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AVMA Take 2

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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....

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Is it a single object?

Is it man made?

Is it a hosuehold item?

Darren] Am I really likely to be half a decade out in my time-reckoning? That's a fair chunk of anyone's life.

Is there more than one of it?

[Tuj] I wasn't sure why you'd say "was it this century?" when "was it within the last five years?" would have been more to the point! I was just hedging my bets.

Is it a household item?

No hosuehold, that's quite unlikely really. Darren] Fair enough. All is forgiven ;]

answers

[raak] no, [inkspot] yes, [tuj] not exactly, [darren] yes. [tuj] that's the same question again you berk.

What do you mean "I think"?

Is it a dwelling?

[Irouleguy] Yes/no questions only!

Is it found in all societies?

Darren] We can have either/or as well, can't we? (not that mine was)

CD?

nights] Whoa! Steady on! I think you'll find the first contains a typo, as referred to in the corrected second.

[tuj] oh yes, silly me. you can put that down to the fact that 14h08 is a little early for a sunday. and no, not a CD.
[irouleguy] I've been thinking and it IS. sure of it now. and yes, all western societies at least, AFAIK.
[darren] no.

Does it have a connection with religion?

Is it big enough to get inside?

Is it made of metal?

Is it related to jewellery?

Telephone box?

Is it machine-made?

Smaller than a toaster?

answers

[inkspot] not as far as I'm aware.
[darren] yes.
[gusset login] no.
[raak] no.
[all] no.
[irouleguy] yes, probably.
[tuj] yes.
this is remarkably entertaining!

Is it part of a bigger thing?

Smaller than a toaster but big enough to get inside...?

Part of the engine from the Heart of Gold's infinite improbability drive

Is it some sort of container?

Does it have moving parts?

Is it bigger than a slice of toast?

Is it a vehicle?

Does it include a means of storing digital information?

Changing tack somewhat.

answers

[tuj] no. and I think I should have made myself a little clearer. I assumed that 'big enough to get inside' meant 'inside my house', as in 'not outside'. I now see that you or whoever meant 'so big I can fit inside this thing', which you certainly cannot. erk.
[inkspot] pardon me? no.
[raak] no.
[insport again] no.
[gusset login] yes.
[darren] no.
[darren again] no.
are we having fun yet?

Would it be found in offices?

Is it something that can be attributed to a particular inventor?

Does it have a practical use?

Do people usually refer to it in the singular?

answers

[raak] not usually, it's not associated with them.
[inkspot] not as far as I know.
[darren] definitely.
[juxtapose] no.

Scales (for weighing)?

Is it made of stone?

Is it a mirror?

answers

No to all three. Sorry.

Is it made of a ceramic material?

Compact discs?

answers

no and no.

Is it made of plastic?

Is it a pair of something?

Would I be most likely to find one in the kitchen?

Would you find it in the bedroom?

Is it a brick?

can you do a summary?

this one seems to have been hanging around for bloomin' ages!

Would you hang stuff off it?

Summary

They are: mineral, man-made, multiple objects, found in all Western societies (as far as nights knows...), machine-made, smaller than a toaster, bigger than a slice of toast, something that has a practical use, referred to in the plural.

They're not: a household item ('not exactly' was the actual answer), a CD, connected to religion, made of metal, related to jewellery, a phone box, a container, anything with moving parts, a car, a means of storing digital information, usually associated with offices, something that can be attributed to a particular inventor, scales, made of stone, mirrors, made of ceramic material.

The six questions immediately above are pending.

Are they something you mainly use outdoors?
Are they something that you use up by using them?

answers

[raak] yes. (murmurs from audience)
[inkspot] yes. (more murmurs from the audience)
[tuj] no.
[darren] no.
[all] no.
[darren again] no.
[irouleguy] thanks for the summary, that's all correct so I haven't contradicted myself which is always a bonus.
your answers are yes (which further woke up the audience) and no in that order.

Shears?

Wellies?

Although those are more likely rubber rather than plastic.

Sunglasses?

Flip-flops [plastic beach shoe thingies]?

I thought sunglasses - but they have moving parts

answers

[inkspot] no.
[raak] no.
[darren] no.
[chalky] as for your guess, it's...

RIIIIIIGHT!!!

I was beginning to think no-one would get it. the flip flops in question actually serve as slippers for me, as I like my feet to get lots of air, but our carpets are a little suspect. so I hand the baton on to Chalky...

surprised

er ... thanks nights :-)

And now for:

A N I M A L / A B S T R A C T

A character in a novel?

Scooby-Doo?

Living?

Is it a mythological being?

