mc5 - AVMA Take 2

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AVMA Take 2

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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....

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Isle of Man Ferry?

Lib - Hong Kong Star Ferry? No
CdM - Isle of Man Ferry? No, but the geographically closest so far.

Ferry to/from a Scottish Isle?

Projoy - Ferry to/from a Scottish Isle? No, and no closer.

Does it sail from Liverpool?

Isle of Wight Ferry?

Holyhead- Dublin sea ferry?

Pembroke to Rosslare ferry

rab - Does it sail from Liverpool? No
Lib - Holyhead- Dublin sea ferry? No
Inkspot - Pembroke to Rosslare ferry No

When I said CdM was 'closest', that was strictly comparative. 'Least distant' would have been more helpful. Lib is now the least distant.

Is at least one end of the journey in the UK?

Is at least one end on the North American continent?

Does it sail between two different countries?

Is it operated by a pulley system?

The Staten Island Ferry?

CdM goes overnight from 'least distant' to bullseye - the Staten Island Ferry it is! One Staten baton handed over.

ANIMAL, VEGETABLE, and MINERAL

Is the animal human?

Human? No.

Is the vegetable a liquid?

Is it edible?

Is there a seasonal connection?

Vegetable = liquid? Least misleading answer is yes, I think.
Edible? Yes. *ripple of applause*
Seasonal connection? None that I am aware of.

Some sort of soup?

Soup? No.

Is it associated with a particular country?

A specific meal?

Some form of alcohol?

Associated with a particular country? Yes *applause*
A meal? No. *a sprinkling of laughter*
Some form of alcohol? Yes, the vegetable component is some form of alcohol. *applause* (I was probably overthinking earlier when I said liquid was "least misleading"; I should have just said yes. But it doesn't seem to have slowed you up.)

Is the mineral salt?

Salt? No.

Is it a drink?

Is the mineral water?

Two pints of lager and a packet of pork scratchings?

A drink? The words on the card do not define a drink as such. The alcohol is intented to be drunk, however.
Mineral = water? While there may be some water mixed in the alcohol, the primary mineral component is not water.
Two pints of lager and a packet of pork scratchings? How can I put this? No.

Is the animal a fish?

Is the animal connection a by product like cheese?

A loaf of bread, a jug of wine, and thou?

Animal = fish? No.
Animal = By-product? No.
Wonderloaf, Mateus Rosé and him? No, but a nice guess.

Is the alcoholic part served separately to the edible component?

Alcohol and edible component served separately? No. *some applause*

Is the mineral part the container in which it is served?

Is it some kind of stew?

Is the animal a bird?

Mineral part = container? Yes. *applause*
Some kind of stew? No.
Animal = bird? No.
Clarification: my answer to "drink?" might have been unintentionally misleading. The answer is not exactly a drink, but it is not incorrect to think in terms of things that are. If you see what I mean. It always amazes me how hard it can sometimes be to answer even the simplest questions in this game.

Is it a canned item?

Is the alcoholic part a spirit?

Canned item? No.
Spirit? Yes.

Irish coffee?

Is it always the same spirit? (And if so, is it vodka?)

*wonders what kind of animal Raak takes in his coffee*

Is the animal component milk or milk-based?

Is the vegetable a fruit?

Always the same spirit? Yes.
Vodka? No.
Animal = milk? No.
Vegetable = fruit? No.

Is the spirit brandy?

Brandy? No.

Mezcal (the Mexican spirit with a worm in the bottle)?

And a massive leap to victory by Raak. The words on the card were "A bottle of Mezcal containing a worm", but I had previously decided that I would award victory as long as the words "mezcal", "bottle", and "worm" all appeared.
*hands a small, wriggling, inebriated baton to Raak*

Apparently the worm in the bottle was invented in 1950 by one Jacobo Lozano Paez as a marketing ploy for stupid gringo tourists.

The next is MINERAL and ABSTRACT.

Glass houses pierced by stones?

[Projoy] No, but you have the right general idea.

Is it a saying?

[rab] A saying? No.

(The general idea is a bit more general than that.)

Is the mineral rock?

[Rosie] Not rock.

