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AVMA Take 2

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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....

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[CdM] If you went down the AVFMA road, you'd have to add a couple of others to the list, too.

Does it grow in a mutually beneficial arrangement with conifers?

[flerdle] Mutually beneficial relationship with conifers? - Definitely not.

(But despite that, the audience applauds, somewhat confusedly.)

Would this be ingested as a medication rather than a food?

[Dujon] Medicine rather than food? - No.

[CdM] Many of your answers seemed to be pointing to the fruit of Tricholoma magnivelare, but that's obviously not right. Sorry.

[flerdle] Tm? - No, but in some ways you are getting very close.

Shiitake mushrooms?

[Irouleguy] Shiitake mushrooms? - No.

Mycelium?

I'm thinking it can't be the cultivation of mushrooms on hardwood logs because you would've given a hint when I asked about trees some time ago - I still think this is some form of parasitic mushroom.

Chanterelle mushroom?

The Honey mushroom? [ Armillaria mellea]

Forgive the multiposts - I've only a few free minutes today - and I've been googling. S'amazing what you learn ....

[Chalky] Mycelium? - No, but the audience applauds the parasitic mushroom comment.
Chanterelle? - No.
Honey mushroom? Major applause from audience. The mushroom is indeed a honey mushroom (the fungus is actually Armillaria ostoyae, but to be honest I haven't quite figured out the differences among the different armillarias). However, as I said before, identifying the variety of fungus is not sufficient to answer the question. For clues, see some of my responses to Raak's recent questions.

Are we looking for a specific Armillaria ostoyae, ie. a single organism which exists somewhere on the planet?

[Darren] Specific Ao? - Yes. (The audience is getting very excited, and a couple of individuals have been escorted from the room.)

The Giant one found in Oregon in 2000?

"Officially known as Armillaria ostoyae, or the honey mushroom, the fungus is 3.5 miles across and takes up 1,665 football fields. The small mushrooms visible above ground are only the tip of the iceberg. Experts estimate that the giant mushroom is at least 2,400 years old, but could be 7,200 years old."

That was a quote, btw - I was in a rush

Did you know that Mushrooms have over 36,000 sexes! Unlike us mere mortals who have only the 2 [and a bit, arguably]. No wonder they proliferate.

[Chalky] Yes! I mean, come on people, it's only one of the biggest and oldest living things in the world...
*hands the button, sorry, baton, to Chalky*

yippee

Why thenk you, Mr CdM. What a splendid subject for AVFMA-ing!
That was a steep learning curve for me - not being a mushroom eater. There's something about the thought of all that grubby foraging which quite turns my stomach. They smell gorgeous and I'll happily cook them for other people - just can't eat them. Pity.

Anyway, enough of this self-disclosure. It's high time we had ...

ABSTRACT ANIMAL

Is it a fictional human?

K9?

[GL] that was 2 questions - but ..
Fictional - No
Human - er .. Yes
[Raak] K9 - Not this time [one day, one of your early guesses will be correct] :-)

Are there religious connotations?

Female?

Dead?

It was 1 question, although I admit a simple "no" would have confused us. Thank you

Is it a characteristic, in the broadest sense, of humans?

Related to religion?

A particular human?

Is it connected to faith in anyway?

Lucy?

on the basis of your 'er' in the response to human?

Linus? Charlie Brown?

Oh. That Lucy...

sorrysorry - been busy

[Darren] Are there religious connotations? - No
[Inkspot] Female? - Yes - but then again NO :-)
[GL] Dead? - No
[Rosie] Is it a characteristic, in the broadest sense, of humans? - I don't think so [if I understand your question correctly]
[Raak] Related to religion? - No
[Irouleguy] A particular human? - Yes
[all] Is it connected to faith in anyway? - Can't answer such a broad sweep question - surely everything's connected to some sort of faith, even if it's faith in ones own judgement?
[INJ] Lucy? - nah [ignore my 'er' - 'it' IS human ]
[CdM] Linus / Charlie Brown? - nah / nah [I thought he meant the one in the sky with Diamonds ..]

