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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....
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Was it made by Cosgrove Hall?
From The Magic Roundabout?
[GL] Yes
[Rosie] No, I think that was pre-1980.
Just checked Magic Roundabout = 1965
Dangermouse?
Count Duckula?
I'm aware I could go on for some time with this, but I'll be a semisportsman and not list out the lot.
Darren] Ooh, go on.
Sorry for the delay, the weekend interupted me.
[Darren1] No, but you're close
[Darren2] YES. Hoorah, take a bow.
Bow. Wow. Right. Let's see...

Vegetable/Abstract

It's Monet's waterlilies, obviously.
The flower of immortality that Gilgamesh was given by Utnapishtim?
That todger-shaped turnip in Blackadder II?
Is this directly related to art?
Is it an ent?
[CdM] Obviously no.
[Raak] Nope.
[Chalky] No.
[Dujon] No.
[Gusset Login] No.
Is it a geographical area?
Is it a fictional object?
Is it used as a metaphor?
Is it a living plant?
As opposed to a dead one.
[Chalky] No.
[Kim] Yes.
[Raak] Could be, but then again anything could be.
[Gusset Login] Yes and no.
Is it edible?
Is there just a single one?
[Irouleguy] I suppose it probably would be, but this is not specified.
[Raak] Yes.
Is it a tree?
A long shot - The Beanstalk?
[Raak] Not strictly speaking.
[Rosie] CORRECT! So it's your go next!
Right, earwig-o, earwig-o, earwig-o.

This one is ABSTRACT with ANIMAL connections.

Blimey Rosie - if you're going to take a random lurker's guess, the least you can do is return to see the result :-) Well done. OK, let's crank up the line velocity and try to get this game moving again - which leads me to ask ...
Are we to assume that you will be online to reply to our questions around 1pm - 3pm and 12am - 2am as per your usual pattern?
Is it a work of fiction?
Is it the Welsh dragon?
(Chalky) - I'll try and have extended opening hours.
(Gusset Login) - No
(Darren) - No
Is it a mythical creature?
Is it human?
Is it singular or plural?
Is it an emotion?
(Gusset) - No
(Raak) - The Abstract part normally refers to humans.
(Iroule) - Yes, one of the two. All right, singular. :-)
(Darren) - No.
Does it have anything to do with religion?
(Raak) - No.
Is it an attribute of a living thing?
Is it a saying?
(Darren) - Yes
(Gusset Login) - No
Is it something unique to humans?
Is it a figure of speech?
Is it "dog tired"?
Is it a praiseworthy attribute?
(Darren) - As stated, it must be, but in a broader sense almost certainly not.
(Tuj) - No
(Kim) - No
(Raak) No. It's neutral.
Is it some flavour of "-ness"?
Is it human nature?
Tuj - Yes. Find the flavour. :-)
(Darren) - No.
Happiness?
Consciousness?
Doggedness?
Has it anything to do with the sense of smell?
Maybe a fragrance?
Loch-ness?
Anything to do with a geographical location?
(All) - No
Anything to do with time?
Is there any connection with art?
(Darren, Raak) - Both No.
Clarification
In my previous reply "All" means everybody, not just "all".
Baldness?
Is it a physical attribute?
Is it anything to do with morality?
(Raak1) - No
(Raak2) - Yes
(Darren) - No.
Maleness?
Beardiness?
Trombonism?
(all) - No.
(Darren) - Now, now. :-) Er, no. A clue is that I do have this attribute.
Trombonism
(Darren) That's an illness, not an attribute.
Ambidextrousness?
Rosie] I always substitute "flavour" for "type" in that sort of context, and you wouldn't believe how few people accept it.
(Tuj) - No {No problem whatever with the word "flavour". Perfectly obvious what you meant :-)}
Is it an attribute shared by more than half the population?
(Darren) - No. Byebyes at 3 a.m. tonight; I'm tired.
Anything to do with age?
(Raak) - No. :-)
Is it a {flavour, -ness, attribute} common to males?
Is it unique to people of a certain region?
(Irouleguy) - No more than females, AFAIK.
(Tuj) - No
Someone, no clues as to who, almost stumbled on the answer.
Youth, then.
A religious faith?
Deafness?
Musicality?
(Raak, Inkspot, all, Darren) - All No.
Although I mentioned that I had this characteristic, I doubt if anyone here knows it.
Left-Handedness?
Forgetfulness?
Truthfulness?
(Tuj, all) - No
(Snodgrass) - THAT'S THE ONE! Well done. Here's the baton.
Mmmm, Satisfied smile creeps over visage closely followed by panic on realising I have to run the next leg.....

