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AVMA Take 2

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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....

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Does this person have a particular connection to you?

Is it smaller than an egg cup?

Are you the person who is attached to this body part?

[Ink] Above collar bone - NO
[Raak] visible - NO
[INJ] Could it be removed without permanent harm - depends a bit on your definition of harm, but essentially YES
[Ig] A connection to me? YES
[Chalky] Smaller than an egg cup - NO
[Chalky again] Am I attached? YES *applause*

Your spleen?

[Raak] My spleen - NO *collective intake of breath

Your tonsils?

[Ig] Tonsils - NO (as a matter of fact, I parted company with those some 26 years ago).

Is the answer an idiomatic phrase?

Gallbladder?

[Rosie] Not idiomatic
[irach] Projoy's Gallbladder - YES! - I was originally going to just go with "the human gallbladder" but quickly realised that in terms of specific/generic questions that was going to be more trouble that it's worth. *hands the baton to irach*

Here we go again.... The next one is simply ANIMAL.

Human?

[Quendalon] Human? Yes.

Alive?

[Chalky] No, not alive. Dead as a doornail.

Male?

[INJ] Male? Yes.

Born in the last 500 years?

[Raak] No, born earlier than 500 year ago.

European?

[Inkspot] Yes, European.

Regal?

[Projoy] Surely "Projoy's gallbladder" begin's with a P? And it can't be "my gallbladder" as you said there was no pronoun on the card...

[Tuj]. Yes. Certainly of regal stature.

Charlemagne?

A royal?

[Tuj] I was using my real name on the card :P

British?

Was he ugly?

[Quendalon] Not Charlemagne.
[Irouleguy] Not a royal.
[Darren] No, not British.
[Chalky] Ugly? Not that I know of, or in historical depictions. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, anyway.

Nostradamus?

Begins with P?

[Projoy] :D perfect answer

...unless you're bluffing...

Middle Eastern?

[Chalky] Not Nostradamus.
[Tuj] No "P" beginnings.
[Rosie] Not Middle Eastern.

An author?

Famous for an invention/discovery?

born before 1000CE?

An artist?

[Raak] Not an author.
[Tuj} Not famous for an invention or discovery
[INJ] Born before 1000 CE? Yes.
[Inkspot] Not an artist.

A north european?

A religious leader?

[Inkspot] Not Northern European.
[Chalky] Not a religious leader.

Was he born after 43 AD?

Julius Caesar?

[Inkspot] No, born before 43AD.
[Rosie] Et tu, Rosie? You are correct!!! YES!!! Julius Caesar it is!

Heavens to Murgatroyd, I've won! *Lies down for a few minutes*

That's better. This is ABSTRACT with ANIMAL connections. Only very tangentially associated with steam engines, and then only a few types. Hope that narrows the field a bit.

Is the animal connection a bird?

Bravo.

Phoenix rising from the ashes?

Is the animal connection human?

(Tuj) - No bird connection
irach - Imaginative, but wrong, alas
(Projoy) Can be a human connection, but certainly not necessarily.

Perhaps we should forget about the very tangential association with the iron horse, which is not helpful, and which I'll explain at the end.

Connected with the arts?

(Quendalon) - Most definitely not connected with the arts.

An invention?

(Raak) - Not an invention.

Connected with mathematics?

(Projoy) - No connection with mathematics.

A human invention?

(Tuj) Not any kind of invention. See Raak's question.

A process?

A group of animals?

(Quendalon) - Not really, but a process, in the broad sense, is involved.
(Irouléguy) - Not a group of animals.

Connected with movement?

Begins with P?

[Rosie] Sorry for wasting your time with that. I'll learn to read.

(Quendalon) - Not connected with movement. *audience bursts into laughter*

Something to do with death?

Sleep?

(Raak) - Nothing to do with death.
(Quendalon) - Not sleep.

Is this fictional?

(Irg) - Not fictional.

A turn of phrase?

Was my last qeustion so predictable as to be ignored?

Is the animal connected to a particular part of tthe world?

(Tuj) Sorry - all I saw was your apology, now it's my turn. Does not begin with P.
(Inkspot) - No regional connection.

(Tuj) - Not a turn of phrase.

A human construct?

Is the animal connection a human?

[Rosie] I think I should stop bothering you - I'm jst confusing you and the answer to my question's always no :P

(CdM) - No, not a human construct.
(Tuj) - This question, too, was asked early on by Projoy.

Connected with biology?

(Quendalon) - Yes, biology is involved.