Is it (the particular human) an adult?

Hello flerdle :-)
[flerdle] Is it (the particular human) an adult? - Yes, mostly.

Do people dress up as this person?

Dame Edna Everage?

[Chalky, re: hello] Huh? *worries*

Is this person of a particular gender?

Is is a description? ie "fat cat"

Lilt

Lily Savage?

Sorry - ignore the first one

hidden a gender?

[Raak] Do people dress up as this person? - there ARE lookalikes, yes
flerdle - Dame Edna - No
[flerdle] The hello? Don't see you playin' this game very often, that's all. Sorry I worried you]
Darren - Particular gender? - Of course, yes
[Inkspot] No - nothing along those lines
[Irouléguy] Lily Savage - No

hmmm - crossdressing trannies - don't go down that path. If I was vague on the gender issue, there might be a good reason. It may help to think laterally. Don't worry about the Abstract part just yet either.

Mrs. Merton?

Is this a role (rather than the specific person who happens to fill it at any time)?

Dr Who's assistant?

[Chalky] I hadn't really even looked in here before. I suspect I'm not going to be that good at it, and may disappear at any time.

[Raak] No
[Raak again] NO - definitely real, living, breathing, active, etc.
[flerdle] No [OK - but your input certainly helped me get the last one :-)]

[Raak] re: your 2nd question above - The Abstract element could be described as a 'role' but it may be simpler to just guess the animal bit first - and the astract nature will follow quite naturally [I hope].

Does this person hold any kind of official position?

Are they associated with any particular country?

Do they have long hair?

[Rosie] Official position? - depends what you mean by 'official'. Er .. Yes.
[flerdle] Are they associated with any particular country? - At last! They are associated with two countries.
[flerdle] Long hair - Some and some :-)

Both European countries?

[Raak] Yes - they live in both.

Is the title of the role hereditary?

[Inkspot] No

Ask general questions about the people - forget the 'role' for now.

Are they pop stars?

Are they popular?

European countries?

sorry for delay - been watching The 100 Top Albums on C4 ...

[Raak] Pop Stars? Well - not really, but ... she was a pop star.
[Irouléguy] Popular? Oh yes, and quite recently - however, their star may be waning ...
[Tuj] European countries? - Done that one already. Have a quick read back :-)

Is Billie Piper a part of this?

Are the countries England and Spain?

The Beckhams?

Darn; pipped by time zones :-)

[Raak] No
[Dujon] Yes
[CdM] YES - they are the people *applause*

Now for the Abstract bit :-)

The appearance of Posh and Becks in the Simpsons?

Not that I actually know if they have appeared there.

They've launched a fashion label?

Is that the one called 'Thick & Thin'?

[Raak, Irouleguy, INJ] It's all those things ... in one word, then add that one word to their name and that's the answer ..

Posh and Becks dolls?

The Posh and Becks brand?

INJ] *grin*

The Beckham Phenomenon?

The all-singing-dancing-football-playing-and-generally-being-annoying-Posh&Becks show?

Beckhamania?

AHA!

[Raak] It's not the dolls specifically, so I can eliminate that one.

As for the other replies - you are all correct so I have to be fair and give it to the person who mentioned the word 'Brand' [mainly because I had in mind the phrase The Beckham Brand when I began].
Well done Irouléguy for getting there just before flerdle [with whom I agree wholeheartedly on the annoyance factor]
Commiseration thingies to INJ for also being correct.

*hands over to Irouléguy*

Something of a lurker's victory there, but I'm not complaining. Our next topic is ABSTRACT, and the colour is an association rather than a clue. it's also hopefully got a far lower annoyance factor.

Weather forecasts? :-)

Is it an emotion?

flerdle] Weather forecasts? :-) No - I like it though
Gusset Login] Is it an emotion? No - but there is a connection

Does it primarily exist in fiction?