OK. Lets have an ABSTRACT with ANIMAL connections

The Great Bear
The ban on hunting?
Is the animal connection human?
Is it a character from a book?
Is it from Lord of the Rings?
Is it edible?
(Raak)(Rosie) Both No
(Dujon) Yes
Inkspot) (GL) (Irouleguy) Also All No
... but one of the NO's is strangely relevant!
Does this involve an activity?
Is it a character from a film?
Fox Mulder from the X Files?
Is it Orion?
A pig's breakfast?
Nudity or Nakedness?
[Rosie] Not as such
[GL] [Darren] [all] No No Thrice No
[Raak] No but I like your style
[Chalky] Absolutely not, what do you take me for?
Is the human female?
Is it a character from mythology?
[GL] It can be
[all] Nope
Is it an emotion?
Is it a dislike of The Lord of The Rings?
[Darren] Its not an emotion ut it can cause them
[Boolbar] No, although many do I understand.
Does it have a Latin name?
A film critic?
Is it a medical condition?
[Tuj] & [Duj] Both No I'm afraid.
[Chalky] Also no - but if it were there might be a cure! Dream on.
It's more conceptual..
A jelly baby?
Is the cause of the emotion another human?
Lust?
[Wol], [Raak] Sadly No.
[Rosie] Quite the reverse. The 'animal' may cause emotional feelings in others with this.
Is it a well-known saying?
Is it a little-know saying?
Is it connected with religion?
[Chalky] & [all] Fairly well understood phrase. Clue: 2 words with alliteration
[Darren] Far from it, quite un-Godly
Dog's Dinner?
[Chalky] I could see how these may end up as a Dog's Dinner but No
Cat's Cradle?
Is it an insult?
Re: dogs and cats, I think we established above that the animal connection is human. (Dujon's question.)
Is it some desirable characteristic?
Good God?
Tecnically connected with religion, possibly by being it's opposite
[all] No (both offerings)
[Darren] Not an insult but some may feel slighted by them
[Rosie] The 'giver' thinks they are but the 'receiver' may have a different opinion
Wolf Whistles!!!
Chat-up lines?
[Darren] No
[Rosie] In a very real sense these could be thought of as chat-up lines. :-)
Love letters?
I'm still not totally convinced that wolf whistle is wrong.
Valentines?
[Darren] No - and Wolf Whistles is wrong. So there!
[Raak] Valentines What? Volvo? Vermicelli? No, not Valentines anything
An honest opinion?
[Irouleguy] No but straying into the right area.
A practical joke?
[Raak] No - but arguably what I am thinking of can be mistaken for a joke.
A helping hand?
[Darren] Nope.
Clue. The road may be paved with good intentions!
Constructive criticism?
Full Frontal?
I thought the road to hell was paved with frozen door to door salesmen.
Sweet nothings?
Cat calls?
[Darren] [all] [Rosie] [Chalky] All No I'm Afraid
Is one of the two words an animal [not human]?
Do both the words begin with the same letter?
[Chalky 1] No. The reference is human, and points toward a job, profession or calling
[Chalky 2] Yes, hence the alliteration reference
The Devil's Dictionary?
[Raak] No, Wrong initial letter. Is being the Devil a Profession? Mmm, there are possibilities I suppose...
Evil Eye?
Busy body?
[Snorgle] [Darren] No No
Star signs?
Agony Aunts?
Cold callers?
[Chalky] No twice
[Irouleguy] No once
Clue: A statement is involved.
[Snodgrass] ... then make one and put us all out of our misery :-)
Turn your minds towards Election Time
Party Politics?
THATS CLOSE ENOUGH! I was thinking of Politicians Promises but
CHALKY has reached the gist of the notion of the glimmer of an idea so I willingly hand over the batton to CHALKY

Rousing cheers all round almost drowning out the sound of groaning and deep sighs of relief!