Male?

irouleguy] No
CdM] No :-)
Tuj] Abstract - so difficult to know, really :-)
Darren] No
nights] maybe, maybe not

Would this have anything to do with painting?

Is it from a nursery rhyme?

Long shot because I can't be bothered to think at this time of night - is it the Cheshire Cat?

Fictional?

Does it appear in one specific culture?

Is this a type of creature, rather than a specific (abstract) animal?

sorry about delay - weekends are difficult

Dujon] No
Inks] No
Rosie] No
Raak] No
nights] Yes
Darren] depends what you mean by 'creature' - but I would say No - if I understand your question correctly

.. and going back to Tuj's earlier question, ie. "Living?" - [to clarify] There is a possibility.

Is there a religious connection?

Loch Ness Monster?

Is it some sort of symbol?

Irouleguy] No
Darren] No
Tuj] No ... but I had to ponder a bit before I replied :-)

Is it a reptile?

Raak] No

Is this a depiction of a human form?

Does it have any nationalistic connotations?

Dujon] to cut to the chase - it IS human. I'm amazed no-one has asked yet.
Rosie] No. [good question]

Royalty?

The aristocracy?

Raak] No
Irouleguy] No

Does its image appear on coins or notes?

The one culture it's specific to - is it Western?

Raak] No
Irouleguy] Yes

American?

all] No

European?

British?

Darren] Yes
nights] Very much so!

So after all that kerfuffle, we've established that it's human and very British.

Biggles?

Is it a leader?

King Arthur?

Is it a particular person?

GL] No
Darren] No & No
Raak] Not A particular person ...

Is it Dr Who?

Is it a role that has been filled by various people?

Darren] No
Raak] It isn't a role, as such. But 'various people' wakes the audience up.

The House of Commons?

The Prime Minister?

Is it a collection of people? - (e.g. a choir or a rugby team)

Raak] No
Darren] No
Dujon] YES!

Do they appear on television?

Raak] No, I don't believe they did.

that was a clue

Does (or did - after looking at your last answer), this group of people have a common interest in music?

Duj] They had a common interest in something - music was a by-product

Did they appear (as much as one can) on radio?

Is it a fictional group of people?

Darren] Indeed they did!
Rosie] We've done the fiction question already, dear :-) No.

Did they appear on radio?

The Goons?

Raak] YESYESYESYES [see above]
CdM] No.

Have they appeared on radio in the last few years (excluding reruns and archive broadcasts)?

Raak I don't think so - they were very much 'of the time'

Was the time they were of in the 1960's?

ISIRTA?

GL] No
Raak] Whatever that is - it isn't that.

Are you old enough to have heard the original broadcasts?

Round the Horne, dear?

Is the answer of the form: "the cast of such-and-such a show"?

Raak] 'fraid not - and I suspect, neither were you :-)
nights] No, poppet
CdM] No

Clue: Inkspot's early question, if asked at this stage in the game, might receive a ripple of applause from the audience.

Were they on 'ITMA'?

Were they on any wartime radio programme, darling?

Was it meant for children?

Surely it can't be The Grove Family , m'dear?

Irouleguy] er .. wassat then?
Darren] Yes, sweetie - my mother tells me they were.
Inks] Oh yes. Loud applause.
Rosie] No :-)

I'm thinking this may be rather obscure.

Listen with mother?

Toytown?

The Ovaltineys?

Children's Hour?

all] No
Raak] No
Inks] No

.. as for CdM - once again, the Maestro strikes!
Well played . Hope you've time to stick around and set one :-)

I know about The Ovalteenies [- tineys?] through my mum, who was one of those 'heppay gels an' boys'. Apparently, if you sent away lid labels from Ovaltine, you received a bronze coloured badge. In my mind, I'd always sort of connected that song with WWII, but mother says it started before the war - in the 1930s, and had absolutely NO connection. She can be a bit fierce like that. I believed her - so didn't bother googling. Apologies if I therefore answered anything wrong.

Chalky] Well done - seriously obscure. ITMA's the ancestor of all radio comedy. Check out the cast list. "It's that man again"

I'd congratulate you on a job well done Chalky, but only if you call me 'poppet' again...

Getting in a quick comment before CdM surfaces

ITMA] I don't recall hearing the show, but I wouldn't be surprised if we listened to it. My father had a good sense of humour - he loved the Goons too. I do remember watching a movie ITMA not so many years ago and recall Tommy Handley reminding me constantly of Richard Briers. I'm not sure whether it was facial features, his voice or mannerisms.
[Chalky] Good one, my dear, although I don't recall the Ovalteenies.

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