Is it generally regarded as positive?

Is it associated primarily with humans?

Raak] - Does it primarily exist in fiction? Yes, though that may not be as helpful as it sounds
Darren] Is it generally regarded as positive? As previously
ImNotJohn] Is it associated primarily with humans? As previously

Is it a belief?

Raak] Is it a belief? No - but again there's a connection.
Apologies in advance for tomorrow - I'm working out of the office most of the day, and I won't get a chance to log on until early evening.

Is it a proverb?

Is it something religious?

Is it defined by it's absence?

Kim] Is it a proverb? No
Raak] Is it something religious? No
Gusset Login] Is it defined by it's absence? No

It is living (albeit in an abstract sense)?

Raak] Is it living (albeit in an abstract sense)? The question's not really applicable

Is it a pattern?

Is it a human concept?

Raak] Is it a pattern? Yes, of sorts, but that really doesn't help
Gusset Login] Is it a human concept? Necessarily, as it's an abstraction.

Can it be perceived by the senses?

Darren] Can it be perceived by the senses? Yes - only one of them though.

Is it perceived by hearing?

There are absracts that are more than human concepts (eg gravity)

Braille?

The sound of one hand clapping in the forest when no-one is there to hear it?

Gusset Login] Is it perceived by hearing? YES! *low murmur of appreciation from the audience*
There are abstracts that are more than human concepts (eg gravity) Conceded - I hadn't thought of it like that
Darren] Braille? No
Raak] The sound of one hand clapping in the forest when no-one is there to hear it? No.

Is it a piece of music?

Is it a sound of Nature?

Raak] Is it a piece of music? YES! *scattered applause from the audience*
Rosie] Is it a sound of Nature? No

Was it written since 1900?

The Internationale?

Is it a song?

Raak] Was it written since 1900? Yes
CdM] The Internationale? No - I did say the red was more of an association than a clue.
CdM] Is it a song? Yes

Was it a number one hit in either the US or the UK?

Is it sung by Kate Bush?

CdM] Was it a number one hit in either the US or the UK? Yes, in both (though not in the same year - a useful trivia nugget for quizzes)
Raak] Is it sung by Kate Bush? No!

The Beatles?

Raak] The Beatles? YES! audience screams, waves scarves, takes flash photos, etc

Is the red an association with the uniforms they wore on the cover of the Sergeant Pepper album?

Strawberry fields?

Raak] Is the red an association with the uniforms they wore on the cover of the Sergeant Pepper album? No
Rosie] Strawberry fields? No

Penny Lane?

Has it got the word "Sun" in the title?

Back in the USSR?

Raak] Penny Lane? No
Kim] Has it got the word "Sun" in the title? No - that was never a number one, was it?
ImNotJohn] Back in the USSR? No

Can't Buy Me Love?

Free as a Bird?

Darren] Can't Buy Me Love? No
Gusset Login - Free as a Bird? No

I want to hold your hand?

She Loves You?

Too slow - I agree with Flerdle.

Funny, because I actually agree with Raak :-) My guess was no 1 for too long in the UK to be technically correct...

ps sorry I haven't been around much this time, this week's been "interesting".

[Flerdle]I reckon you're right 'cos it's the only one that was a Uk & US No1 in different years (63 &64).

[INJ] Which one of my statements? :-D
Have a look here and turn to the next year... Very good site, btw, but can't get to the front page right now.

it looks completely dead now. Oh well.

I dunno, you take your eye off it for a minute...
And the winner is RAAK! (I did think the different years was a bit of a give-away). The red association is simply that it's on the red album. Over to you, Raak.

Well, that was a fluke, never heard of a red album, didn't look at the web sites, and I doubt I could name more than half a dozen Beatles songs.

The next item is a definitely concrete MINERAL (and no, the answer isn't "concrete").

A half-brick?

Manufactured?

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