than just eating :-)]
[rab] Chardonnay? No
[Inkspot] Merlot? No
[Irouléguy] Cab Sauv? No
[Phil] Zinfandel? No
[Raak] Moscato/Moscatell/Moscatel/Muscat? No

Gamay?

Irouléguy has it! The GAMAY grape is the answer. Here - have a glass - CHEERS :-)

Don't mind if I do - it is Friday. Cheers, Chalky! OK, our next is ABSTRACT and MINERAL with ANIMAL connections.

the salf of the earth?

That is, the salt of the earth?

A geographical feature?

To do with language?

Raak - The salt of the earth? No
Rosie - A geographical feature? Um...yes, in one sense
Projoy - To do with language? No

Is it a figurative expression?

Raak] Is it a figurative expression? Not a lot

An historical monument?

Is is a statue of someone?

Is it a sculpture?

Is it a piece of writing?

Kryptonite?

Man In The Moon?

Inkspot] An historical monument? *applause* No, but...
Kim] Is is a statue of someone? *more applause* No, but...
Projoy] Is it a sculpture? I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answers.
rab] Is it a piece of writing? No
Raak] Kryptonite? No
irach] Man In The Moon? No

The Angel of the North?

Is it fictional/legendary?

Rosie] The Angel of the North? No
rab] Is it fictional/legendary? No

Is it artwork?

Is it a physical structure named for someone?

Is it the headquarters of some organisation?

Is it visible to the human eye?

Lib] Is it artwork? No
Raak] Is it a physical structure named for someone? Yeah, but yeah, but no (imagine it as three separate questions)
Rosie] Is it the headquarters of some organisation? No
rab] Is it visible to the human eye? Yes

An Olympic Torch?

rab] An Olympic Torch? No, but the Olympic torch has been there.

Is it manmade?

Mt Olympus?

Lib - Is it manmade? Yes
Projoy - Mt Olympus? No

Is it larger than a standard four bedroom detached house?

Or there abouts!

Lib] Is it larger than a standard four bedroom detached house? Yes

Is it ancient?

Rosie - Is it ancient? No

Is it in Europe?

Is it a building, i.e. a structure with storeys and rooms?

Is it unique?

We seem to be honing in on something very concrete, yet this thing is supposed to be ABSTRACT. I'm confused.

Is it a popular tourist attraction in the place where it is located?

Inkspot - Is it in Europe? Yes
Raak - Is it a building, i.e. a structure with storeys and rooms? No
CdM - Is it unique? Yes
I probably should have clued this as MINERAL and ABSTRACT - apologies for any confusions. It's another of those borderline ones, where it all depends on what you mean by 'abstract'. I do think there is an abstractness to it, though - it's a location, which i wouldn't describe as 'something very concrete'.
Kim - Is it a popular tourist attraction in the place where it is located? *ringing applause* YES!

Does a name appear on the card? (e.g., Anne Hathaway's standard four bedroom detached house)

[I] It doesn't sound like any apology is necessary; you did clue it as both mineral and abstract. Being confused is quite a normal state for me.

In the UK?

A sport venue?

Is it a piece of civil engineering?

CdM - Does a name appear on the card? A name, yes
CdM] I meant the order really. I read ABSTRACT and MINERAL as mostly abstract and a bit mineral, whereas it's more helpful to think of it as the other way round.
ImNotJohn - In the UK? Yes
Inkspot - A sport venue? No
Rosie - Is it a piece of civil engineering? Yes (according to the Wikipedia definition of CE).

Is it in London?

The London Eye?

rab] Is it in London? *applause* A capital answer
Inkspot - The London Eye? No

Trafalgar Square?

Cleopatra's Needle?

A bridge?

We have a winner - it's Trafalgar Square! A pigeon is winging its way to INJ with the baton.

somewhat shamefacedly

Nearly a lurker's victory - still I'll take it.

The next is ABSTRACT with ANIMAL connections

Animal = human?

A work of fiction?

An action?

[CdM] Human - Not necessarily, but YES is most helpful
[Irg] fiction - NO
[Inks] Action - NO

A figurative expression?

[Raak] A figurative expression? - NO

A character of myth or legend?

[Kim] Legendary character - NO

An emotion?

[Inkspot] emotion - NO

A symbol?

[Raak] symbol - NO

An action?

Is language involved?

