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AVMA Take 2
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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....
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[inkspot] no.
[raak] no.
[darren] no.
[chalky] as for your guess, it's...

RIIIIIIGHT!!!

I was beginning to think no-one would get it. the flip flops in question actually serve as slippers for me, as I like my feet to get lots of air, but our carpets are a little suspect. so I hand the baton on to Chalky...
surprised
er ... thanks nights :-)

And now for:

A N I M A L / A B S T R A C T

A character in a novel?
Scooby-Doo?
Living?
Is it a mythological being?
Male?
irouleguy] No
CdM] No :-)
Tuj] Abstract - so difficult to know, really :-)
Darren] No
nights] maybe, maybe not
Would this have anything to do with painting?
Is it from a nursery rhyme?
Long shot because I can't be bothered to think at this time of night - is it the Cheshire Cat?
Fictional?
Does it appear in one specific culture?
Is this a type of creature, rather than a specific (abstract) animal?
sorry about delay - weekends are difficult
Dujon] No
Inks] No
Rosie] No
Raak] No
nights] Yes
Darren] depends what you mean by 'creature' - but I would say No - if I understand your question correctly

.. and going back to Tuj's earlier question, ie. "Living?" - [to clarify] There is a possibility.

Is there a religious connection?
Loch Ness Monster?
Is it some sort of symbol?
Irouleguy] No
Darren] No
Tuj] No ... but I had to ponder a bit before I replied :-)
Is it a reptile?
Raak] No
Is this a depiction of a human form?
Does it have any nationalistic connotations?
Dujon] to cut to the chase - it IS human. I'm amazed no-one has asked yet.
Rosie] No. [good question]
Royalty?
The aristocracy?
Raak] No
Irouleguy] No
Does its image appear on coins or notes?
The one culture it's specific to - is it Western?
Raak] No
Irouleguy] Yes
American?
all] No
European?
British?
Darren] Yes
nights] Very much so!

So after all that kerfuffle, we've established that it's human and very British.

Biggles?
Is it a leader?
King Arthur?
Is it a particular person?
GL] No
Darren] No & No
Raak] Not A particular person ...
Is it Dr Who?
Is it a role that has been filled by various people?
Darren] No
Raak] It isn't a role, as such. But 'various people' wakes the audience up.
The House of Commons?
The Prime Minister?
Is it a collection of people? - (e.g. a choir or a rugby team)
Raak] No
Darren] No
Dujon] YES!
Do they appear on television?
Raak] No, I don't believe they did.

that was a clue

Does (or did - after looking at your last answer), this group of people have a common interest in music?
Duj] They had a common interest in something - music was a by-product
Did they appear (as much as one can) on radio?
Is it a fictional group of people?
Darren] Indeed they did!
Rosie] We've done the fiction question already, dear :-) No.
Did they appear on radio?
The Goons?
Raak] YESYESYESYES [see above]
CdM] No.
Have they appeared on radio in the last few years (excluding reruns and archive broadcasts)?
Raak I don't think so - they were very much 'of the time'
Was the time they were of in the 1960's?
ISIRTA?
GL] No
Raak] Whatever that is - it isn't that.
Are you old enough to have heard the original broadcasts?
Round the Horne, dear?
Is the answer of the form: "the cast of such-and-such a show"?
Raak] 'fraid not - and I suspect, neither were you :-)
nights] No, poppet
CdM] No

Clue: Inkspot's early question, if asked at this stage in the game, might receive a ripple of applause from the audience.

Were they on 'ITMA'?
Were they on any wartime radio programme, darling?
Was it meant for children?
Surely it can't be The Grove Family , m'dear?
Irouleguy] er .. wassat then?
Darren] Yes, sweetie - my mother tells me they were.
Inks] Oh yes. Loud applause.
Rosie] No :-)

I'm thinking this may be rather obscure.

Listen with mother?
Toytown?
The Ovaltineys?
Children's Hour?
all] No
Raak] No
Inks] No

.. as for CdM - once again, the Maestro strikes!
Well played . Hope you've time to stick around and set one :-)

I know about The Ovalteenies [- tineys?] through my mum, who was one of those 'heppay gels an' boys'. Apparently, if you sent away lid labels from Ovaltine, you received a bronze coloured badge. In my mind, I'd always sort of connected that song with WWII, but mother says it started before the war - in the 1930s, and had absolutely NO connection. She can be a bit fierce like that. I believed her - so didn't bother googling. Apologies if I therefore answered anything wrong.


