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AVMA Take 2
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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....
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Is it fictional place from a book or film?
Is it supposed or alledged to have magical, mystical, supernatural or way-out-there sci-fi powers of any sort?
[Inkspot] Yes, technically, but may not be best known for being in a book or film.
[sadie] Yes (depending on your definition of "way-out-there")
A mythological place associated with a particular culture eg Valhalla?
Is it from a radio series?
[Inkspot] No.
[sadie] no
Is it somebody's home?
Is the fictional setting on Earth?
Kryptonite?
[sadie] People live there for extended periods, if that's what you mean.
[Iroulguy] No.
[CdM] No.
Is it a place Dr Who?
Babylon 5?
following up from inkspot ... the Tardis?
Is it a spaceship?
Za'Ha'Dum?
The USS Enterprise?
Red Dwarf?
Just doing a bit of spaceship carpeting there.
[Inkspot] No, (but I guess it would be kinda fun - anyone for fan fiction?)
[Irouleguy] No.
[CdM] No
[sadie] Yes
[Raak] No.
[Darren] Close. But I need more than that
[Darren] No
[Darren] I've been convinced that you were close enough. (Enterprise NX01, from Enterprise) So please take the helm.
The Enterprise NC-1701-D?
agh! simulposted.. But I had the wrong one, anyway.. ;(
Thanks Gusset Login, and thanks to the mysterious person who convinced you.

The new one is Animal.

Hamster?
p optional.
Quadruped?
Alive?
human?
One particular animal or a species?
bovine?
legless?
Are they dangerous?
[Tuj] No. [Botherer] No. [Rosie] No. [Raak] Yes. [Irouleguy] Yes. [Inkspot] No. [Chalky] No. [Gusset Login] Almost certainly not, but then again it might depend who you ask!
Male?
George Dubya Bush?
[Inkspot] Yes. [snorgle] No. Anyway, he's still alive!
One particular human being?
[irouleguy and darren] I love questions that are either/or being answered with yes/no. example from this morning being: nights - do you want tea or coffee mate? housemate - yes.
Did he die in the last 50 years?
Did he die when he was older than 50?
[Chalky] Yes. [Raak] Yes. [Gusset Login] Yes.
Was he an actor?
Willie Rushdon?
[Inkspot] Yes. [Gusset Login] No.
British?
[Nights] I once answered an either/or chemistry question with Yes, because I thought both applied! My teacher wasn't too impressed, though. Maybe your housemate just wanted a hot drink, and didn't care what.
American?
nights] How come you don't know what your housemate drinks?
Did he die in the last 5 years?
[nights] Why would he drink Coffee Mate?
Did he win an Oscar?
[snorgle] Yes. [Irouleguy] No. [Gusset Login] No. [Inkspot] No.
Did he die more than 25 years ago?
[Gusset Login] No.
Peter Sellers?
I would just like to mention that I posted that before checking the clerihew game...
Did he appear in any of the "Carry on" films?
[CdM] No. [Inkspot] No, but he did have a connection to them.
Frankie Howerd?
Tony Hancock
Was he chiefly a comic actor?
[Raak] No (and Frankie Howerd was in at least two Carry On films, so I think we've already ruled him out). [Inkspot] No. [Rosie] Yes.
Was his fame mainly through film roles, rather than tv or radio?
[Inkspot] For most people he's best known from TV/radio.
Did he die this century?
Morbid stuff.
Benny Hill?
[snorgle] good point, although more likely he just wanted to get up my nose at 07h15 [irouleguy] cos he keeps changing his damn mind [gusset login] excuse me for having south london lexical usage patterns... [darren] sorry I'll stop this and shut the hell up now.
Kenneth Horne?
Spike Milligan?
[Tuj] If you mean in the 21st century, then no. 20th, yes. [Raak] No. [Botherer] No. [Irouleguy] No.
Derek Nimmo?
John Le Mesurier?
[Raak] No. [CdM] Yes! CORRECT!

So, with that remarkable insight, CdM takes the chair for the next round.

PS. For those who aren't aware of John Le Mesurier's connection to the "Carry On" films, he was married to Hattie Jacques (well, until their divorce).
[Darren] Yes, it was the connection to the Carry On films that was the clue that got it for me -- though I was sure I was right with Peter Sellers before, when I posted and then saw you had started a clerihew with him.