A rite of passage?

[Rosie] Action - I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answer
[Raak] Is language involved? - NO
[Inks] rite of passage - NO

A social connection?

re previous question - should've been in bed. Sorry.

Anarcho-syndicalism?

[Rosie] A social connection? - NO (in fact rather the reverse)
[CdM] Anarcho-syndicalism? - one day.... but not today

Connected with philosophy?

[CdM] Connected with philosophy - I'm sure you could find a philosopher who would say so, but my answer is NO

Is it a human invention/construct?

[Iroul] Human construct - NO (not this time)

Do I get some sort of prize for having the only question so far that has been answered with something other than 'NO'?

Is it something that applies to most humans?

A scientific law?

Could the animal be a cow?

[CdM] - NO
[Rosie] - Applies to most humans - YES
[Raak] scientific law - NO
[Inks] Could the animal be a cow - NO (Actually, I don't know - I would assume not. In any case it wouldn't help you to guess if the answer were yes.)

Is this an absence of something?

[Iroul] an - NO

To do with the mind?

[Raak] To do with the mind - NO

Solitude?

Is this a medical condition?

An undesirable characteristic?

[Raak] solitude - NO
[Chalky a medical condition - YES (applause)
[Rosie] An undesirable characteristic - 1)YES, 2)NO

Is it a subjective characteristic?

[PJ] subjective - NO

Do the symptoms of this condition manifest themselves externally?

[Chalky] external symptoms - YES

Are men and women equally likely to have this condition?

[Iroul] men & women equally - YES

A neurological syndrome named after a person?

[Irach] neurological syndrome named after a person? - NO and NO

Is it caused by an external pathogen, e.g. virus or bacterium

Is it a common complaint?

[irach] caused by an external pathogen - YES
[Kim] common complaint - YES (applause)

A cold?

I wonder why I thought of that one.

And The Common Cold it is. (or cobbod code, as I would have said 3 days ago) -
Over to Rab

I feel we've had too many abstracts, but the only things I can think of right now are ABSTRACT. So there we go.

(I've chosen only one of them!)

Abstraction?

Nope.

Further reading suggests a possible mineral component.

A stony silence?

Human construct?

[Rosie] No.
[CdM] I don't believe so (the existence of humans is not - as far as I know - conditional on its existence)

A physical phenomenon?

Yes

Could life exist without it?

I expect so.

An astronomical phenomenon?

Possibly, but I would suspect only indirectly.

The tides?

The aurora borealis?

[Rosie] It would be more than a suspicion if it were the tides!

[Irouléguy] No.

An astrological phenomenon?

To do with the weather?

[Raak] No.

[Inkspot] YES!

Is it a wind?

To do with global warming?

The atmosphere?

[Inkspot] Wind is involved.

[Raak] Maybe, not sure.

[irach] "The atmosphere" are not the words that appear on the card.

The ozone hole?

Le mistral?

Jet stream?

[Raak] No.

[Irouléguy] No.

[irach] No.

Does it involve high winds?

Tornado?

[Raak] Yes.

[irach] No.

A hurricane?

Cyclone/

[Raak] No.
[irach] No\

Is the possible mineral component water?

Yes.

A perfect storm?

"The Tempest"?

El Nino?

A storm surge?

It seems that the thing I've chosen is not particularly well-defined but I believe that my answers are consistent with most people's understanding of what this us.

[Raak, irach, CdM, Rosie] No.

s/us/is

Is this associated with a particular part of the world?

Does it at ground level?

Is the abstractness anything to do with literature?

[Irouléguy] Yes. *applause*
[Inkspot] Does it what at ground level?
[Raak] No - not a human creation.

The global conveyer

(it is associated with a particular part of the world, albeit a very large part)

Is it seasonal?

[rab]That's what happens from simulposting the same thing then trying to think of something else, all before the first cup of tea of the morning.

Is it in the northern hemisphere?

El Niño?

The monsoon?

[Raak] Certainly associated with the northern hemisphere, but not sure if it's confined to it.

[Rosie] I wouldn't be that pedantic (see CdM's last guess).

[Ir] Nope.

The doldrums?

Is it a specific named wind like the monsoon?

Trade Winds?

Trans-Atlantic Drift?

Low Bailey 986 expected South Utsire 971 by this time tomorrow?

Is the wind associated with this phenomenon always from a particular direction, more or less?