Is the non-human animal a particular animal?

Connected with the absence of movement?

(Irg) - No, not a particular animal.
(Raak) - Yes, connected with absence of movement. *applause, and some smiles, from the audience*

An action taken by an animal?

Dreams?

Does the animal connection refer to a specific attribute or behaviour of the animal?

(Qunedalon) - No, not an action.
(Raak) - Not dreams.
(irach) - No, not an attitude or behaviour on the part of the animal.

Connected with food?

(Quendalon) - Connected with food? Yes.

A pig that wants to be eaten?

A diet?

Ruminating?

Bringing home the bacon?

(Quendalon) - Not a diet.
(Irg) - Not ruminating, but the closest yet.
(irach) - Not bringing home the bacon.

Digestion?

*ahem*

Farting?

(Quendalon) - Not digestion.
(Raak) - Not "ahem" if I read you right.
(irach) - Not farting.

Constipation?

CONSTIPATION! Irouléguy has it! (The answer, I mean). Well done. The Lactulose is handed over to YOU.

Thanks, Rosie. WOO-HOO! On the throne again, so to speak. Our next is ANIMAL and ABSTRACT again, but no connection with the previous answer (well, almost no connection…)

Is the animal connection human?

Quendalon] Is the animal connection human? Yes

Rosie] What was the steam engine connection?

A single animal?

I gave up on asking Rosie questions, I wasn't very good at it... Sorry Rosie.

A specific named human?

Tuj] A single animal? No
irach] A specific named human? *applause* Yes and no

Fictional?

An expression?

A society of some sort?

Is the human alive today?

(Irouléguy) I'd just been re-reading an autobiography of an outstanding engineer who described a very numerous and apparently popular class of engine has having a "thoroughly constipated front end" (sic), i.e. the exhaust passages were too long and tortuous and much energy was absorbed in just getting rid of the used steam. I'd always thought these locos were crap and I only found out near the end of the steam era, when this book was published, that this was true. Not much relevance to AVMA, as you can see.

Tuj] Fictional? No
Quendalon] An expression? Gordon Bennett! No
Chalky] A society of some sort? *murmuring among the audience* No is the most useful answer
Rosie] Is the human alive today? No and yes (to be read in conjunction with the answer to irach's question).
'crap locos' - well, I got to 'farting', by thinking of the Puffing Billy, so there is a sort of connection.

A role that is filled, at any given moment, by a specific named human?

Connected with religion?

CdM] A role that is filled, at any given moment, by a specific named human? No
Inkspot] Connected with religion? *some giggling in the audience No

A group of people with something in common?

Chalky] A group of people with something in common? *applause YES

Is the group of people composed of both sexes?

Connected to sport?

Do these people engage in some rather dubious activity?

Are these people related by blood?

irach] Is the group of people composed of both sexes? Ye-es, though almost all male
Inkspot] Connected to sport? No
Rosie] Do these people engage in some rather dubious activity? *giggling from sections of the audience* Depends on your definition... No is the more useful answer.
Quendalon] Are these people related by blood? No

Connected with sexual activities?

Did it start in a particular country?

Does the common activity involve drinking?

Quendalon] Connected with sexual activities? *prolonged sniggering from a section of the audience* Activities, no.
Inkspot] Did it start in a particular country? Yes, though there's some dispute as to which country it was.
irach] Does the common activity involve drinking? It might do, but that's not the primary link.

Did it start before 1900?

Inkspot] Did it start before 1900? No

Connected with the military?

A charity organisation?

Quendalon] Connected with the military? No
Inkspot] A charity organisation?

Do they have a medical condition/syndrome in common?

Chalky] Do they have a medical condition/syndrome in common? No

Is this a commercial activity in any way?

Rosie] Is this a commercial activity in any way? Yes - some of the people who do this will get paid for it.

It is likely to involve a journey of some kind?

Is it connected to a time of year?

Kim] It is likely to involve a journey of some kind? Only a circular one ;-)
Inkspot] Is it connected to a time of year? No

Does it take its name from a specific human?

To do with the Arts?

Anuything to do with vehicles?

Quendalon] Does it take its name from a specific human? *some cheering* Yes
Inkspot] To do with the Arts? *more cheering* Yes
Tuj] Anything to do with vehicles? *dead silence* No

Associated with the musical arts?

An exhibition?

irach] Associated with the musical arts? Yes
Rosie] An exhibition? No

A male voice choir?