Well done Chalky. That was a toughy. I'd not heard "politicians' promises" used as a phrase before, but at least somebody got it in the end!
acknowledgements
Thanks Darren, and yes - my venacular doesn't encompass that phrase either, but hey ...
[Snodgrass] Thank you, kind sir [?] - some might say you've been over-generous.
OK - I'm conscious that weekend is due and this might be a slow-burner but here's a nice simple

M I N E R A L

[and if there are any animal bits then they're not important enough to redherring your efforts ... and I've just verbalised an abstract noun - so kill me :-)

Is it man made?
Is it bigger than a phonebox?
[GL] Yes
[GL] It could be but very unlikely
Do you own one (or more)?
[Bool] I do have it, yes. 'Owning', as such, may not be the correct word.
Is it a bone of some sort?
Is it a house?
Oh, a man-made bone isn't very plausible.
Smaller than a toaster?
Is it something more often owned by women than men?
I just realised a house smaller than a phonebox isn't very plausible either. I really should start paying more attention to Gusset Login's moves.
A fuse/circuit-breaker box?
If not "owned" is it shared?
Well, Raak stole my thunder. I was pondering on his contribution, a gas meter or a 'phone line. So, a 'phone line?
Should I by some misfortune be correct I would ask that Raak take the reins.
Is it metal?
A mobile phone?
... rushing in and rushing out
[Darren] No & No
[Tuj] It can be any size but not usually very large
[Darren] Yes
[Raak]No
[Rosie] can be
[Dujon] No
[Inkspot] No
[Darren] No.
Would most people usually have just one?
A Handbaaaaaaaaaaaag?
Is it to do with cosmetics?
Is it purely ornamental?
apologies
I've just realised I can't be here for a couple of days so I will hand the baton over to Darren [if that's OK with you D?] because he was the closest with his cosmetics question. I'll return to this later in the week, if an opportunity arises. :-)
Is it lipstick?
Speaking personally, I'm willing to wait for Chalky's return. We can just keep asking questions until she gets back and answers them all.
A silicone implant?
Mirror?
A dress?
[irouleguy] Usually
[Edith] No
[Darren] Yes!
[Tuj] No
[Darren] No
[Raak] No
[Tuj] No
[all] No

Oh yes - I realise now there's some vegetably bits in this but as it's cosmetics you'll soon guess it :-)

Mascara?
Lipstick?
[Darren] No
[GL] I refer the honourable gusset to my previous answer :-)
Wig?
I'm not honourable, I don't even read answers.
A lifetime subscription to "Facelift Monthly"?
Would you keep it in a handbag?
[GL] Nah
[Raak] No :-)
[Raak] You could keep it in a handbag, or anywhere really.
Is it a liquid?
[Raak] VERY good question. It can be quite liquid, but then again ...
Foundation makeup?
nail varnish?
[GL] No
[Inks] No
Is it a cream?
Vaseline?
Is it usually used on the face?
[Inks] yes, mostly
[Raak] No - altho' some use Vaseline for this purpose. It's a more generic term
[Darren] er .. ye-e-es but can be used on all the other bits aswell.
Petroleum jelly?
Suntan lotion?
Aqueous cream B.P.?
moisturiser?
So snorgs earns a Lurker's Victory! Moisturiser it is.

[Darren, Raak] Thanks for your contributions - your last guesses were relevant but those products have more medicinal applications, perhaps?