Is the mineral in its natural state?

[Rosie] The mineral is not in its natural state.

Is it always made of the same material?

[rab] Yes, always the same material.

Begins with P?

...to try to give Rosie a hand, however small.

Plastic?

Is the object larger (in any dimension) than a dustbin?

more than one mineral?

[Tuj] Does not begin with a P.
[rab] Not plastic.
[Rosie] Not larger than a dustbin.
[Lib] Not more than one mineral.

Glass?

[rab] Yes! Glass.

Glass Menagerie?

[irach] Not a menagerie.

A cut-glass accent?

Like wot I 'ave.

[Rosie] Not ay cut-glahss eksent.

Is it half-full?

Is the glass a mirror?

[rab] Not half-full (nor half-empty, nor over-engineered for the purpose).
[irach] Not a mirror.

Is the glass component a container?

[irach] Yes, a container.

Is the container a bottle (with or without a genie)?

Is the contents important?

[irach] (applause!) It's a bottle. No genie.
[rab] The contents are not important.

I'll be in London all day tomorrow, doing the rounds of as many museums and art galleries as I can fit in, so you have a day to think about this abstract glass bottle.

A Klein bottle?

[Projoy] Surprisingly, not a Klein bottle.

Is it associated with a myth, legend or piece of history?

Losing one's bottle?

Hitting the bottle?

[rab] Not mythical, legendary, or historical.
[Irouléguy] Not losing it.
[irach] Not hitting it.

Is anything being done to it?

[rab] Nothing is being done to it.

Is the actual word "bottle" on the card?

[irach] (excited murmuring from the audience) Strictly speaking, no.

Is it bottled-up anger?

[rab] Not bottled-up anger.

A hint

There are two words on the card, including the indefinite article.

A jeroboam?

[Rosie] Not a jeroboam.

A decanter?

A gottle? (of the kind that generally contains geer)

[irach] Not a decanter.
[Projoy] Not a gottle.

Another hint

The Mineral meaning is less well-known than the Abstract meaning.

A fiasco?

[Rosie] Yes, a fiasco, and well done for avoiding one.

(Raak) Too kind; you haven't seen my Christmas arrangements.

Right, here we go with a fairly simple one that's ABSTRACT with MINERAL connections.

Is the mineral a metal?

Does it have religious connections?

Is it fictional?

irach - Not a metal
Inkspot - No religious connection
Irouléguy - Not fictional

Does it describe an emotional state?

irach - Nothing to do with the emotions.

related to music?

Ooh, sorry I forgot to get dressed up in my disguise above! How rude of me! *blushes*

(Lib) - Nothing to do with music.

Is the mineral liquid?

>Is the mineral ice?

Irouléguy - Yes, the mineral is liquid.
irach - Not ice. See above. :-)

Anything to do with the weather?

Is the liquid mineral potable (non life-threatening if imbibed)?

Is it flammable?

Coloured?

Does it f l o w?

Raak - Weather? Certainly is *applause*
irach - Potable? Very much so
Inkspot - Flammable? No. Laughter from audience
Lib - Coloured? Yes *whooping and shrieking from the rather plebby lot we've got in tonight*
Rab - Does it flow? - Course it flows, 's a bleed'n' liquid innit? Man of your calibre; I dunno.

Purple Rain?

irach - Not purple rain.

(tutti) Don't forget it's fundamentally abstract.

Some other colour of rain?

Somewhere Over the Rainbow?

Raak - Not rain of any colour
irach - Erm, I'm afraid not. *huge but rapidly-stifled audience eruption *

Non-alcoholic liquid, one assumes?

Projoy - T-t-t-totally correct, but you're moving in the wrong direction.

A pot of gold at the end of the rainbow?

Just a rainbow?

[Rosie] Sorry - was drunk last night.

Raak - Not the pot of gold, but . . . .

The rainbow itself. So the winner is the extraordinarily sober rab! Well done.

Eek!

Right, well I probably won't have 'net access after 9am tomorrow, so let's go for a really easy ANIMAL (with possible ABSTRACT tendancies).

a Gnu?

Not a Gnu.

A specific individual?

[Raak] Yes!

Fictional?