Chalky - A male voice choir? Dim

A rock band?

irach] A rock band? *some applause* No

The Billy Cotton Band?

Wakey-wakeeee.

(Irg) - re answer to Chalky; I think that should be Nag'dy ( = no, it isn't), if I read you right. Dim means "no" in the sense of "absence of", eg dim o arian, "no (of) money". Diwedd y wers. :-)

Rosie] Billy Cotton? No
Welsh lesson] Thanks - obviously I'm the dim one.

Some sort of popular beat combo, m'lud?

An orchestra?

Does the group still exist?

A Big Band/Dance Band?

(Irg) Well, I wouldn't say that. The problem is that there is no single word for either yes or no in Welsh. You either repeat or negate the verb. Diwedd yr ail wers. (Projoy) You must be older than you look. :-)

Did the group form before 1990?

Projoy] Some sort of popular beat combo, m'lud? No - see irach's earlier question
Botherer] An orchestra? Good to see you here! No
irach - Does the group still exist? It's not a group
Rosie] A Big Band/Dance Band? No. Thanks for the explanation. Interestingly Putonghua Chinese (Mandarin as it's often known) does much the same.
Inkspot - Did the group form before 1990? See earlier answers

Title of a piece of music?

Alexander;

Alexander'S Ragtime Band?

Inkspot] Title of a piece of music? No
irach - Alexander's Ragtime Band? No

Time for a summary? The answer is a group of people with something in common, mostly male. The 'something in common' has connection with rock music, and takes its name from a specific human, but it's not a group. Questions about this involving religion, sexual activities, and being dubious have all drawn giggles or sniggers from the audience. It's not a relationship by blood, or connected with the military (though there was a connection once - sorry, should have noted that earlier), or a charity organisation. It's sometimes done for money, and it may well involve drinking. There's no connection with a particular time of year, and only a jokey connection with journeys.
Writing all that out makes me think that it's glaringly obvious, but perhaps I shouldn't be cruel ;)

Elvis impersonators?

Rosie - Elvis impersonators? YES! So as Rosie was the question-setter before me, the baton is returned to sender.

(Irouléguy) - Actually it was the Lactulose I handed you and you are gracious enough not to hand it back, though I hope you haven't drunk it. I'm told it's rather persuasive.

Right, this one is ABSTRACT, and absolutely nothing to do with steam locos.

Can it be proven by science?

Sorry Rosie if the question is a bit broad, but what I mean is something like magetism or a black hole.

Is there a human element to it?

(Inkspot) - It probably could, but the answer to your question as you intend it is NO.
(irach) - Human element? YES.

Is there a mathematical element to it?

A philosophical idea?

(Quendalon) - No mathematical element.
(Raak) - Not a philospohical idea.

Connected to the brain?

An arrangement of concrete things?

(CdM) - Not connected to the brain.
(Raak) - Not an arrangement of concrete things. You mean physical, I assume.

Is it unique?

(Rosie) So there's a human element, but no Animal connection?

(Quendalon) - Hmm, difficult. Let's say each one is. But that's not very helpful. It needs humans for this abstract thing to manifest itself, so there is an Animal connection, an omission on my part.

Begins with a P?

Sin?

Rosie] Thanks :)

An activity?

(Tuj) - Does not begin with a P.
(Irouléguy) - Nice thought, but not sin. What would I know about that?
(Raak) - Not an activity.

Connected with the body?

Is it connected with the arts?

(Quendalon) - Not connected with the body.
(Kim) - Connected with the arts? It can be on occasions.

Connected with emotion?

Anything to do with the weather?

(Quendalon) - NO! Er, sorry, no connection with emotion.
(Chalky) - Nothing to do with weather.

Is the arts connection (when it arises) limited to one branch of the arts?

Connected with the occult?

(Kim) One or two branches of the arts at most. The connection is not a vital part of this, but occurs.
(Chalky) - Not connected with the occult.

Connected with sound?

(Quendalon) - Connected with sound? - Yes

Is the sound musical?

(irach) - Sometimes can be but not essentially.

Is it to do with the quality of sound?

Connected with the human voice?

To do with poetry?

(Inkspot) - Quality of sound? Yes, interpreting "quality" fairly broadly.
(Quendalon) - Yes, connected with the human voice. *considerable applause*
(irach) - Nothing to do with poetry.

An accent?

A glo'al stop?

Shouting?

(Raak) - Yes, an accent. *wild cheering from audience, who think it's all over, but it's not, quite.*
(Irouléguy) - No' a glo''al stop.
(Inkspot) - Not shouting.