*hands over baton to snorgle*

Mineral
Is it man-made?
Do you wear in on your face?
(cutting to the chase, just in case)
Is it smaller than a phonebox?
Is it bigger than a breadboard?
Is there more than one?
Is it made of stone?
Anything to do with jewellery?
Can you eat it?
Gusset Login - Is it man-made? Yes. Darren - Do you wear in on your face? No. Gusset Login - Is it smaller than a phonebox? Yes. all - Is it bigger than a breadboard? No. Darren - Is there more than one? Yes. Inkspot - Is it made of stone? No. Raak - Anything to do with jewellery? No. Darren - Can you eat it? No.
Keyboard keys?
Are they soluble?
Can they be bought in packets?
Tuj - Keyboard keys? No. Botherer - Are they soluble? No. Darren - Can they be bought in packets? Yes.
Is it used in DIY?
Does each example contain a single mineral element?
Is it mainly metallic?
Does it run on electrical power?
A drawing pin?
Paper clips?
Screws?
Do they come in packets of three?
Extra strong mints?
CDs?
wtfRU snorgle?
Are they decorative?
[Rosie] Yes/no questions only, please.
Lives snorgle yet?
Teeth?
Are they exclusive to Cardiff?
(all, esp. Darren) Sorry for being so flippant.
Would most people find them pleasant to look at?
[Rosie] Oh, that's not a problem. I'm the one who was being flippant!
Has snorgle forgotten about this game?
Sorry! - off work yesterday due to horrendous incident, went to doctor etc..just remind me if I missed anyone.
Darren - Is it used in DIY? No. Kim - Does each example contain a single mineral element? No. Rosie - Is it mainly metallic? No. Inkspot - Does it run on electrical power? No. Chalky - A drawing pin? No. Gusset Login - Paper clips? No. Darren - Screws? No. Raak - Do they come in packets of three? No. Tuj - Extra strong mints? No. all - CDs? No. Rosie - wtfRU snorgle? *THWAP!* Darren - Are they decorative? No. Rosie - Are they exclusive to Cardiff? No. Darren - Would most people find them pleasant to look at? No. Gusset Login - Has snorgle forgotten about this game? No.Kim - Lives snorgle yet? Yes!
Is it mostly made of plastic?
Gusset Login - no.
Mostly ceramic?
Darren - no.
Are they made of glass?
Are they made of a man-made substance?
Nylon?
Is it made to be decorative or ornamental?
Is it something you wear?
Raak - Are they made of glass? No. Darren - Are they made of a man-made substance? Yes. Darren - Nylon? No. Inkspot - Is it made to be decorative or ornamental? No. Gusset Login - Is it something you wear? No.
Is it foruse in an office?
Microchip?
Mobile Phone?
Rosie - Is it for use in an office? Yes. Gusset Login - Microchip? No. all - Mobile Phone? No.
Is it an electronic gadget?
Raak - Is it an electronic gadget? No.
Summary:
Is it man-made? Yes.
Does each example contain a single mineral element? No.
Is it mainly metallic? No.
Is it made of stone? No.
Are they made of glass? No.
Are they made of a man-made substance? Yes.
Nylon? No.
Is it something you wear? No.
Do you wear in on your face? No.
Anything to do with jewellery? No.
Is it made to be decorative or ornamental? No.
Are they decorative? No.
Would most people find them pleasant to look at? No
Is it smaller than a phonebox? Yes.
Is it bigger than a breadboard? No.
Is there more than one? Yes.
Can they be bought in packets? Yes.
Do they come in packets of three? No.
Are they soluble? No.
Can you eat it? No.
Is it used in DIY? No.
Are they exclusive to Cardiff? No.
Is it for use in an office? Yes.
Does it run on electrical power? No.
Is it an electronic gadget? No.
Extra strong mints? No.
CDs? No.
Microchip? No.
Mobile Phone? No.
A drawing pin? No.
Paper clips? No.
Screws? No.
Keyboard keys? No.
Treasury tags?
Ink?
Glue?
Kim - Treasury tags? No. Darren - Ink? No. Gusset Login - Glue? No.
Is it something that can be used?
Darren - Is it something that can be used? Yes.
Is it anything whatsoever to do with stationery?
Are they the middle name of a famous author?
Left field
Are they / is it
Is it a container?
Rosie - Is it anything whatsoever to do with stationery? Erm, possibly. Tuj - Are they the middle name of a famous author? None that I know of, but maybe they changed their name because it was too embarrassing? Because it would be. Inkspot - Is it a container? No.