[irach] As the Germans say, jein.

Human?

Yes.

Is he/she dead, or as the Germans ask: Ist er/sie tot?

Errr..., jein. You have only a few hours left. If no one gets it, someone else can take over with what they think it is...

Male?

Yes!

Santa?

I said it was easy.

Ok, another easy one, to make sure it gets solved before Christmas.

ABSTRACT.

The First Noel?

[irach] Not the First Noel.

Xmas-related?

[Projoy] Coincidentally Xmas-related.

Related to religion?

A greeting?

[Projoy] Some relate it to their religion.
[Inkspot] Not a greeting.

Winter solstice?

Bingo!

[irach] The very words on the card.

Here we go again- This one is ANIMAL

Dickens?

[Rosie] Good try, but no. (Bah! Humbug!) ...the audience at least stirs slightly

Reindeer?

Human?

[lib] Nort reindeer.
[Tuj] Yes, human.

Christmas-related?

[Tuj] No Christmas connection.

A European?

A male?

In the news recently?

[Inkspot] European, yes.
[Projoy] Yes, male.
[Rosie] No, not that I know of.

Alive?

[Inkspot] Dead.

Was he born before 1900?

[Inkspot] Yes, born prior to 1900.

Involved in any of the creative arts?

[Rosie} Yes.

Born prior to 1700?

[Projoy] Yes, born prior to 1700.

In the Music Field?

[StormWraith] Not Music.

Is he in a visual art?

[StormWraith] Not a visual art per se.

Was he a Greek?

[Inkspot] Not Greek.

British?

[Lib] Jolly good, I say! Yes, British. (the audience stirs and begins humming "Rule Brittania")

A writer

I mean "A writer?"

Born prior to 1500?

[Rosie] Yes, a writer.
[Projoy] Born after 1500.

A playwright?

[Rosie] Yes, he wrote plays.

Shakespeare?

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[Projoy] YES, the Bard of Avon it is. Over to you.

OK, here's a MINERAL/ABSTRACT.

Anything to do with the present season?

Stone?

[Raak] To do with the present season? NO
[Inkspot] Stone? YES

Stonehenge?

Is this two meanings for the same word, one mineral, one abstract?

[irach] Stonehenge? NO
[Rosie] Two meanings? YES, but then again NO. Not sure which is the most helpful answer, really.

Is it the rock of ages?

[Kim] Aged Rock? NOPE

Connected with a geographical feature?

[Rosie] Not connected with a geographical feature.

Does it have religious significance?

[Inkspot] religious significance? NO (a couple of mutters from the audience, but basically they agree)

The Stone of Scone?

[Raak] Symbol of temporal power in Scotland? NO.

Is it unique?

[Inkspot] Unique? NO is the best answer.

An artistic depitction?

[Rosie] Artistiction? NO

Does it feature in a legend?

[rab] Features in a legend? Strictly, NO, although a small change to your question would yield a YES.

Is there a specific, finite number of them?

Does it appear in mythology?

[Raak] A specific, finite number of them? NO
[Inkspot] Appears in mythology? I'm reasonably sure that's a NO, altho my research wasn't exhaustive.

It depends a bit on your definition of "mythology" and "legend", come to think of it. Probably best to regard NO as the most helpful answer in those cases, but you're approaching the right sort of area.

Some kind of fictional story?

[rab] (pretending to mishear the question) Fictional? YES!

Is the type of mineral any more specific than "stone"?

[rab] More specific than stone? NO

Does it have origins in a particular culture?

A heart of stone?

[Inkspot] Originates in a particular culture? NOT SURE. Sources are a bit unclear on this point.
[Raak] Heart of stone? NO.

It's not . . . . dilithium crystals, is it?

[Rosie] NO, IT'S NOT

[Rosie] Actually there is a very, very, very obscure connection to a particular variety of dilithium.

Then again, I am slightly drunk.

Is it fictional?

Is its signifance connected to a specific individual (possibly fictional)?

Is there a connection to an event?

sober now...

[Raak] Fictional? YES (see answer to rab's "misheard" question above)
[rab] SORT OF. Its significance isn't dependent on a specific individual, but there are specific individuals associated with it.
[Inkspot] Connected to a particular event? NO, NOT REALLY (except in a pretty trivial sense).