A Welsh accent?

Received Pronunciation?

A Dixie Southern drawl?

(Raak) - Daw' be daft, mun.
(Inkspot) - Not RP.
(irach) - Dixie? - Nope.

The answer is A something Accent.

A French accent?

A grave accent?

An accent from the British Isles?

(irach) - Not a French accent.
(INJ) - Imaginative, but gravely in error.
(Projoy) - A British accent? - Could be, certainly.

A foreign accent?

[irach] Relative to where? :P

A posh accent?

Is the accent from a particular city?

(irach) - It could be, to a good ear.
(Irouléguy) - Good heavens no, dear boy.
(Inkspot) - Not from a particular city.

A northern accent?

"Lots of planets have a North" (Christopher Eccelstone as Dr Who)

(Inkspot) No, but a northern accent is an example of this.

Specifically an accent of the English language?

(Quendalon) - No, not specifically English.

Could I nudge people gently away from the particular.

A nasal accent?

A local accent?

A regional accent?

A fake accent?

(Projoy) - Might be.
(Raak) - Not fake.
(Chalky) Not local, but so close, since KIM has it! Well done. Your go.

Ee, bah gum, etc, etc.

Jolly dee. OK, this one is MINERAL.

Precious?

Man made?

[Raak] No.
[Inkspot] No.

A specific individual object?

[Raak] Yes.

WARNING: even yes/no answers can potentially be misleading.

Could you lift it?

Simply to rule out an anarcho-syndicalist-driven steam locomotive.

Is it a place?

Is it on Earth?

Bigger than a telephone box?

[Inkspot] Difficult. On balance I would have to say...No.*some murmurs of interest from the audience*
[Irouléguy] Yes.
[Raak] Yes.

Is it a geographical feature?

Is it a geological feature?

Has it been in existence for at least the last two centuries?

A single specific object in the generic sense (in the same way as, say, "a stone")?

[Irouleguy] Yes.
[Quendalon] Yes.
[Chalky] No.
[Projoy] No.

A mountain range?

Is the mineral some form of water?

Made of sand?

[Inkspot] No.
[Raak] No.
[Projoy] No.

A geographic/geological feature at one specific terrestrial location?

Connected with volcanic activity?

[Irach] Yes.
[Raak] Yes.
*The audience senses a build up of momentum (or pressure?).*

Surtsey?

In the Northern Hemisphere?

Paricutin?

A fault line?

Krakatoa?

[Rosie] No.
[Quendalon] No.
[irach] No.
[Inkspot] No.
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[Irouléguy] No.

In africa?

Is the answer the name of a volcano?

[Inkspot] No.
[Raak] No.

In Asia?

The lake of mud in eastern Java?

Which doesn't appear to have a name, according to the BBC.

a tectonic plate?

[Inkspot] No.
[Irouléguy] No. *audience gets quite interested*
[Projoy] No.

Is it solid?

Krakatoa?

In Austrailia?

[Quendalon] Yes.
[Rosie] I refer the Hon. Gntlmn to the answer I gave Irouléguy a few moves ago.
[Inkspot] Not in Austrailia (sic)

An island?

Hang me for a typo: guilty as charged

Is it the product of a volcanic eruption?

[Quendalon] Yes.
[Irouléguy] Yes.

The new island that emerged this year in Tonga between Kao and Late?

Bugger - simmed

Excellent set-piece work by Quendalon and Irouléguy, but Raak gets in at the near post and nods it in. The answer is indeed the new island that has appeared in the South Pacific recently. Well done, Raak, better luck next time to Irouleguy and Quendalon.

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2006/11/14/asia/AS_GEN_Tonga_New_Island.php by the way.

So they are still making real estate!

The next is ABSTRACT, VEGETABLE and MINERAL.

Begins with a P?

[Tuj] One day, an answer will begin with a P. That day is not yet.

Sweating aubergines?

Anarcho-syndicalist vegetable stir-fry?

One day, the answer will be Anarcho-syndicalist something-or-other.

[I] No. Er, is that a face pyjama?

[K] That day too is yet far off.

A painting?

[R] Not a painting.

Is it a character from a fictional work?

[K] Not a character from a fictional work.

Connected with the arts?

A figure of speech?

[Q] Not the arts.
[T] Not a figure of speech.

Is the vegetable wood?

[R] Face pyjama? No, just a cooking technique.

[I] Can be wood.

Man-made?

Does this have strong religious connections?

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