(rab) Sorry, didn't see CdM's El Nino. I'm sure he pronounced it right, though.

[Inkspot] Not the doldrums.
[Irouléguy] The least misleading answer is probably 'no'. I'll elucidate further later if need be.
[irach] Not trade winds.
[Chalky] Nor a Trans-Atlantic Drift, although one or two audience members have woken up.
[Rosie] Low Bailey... 'fraid not.
[Rosie] Again not sure, but with 95% certainty I would say YES!

(that last to Rosie's direction question, and a different one-or-two audience members are starting to look agitated)

Does the answer on the card contain a geographical reference?

[Rab] You didn't answer a couple of earlier questions - 'Is it seasonal?' and 'The global conveyor?'

[ImNotJohn] YES! *applause*
Whoops - seasonal yeah, global conveyor no.

The Azores High?

Nope.

Equinoctial gales?

The Gulf Stream?

[Rosie, Raak] No.

Is it a hot desert wind of North Africa?

[irach] *Considerable peals of laughter, hooting, rolling about and slapping of thighs from the audience* No.

Okay, then. Is it an Arctic Express wind blast?t

That's good enough for me - it was Arctic Blast that was on the card.

This one is ANIMAL and VEGETABLE with a dash of MINERAL as well.

A tequila shot?

[Raak] After the day I've had, I wish it was a tequila shot. But 'no" is the answer to your "shot in the dark".

Is it something you eat or drink?

Is it larger than a washing machine? (an average sized british one).

[Iroleguy] Yes.

[Lib] No.

Is it a sandwich?

Smoky bacon crsisps?

Does fluid account for more than 50% of its volume?

[Kim] Not generally a "sandwich", although in one incarnation it may be so.
[Raak] Yummy!! But no.
[rab] This one is a little tricky... It is made up mostly of fluids, but it shouldn't be fluid when bought, or presented for consumption

Is rab's question easier to answer if you leave it at room temperature for a while?

[CdM] It cerainly is, in the affirmative.

Is Ice Cream involved?

[rab] Yes! "Ice cream" are the exact words on the card. (although at minus 17 degrees Celsius room tempaerature, and a minus 30 degree windchill here in suburban Boston, I'm not sure I want any just now. Over to you.

Whoops

Sorry, it's me again. MINERAL

Man-made?

Metallic?

[Rosie] No.

[irach] No.

A geographical feature?

Liquid?

Is there just one of these?

[Rosie] No.
[Raak] No.
[Irouléguy] It describes a class of things.

Is the mineral rock?

A geological term?

[irach] No.
[Rosie] No.

plastic?

Terrestrial?

IINJ] No.
[irach] No.

Sea salt?

Metal?

Is this found in the atmosphere?

Asteroids?

[irach] No.
[Raak] No.
[Chalky] Possibly (and that goes for terrestrial too, actually).
[Rosie] No.

A gas?

[Rosie] More gassy than anything else I would have thought.

To do with volcanoes?

A "greenhouse" gas?

A plasma, e.g. on the sun?

[Raak] No
[irach] No
[Rosie] No - but getting warmer (and not because you mentioned the sun).

Cosmic rays>

The solar wind?

Still mentioning the sun. :-)

Aurora borealis?

[Raak] I don't think cosmic rays are completely disconnected from what's written on the card.
[Rosie] Nope.
[irach] No.

Is it found in interstellar space?

[Raak] I believe so.

Is it found within our solar system?

Hydrogen?

[Inkspot] It might be.
[Rosie] No.

Is it made of subatomic particles (not assembled into nuclei)?

A particular element?

[Raak] Probably, yes.
[Irouléguy] No.

Dark matter?

If that isn't the answer, it should be.

YES! - Dark Matter it is.

Coo - I got a science one. OK, our next is quite different - ANIMAL and VEGETABLE (and ABSTRACT insofaras the answer's a concept, rather than a straighforward description).

Edible?

Raak] Edible? Yes

Meat and potatoes?

A particular dish?

A vegetarian diet?

Associated with a particular geographic area?

A Stew?

Raak] Meat and potatoes? Both could be included
Darren - A particular dish? Ye..es
Rosie - A vegetarian diet? *laughter rings round the audience* No
ImNotJohn - Associated with a particular geographic area? *applause* YES
irach - A Stew? No

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