Chalky] Well done - seriously obscure. ITMA's the ancestor of all radio comedy. Check out the cast list. "It's that man again"
I'd congratulate you on a job well done Chalky, but only if you call me 'poppet' again...
Getting in a quick comment before CdM surfaces
ITMA] I don't recall hearing the show, but I wouldn't be surprised if we listened to it. My father had a good sense of humour - he loved the Goons too. I do remember watching a movie ITMA not so many years ago and recall Tommy Handley reminding me constantly of Richard Briers. I'm not sure whether it was facial features, his voice or mannerisms.
[Chalky] Good one, my dear, although I don't recall the Ovalteenies.
oooooooh
[Chalky] And ISIRTA, which Raak mentioned, was "I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again", which was in some ways a predecessor to ISIHAC. Only much funnier.

Anyway, this next one is Usually Vegetable and Mineral, but could be Animal (and I supppose you could make a claim for abstract, but that would be unhelpful). I will do my best to keep up with answers, although the fact that I am eight hours ahead of most of you won't make it easy.
Too obvious! It's a pizza - the veges are veges; the mineral bit's the remains of the delivery person's helmet when you knock the whatsit out of 'em for being late and the animal portion is, well, best not say.
VERY CLOSE!
...er, or it would be, except it wasn't. So, no, it is not a pizza.
Is it edible?
CdM - ISIRTA] *doh* 'course it is - thanks - my brain doesn't see these programmes as initials.
A painting?
Ratatouille?
[Chalky] Edible? It's not inedible, but you wouldn't normally eat it.
[Raak] Painting? No (but perhaps an early ripple of applause).
[Irouleguy] Ratatouille? No.
Would one wear it?
[Chalky] Wear it? No. It is true that it could be associated with clothing, but one would not normally think of it in that context.
A tapestry?
[Raak] Tapestry? No.
Some form of artwork?
[Irouleguy] Artwork? Not normally, no, at least not in and of itself.
Is it man-made?
[Inkspot] Man-made? Yes.
Is it decorative?
[Raak] Decorative? Not normally, no. (It is possible to imagine circumstances where it would be, but I think that is probably more misleading than helpful.)
Has the vegetable part been processed in order to be a part of this?
Is it used by artists?
Does it contain writing?
Is the mineral part mostly or usually wood?
Oh my God - the bifurcation's spreading
Is part of it metal?
[Iroleguy]I thought wood as a vegetable?
Is it something that can be made from either natural or artificial substances? (eg rubber or neoprene)
[Raak] Vegetable Processed? Yes
[Raak] Used by artists? It can be.
[Darren] Contain writing? No.
[Irouleguy] Mineral part wood? No. And neither is the vegatable part.
[Inkspot] Part metal? No. [Rosie] Can be made from natural or artificial substances? Yes. (Some applause.)
[Irouleguy] er, or the vegetable part.
A paintbrush?
Ink?
[Raak] Paintbrush? No.
[Darren] Ink? (Major applause). Very close, but I want something more precise.
Is it used in a domestic environment?
[Chalky] It is not typically used anywhere. (Well, I can think of one place.) But focus on Darren's answer -- he has basically gotten there.
(And yes, it can be used by artists, as I said. But normally you would not think of this as something that was being used.)
Well, it is gone midnight here in Singapore, and I am about to go to bed. And so, since Darren really did get the answer, I think I should pass the baton to him, rather than keep you all waiting until tomorrow. I was surprised how hard it was to answer some of those questions; my apologies if I misled in any way. The exact answer I was looking for was:

An Inkspot.
CdM] Nice one
self] Write out 'Wood is not a mineral' 100 times
Thanks to CdM! (It's the second time I've won one of these on a "ohhh... close enough"!) [Irouleguy] What about petrified wood?
Now we are Abstract.
Is it a human construct?
Is it an action?
Is it part of, or found in, all cultures?
Darren] True...
Is it a belief system?
Is it related to music?
[Rosie] Yes, but not necessarily. But yes.
{Inkspot] Yes.
[Irouleguy] I'm not sure if it's found in all, but certainly many.
[Gusset Login] No.
[Tuj] Indirectly, it can be.
[Rosie] Actually, just make that yes.
Is it a narrative activity?
Is it a physical activity?
[Raak] No.
[Irouleguy] Yes.
Dancing?
[Raak] No.
Is it a sport of some kind?
Is it done with the whole body?
Does it involve more than one person?
Is it something that only humans can do?
sorry - I think you've answered that last one already with your 'human construct' answer.
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