Time for another guess:   Would it be the clear plastic tabs used on top of file folders in a filing cabinet?
Can it be used on its own? (ie. without the need for additional equipment)
A bottle of Tippex?
Dujon - Would it be the clear plastic tabs used on top of file folders in a filing cabinet? No. Darren - Can it be used on its own? (ie. without the need for additional equipment)Yes, but it is usually used with something else. Rosie - A bottle of Tippex? No.
Screenwipes?
Irouleguy - Screenwipes? No.
Does it get used up by being used?
Raak - Does it get used up by being used? No.
Is it designed to be looked at?
Is it for use with a computer?
Does it require a source of power?
A floppy disc?
mouse mat?
Wow.
Tuj - Is it designed to be looked at? No. Inkspot - Is it for use with a computer? No. Darren - Does it require a source of power? No. Raak - A floppy disc? No. all - mouse mat? No.
Can we have a clue?
Is it something to do with fastening things to each other?
Would you buy it in a stationers'?
Gusset Login - Can we have a clue? No. Raak - Is it something to do with fastening things to each other? Yes. Darren - Would you buy it in a stationers'? Yes.
Treasury tag?
If I happen to be right, someone else needs to pick up the baton as this site is blocked at work by websense as, apparantly, a "game"...
Bothererereeerrr- Treasury Tag - no. Someone asked that already. And a recent question should give a big clue..
An edge binder?
Out of shear desperation
simulposted at this time of night!!!!
Staples?
I don't want to be right. I'm not on here often enough. I was simulposted by that Inkspot!!!!!!!
My excuse is two very generous whishkeys what's yours?
None really
Back from work late? Wrapping birthday presents for brother and a friend?
That's the next version of this game by the way - excuses for playing MC at stupid times.
Inkspot - An edge binder? No. Tuj - Staples? No. You're getting closer though!
Split pins
Ooh, they're fantastic!
Tuj - Split pins? No. Maybe fasten is the wrong word..
Dash and Bothereration
I really should read these things, shouldn't I?
Sellotape?
String?
Pritt stick?
A hole punch?
(I suspect Rosie or Inkspot may be right.)
Post-It notes?
A paper clip?
Twine?
Raak] Paper clips were ruled out some time back.
A key ring?
Rosie - Sellotape?No. Irouleguy - String?No. Inksopt - Pritt stick?No. Darren - A hole punch?No. (I suspect Rosie or Inkspot may be right.) Darren - Post-It notes?No. Raak - A paper clip?No. Irouleguy - Twine?No. Raak - A key ring?No. You're getting warmer! (Back a bit..near the start)
elastic band?
have we had that yet? haven't got time to do caps or look back
A key safe?
A (two- or three-) ring binder?
Maybe you should try narrowing it down descriptively again..
Chalky - elastic band?No. Raak - A key safe?No. CdM A (two- or three-) ring binder?No.
Is it made of plastic?
Is it small enough to put in your pocket?
Is it part liquid?
Rosie - Is it made of plastic? Didn't you ask this already? As it happens, I don't know exactly what it's made of, but I think of plastic as hard, so no. Raak - Is it small enough to put in your pocket? Yes. Inkspot - Is it part liquid? No.
Is it Blu-tak?
A fridge magnet?
A summary of the yesses so far:
  • there's more than one
  • can be bought in packets
  • of a man-made subsstance
  • for use in an office
  • can be used on its own (but usually with something else)
  • to do with fastening things to each other
  • can be bought in a stationers'
  • small enough to put in a pocket
Outstanding questions: is it Blu-tak (Botherer), or a fridge magnet (Raak)?
Botherer - Is it Blu-tak? YESYESYESYESYES!
I can't believe it took so long. I even put a hint in the limerick game!
Handing the torchy thing to Raak
ah sorry, I meant to Bothererererer, of course.
steals torch from Raak to give to Bothererererer
The trouble is...
I can't access this site from work (websense thinks it's a game!) and will be limited to late night visits for the next few days, so it would be unfair for me to hold the torch... I nominate the first person who gives a damn...
Not me - I had a go recently.
Congrats Botherer. I'll give a "Damn!"
Alright if you want someone else to do it, I'm game