Much as I would like to start running with the flaming chair (I even have an idea in mind), I think I must decline for the moment. I am not going to be online much longer today (seeing as how it's already evening here in Singapore), and I am spending the weekend in Khao Lak, far from the internets. Perhaps I can sneak in later sometime. In the meantime, anybody else want a go?
ooh ooh can I?
Go for it!
Expose our utter ignorance of youth culture
[nights] Yeah, if you've got an idea, go ahead.
[nights] please do
very well. our topic is a mineral. I think.
Is it a single object?
Is it man made?
Is it a hosuehold item?
Darren] Am I really likely to be half a decade out in my time-reckoning? That's a fair chunk of anyone's life.
Is there more than one of it?
[Tuj] I wasn't sure why you'd say "was it this century?" when "was it within the last five years?" would have been more to the point! I was just hedging my bets.
Is it a household item?
No hosuehold, that's quite unlikely really. Darren] Fair enough. All is forgiven ;]
answers
[raak] no, [inkspot] yes, [tuj] not exactly, [darren] yes. [tuj] that's the same question again you berk.
What do you mean "I think"?
Is it a dwelling?
[Irouleguy] Yes/no questions only!
Is it found in all societies?
Darren] We can have either/or as well, can't we? (not that mine was)
CD?
nights] Whoa! Steady on! I think you'll find the first contains a typo, as referred to in the corrected second.
[tuj] oh yes, silly me. you can put that down to the fact that 14h08 is a little early for a sunday. and no, not a CD.
[irouleguy] I've been thinking and it IS. sure of it now. and yes, all western societies at least, AFAIK.
[darren] no.
Does it have a connection with religion?
Is it big enough to get inside?
Is it made of metal?
Is it related to jewellery?
Telephone box?
Is it machine-made?
Smaller than a toaster?
answers
[inkspot] not as far as I'm aware.
[darren] yes.
[gusset login] no.
[raak] no.
[all] no.
[irouleguy] yes, probably.
[tuj] yes.
this is remarkably entertaining!
Is it part of a bigger thing?
Smaller than a toaster but big enough to get inside...?
Part of the engine from the Heart of Gold's infinite improbability drive
Is it some sort of container?
Does it have moving parts?
Is it bigger than a slice of toast?
Is it a vehicle?
Does it include a means of storing digital information?
Changing tack somewhat.
answers
[tuj] no. and I think I should have made myself a little clearer. I assumed that 'big enough to get inside' meant 'inside my house', as in 'not outside'. I now see that you or whoever meant 'so big I can fit inside this thing', which you certainly cannot. erk.
[inkspot] pardon me? no.
[raak] no.
[insport again] no.
[gusset login] yes.
[darren] no.
[darren again] no.
are we having fun yet?
Would it be found in offices?
Is it something that can be attributed to a particular inventor?
Does it have a practical use?
Do people usually refer to it in the singular?
answers
[raak] not usually, it's not associated with them.
[inkspot] not as far as I know.
[darren] definitely.
[juxtapose] no.
Scales (for weighing)?
Is it made of stone?
Is it a mirror?
answers
No to all three. Sorry.
Is it made of a ceramic material?
Compact discs?
answers
no and no.
Is it made of plastic?
Is it a pair of something?
Would I be most likely to find one in the kitchen?
Would you find it in the bedroom?
Is it a brick?
can you do a summary?
this one seems to have been hanging around for bloomin' ages!
Would you hang stuff off it?
Summary
They are: mineral, man-made, multiple objects, found in all Western societies (as far as nights knows...), machine-made, smaller than a toaster, bigger than a slice of toast, something that has a practical use, referred to in the plural.

They're not: a household item ('not exactly' was the actual answer), a CD, connected to religion, made of metal, related to jewellery, a phone box, a container, anything with moving parts, a car, a means of storing digital information, usually associated with offices, something that can be attributed to a particular inventor, scales, made of stone, mirrors, made of ceramic material.

The six questions immediately above are pending.

Are they something you mainly use outdoors?
Are they something that you use up by using them?
answers
[raak] yes. (murmurs from audience)
[inkspot] yes. (more murmurs from the audience)
[tuj] no.
[darren] no.
[all] no.
[darren again] no.
[irouleguy] thanks for the summary, that's all correct so I haven't contradicted myself which is always a bonus.
your answers are yes (which further woke up the audience) and no in that order.
Shears?
Wellies?
Although those are more likely rubber rather than plastic.
Sunglasses?
Flip-flops [plastic beach shoe thingies]?
I thought sunglasses - but they have moving parts
answers
[inkspot] no.
[raak] no.
[darren] no.
[chalky] as for your guess, it's...

RIIIIIIGHT!!!

I was beginning to think no-one would get it. the flip flops in question actually serve as slippers for me, as I like my feet to get lots of air, but our carpets are a little suspect. so I hand the baton on to Chalky...
surprised
er ... thanks nights :-)

And now for:

A N I M A L / A B S T R A C T

A character in a novel?
Scooby-Doo?
Living?
Is it a mythological being?
Male?
irouleguy] No
CdM] No :-)
Tuj] Abstract - so difficult to know, really :-)
Darren] No
nights] maybe, maybe not
Would this have anything to do with painting?
Is it from a nursery rhyme?
Long shot because I can't be bothered to think at this time of night - is it the Cheshire Cat?
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