Could you name those specific individuals? And would you be able to get them all into the 'Stance' box?

(I don't actually want you to do this, merely know if it's possible...)

[rab] Could I name those individuals? YES, although it would be subjective as there's certainly no canonical list of them. Would they all fit into the "stance" box? I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT SO for most people's lists. An academic in the right field might be able to overflow the stance box, but most reasonably erudite people would probably name four or so names.

Are the people fictional as well?

[Inkspot] Are the people fictional? NO, by and large.

Are these precious stones?

Is the word "stone" on the card?

Do the stones go back to the time of the Greeks and Romans?

Arthurian connection?

The alchemists' stone?

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[Raak] Precious stones? NO *sustained applause from the audience*
[CdM] The word "stone" IS on the card *mounting excitement from audience*
[Inkspot] Back to Greek and Roman times? YES
[rab] Arthurian connection? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF
[CdM] Alchemists' stone? YES. The words on the card were "Philosopher's Stone", and I have to say I'm very upset that Tuj never popped up with his normal question! I got in a bit of a tizzy over the legend/myth questions. To my knowledge, the philosopher's stone doesn't appear in a particular myth or legend or in what is conventionally called mythology (i.e. of the Greek and Roman variety), but one could call it a mythical or legendary object, so a hard one to answer helpfully. * transmutes baton into finest gold and hands to CdM*

All right, here we go again

ABSTRACT

Global Warming?

Not getting warmer at all

Global Warming? No.

Visible?

Human construct?

Fictional?

Visible? Yes.
Human Construct? Yes.
Fictional? No, although there are a few connections to works of fiction.

Something used as a symbol?

A slightly tricky one

Symbol? I think the most helpful answer is no.

Smoke?

Mirrors?

An action?

An emotion?

Does it involve all mankind, or a select few?

Coming up empty

Smoke? No. (Abstract?)
Mirrors? No. (Abstract?)
An action? No.
An emotion? No.
Does it involve all mankind? I'm not sure that it makes much sense to talk of this "involving people", but if you insist on an answer, I would say that it does not involve all mankind.

A metaphor?

Really not getting very far

Metaphor? No.

Is it ever used as a means of communication?

OK, now we're getting somewhere

Used as means of communication? While that is not its primary use, it can be used as a means of communication in certain circumstances.

An art form?

Speaking too soon...

An art form? No.

Is the "primary use" an invention?

Too, too soon

Invention? It is a human construct that was invented, but you wouldn't normally call it an invention.

Is any technology necessarily involved?

Is it a process?

[CdM] Not sure I care for your patronising tone.

Sorry - that was a bit harsh as usual. I read your last comment as "Of course a human construct is a human invention you idiot" but re-reading it I suspect my first reading was incorrect. Unfortunately, I can't work out what your last comment does mean...

I apologise unreservedly

Technology involved? Not really, except for a very broad definition of technology.
Process? No.

[rab] Wow, sorry -- I assure you that wasn't meant to be in the slightest bit patronising. My pedantic answer simply reflected the confusion I often feel when answering seemingly simple questions in this game. "Invention" conjures up to my mind steam engines, spinning jennies, COBOL, and the like -- and it would be odd to describe the subject on the card as an invention in that sense. On the other hand somebody did presumably invent this thing, so it would be misleading to say no as well.

S'ok - I did over-react. Likewise I find a problem in this game is in asking questions that don't completely give away the thing(s) you think they might be.

Does it exist?

'Course it does, idiot

Does it exist? Yes.

Not a ghost, then.

Is it electromagnetic radiation?

Did it exist 100 years ago?

Electromagnetic radiation? No. (This thing is abstract, but it does typically have a physical manifestation, so you can add "with ANIMAL, VEGETABLE AND/OR MINERAL connections" to the description, if you like.)
Did it exist 100 years ago? Yes.

Does it involve words?

Does it involve words? Yes. *prolonged applause from audience*

Rap?

(You said it wasn't an art form)

Are these words in spoken form?

Poetry?

Music and words?

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