Abstract and Mineral

The salt of the earth?
[Raak] No.
Is it fictional place from a book or film?
Is it supposed or alledged to have magical, mystical, supernatural or way-out-there sci-fi powers of any sort?
[Inkspot] Yes, technically, but may not be best known for being in a book or film.
[sadie] Yes (depending on your definition of "way-out-there")
A mythological place associated with a particular culture eg Valhalla?
Is it from a radio series?
[Inkspot] No.
[sadie] no
Is it somebody's home?
Is the fictional setting on Earth?
Kryptonite?
[sadie] People live there for extended periods, if that's what you mean.
[Iroulguy] No.
[CdM] No.
Is it a place Dr Who?
Babylon 5?
following up from inkspot ... the Tardis?
Is it a spaceship?
Za'Ha'Dum?
The USS Enterprise?
Red Dwarf?
Just doing a bit of spaceship carpeting there.
[Inkspot] No, (but I guess it would be kinda fun - anyone for fan fiction?)
[Irouleguy] No.
[CdM] No
[sadie] Yes
[Raak] No.
[Darren] Close. But I need more than that
[Darren] No
[Darren] I've been convinced that you were close enough. (Enterprise NX01, from Enterprise) So please take the helm.
The Enterprise NC-1701-D?
agh! simulposted.. But I had the wrong one, anyway.. ;(
Thanks Gusset Login, and thanks to the mysterious person who convinced you.

The new one is Animal.

Hamster?
p optional.
Quadruped?
Alive?
human?
One particular animal or a species?
bovine?
legless?
Are they dangerous?
[Tuj] No. [Botherer] No. [Rosie] No. [Raak] Yes. [Irouleguy] Yes. [Inkspot] No. [Chalky] No. [Gusset Login] Almost certainly not, but then again it might depend who you ask!
Male?
George Dubya Bush?
[Inkspot] Yes. [snorgle] No. Anyway, he's still alive!
One particular human being?
[irouleguy and darren] I love questions that are either/or being answered with yes/no. example from this morning being: nights - do you want tea or coffee mate? housemate - yes.
Did he die in the last 50 years?
Did he die when he was older than 50?
[Chalky] Yes. [Raak] Yes. [Gusset Login] Yes.
Was he an actor?
Willie Rushdon?
[Inkspot] Yes. [Gusset Login] No.
British?
[Nights] I once answered an either/or chemistry question with Yes, because I thought both applied! My teacher wasn't too impressed, though. Maybe your housemate just wanted a hot drink, and didn't care what.
American?
nights] How come you don't know what your housemate drinks?
Did he die in the last 5 years?
[nights] Why would he drink Coffee Mate?
Did he win an Oscar?
[snorgle] Yes. [Irouleguy] No. [Gusset Login] No. [Inkspot] No.
Did he die more than 25 years ago?
[Gusset Login] No.
Peter Sellers?
I would just like to mention that I posted that before checking the clerihew game...
Did he appear in any of the "Carry on" films?
[CdM] No. [Inkspot] No, but he did have a connection to them.
Frankie Howerd?
Tony Hancock
Was he chiefly a comic actor?
[Raak] No (and Frankie Howerd was in at least two Carry On films, so I think we've already ruled him out). [Inkspot] No. [Rosie] Yes.
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