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AVMA Take 2

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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....

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One of those hideous things Texans wear?

[Soft] A "bolo" tie, as I believe they're called? NO

A kipper tie?

Is that why they applauded codpiece? For the cod, rather than - as it were - the piece...

[blame] YES! the words on the card are "a nylon kipper tie", and the fish connection was indeed the reason for the applause. *turns the baton around itself twice, folds the end through the gap, passes it through the loop, tightens, and hands it over to blamelewis*

I was fishing from the shoulders of giants...

Yay, whee, oh cripes do I have to do one now?

Errrrr... ANIMAL

A human?

A Duck?

The Duck-Man of Oswestry?

[Projoy] Oh I do hope that's right - we did a project on him at school.

No to all above sadly...

The Ocelot-Man of Oswestry?

The Owl-Man of Oswestry?

Part of a dead animal?

I fear Owestry has no part in it... And it's less part of a dead animal than the whole of a living one.

Mammal?

Fish?

Neither Fish nor Mammal.

Is it a bird?

dingdingding

[Rosie] Yes!

The Duck-Pigeon of Wrexham?

A penguin?

Associated with NE Wales?

The chick of Chirk. I know this part of the world rather well.

[Projoy] We need to have a talk.
[Gusset] Not a penguin.
[Rosie] Not to my knowledge.

Mythical avian?

A well-known phrase or saying?

So much for the Albatross of Acrefair, then.

A species of bird?

[Software] I have reasonably good reason to believe it's a real species
[Rosie] None that I've come across
[Phil] Yes, exactly that.

Does this bird fly?

Likely to be seen in a British back garden?

[Dujon] Shrewd. No it doesn't.
[Rosie] Alas no.

Is it a penguin?

Is it a Kiwi?

[Phil] Still not a penguin :)
[Gusset] Neither a Kiwi

An ostrich?

But not the Oswestry Ostrich, obviously.

Emu?

A dodo?

I know you said living but all the good answers were gone.

[Rosie] Obviously. Also, no.
[Software] U me? (no...)
[Gusset] I can promise you that just fewer than two good answers remain.

Is it extinct?

A bird that is to be found in northern Australia?

Grebe?

A cassowary?

(since Dujon never actually comes out with the guess) :-)

A gold star to CdM. What a morniverse-analytic person you are. :)

[Raak] Nope
[Dujon] Nope
[Gusset] Nope
[CdM] Nope

Rhea?

A caracara?

[Software] Not a Rhea, but Rare! (Not a Ratite, but a rarity)
[Phil] it is not, but thanks for introducing me to a new bird name...

A steamer duck?

Ostrich?

A recap

It's a non-mythical species of bird, flightless and rare.
It is none of the following:
Penguin, Penguin, Kiwi, Ostrich, Emu, Grebe, Cassowary, Rhea, Caracara, Steamer Duck, Ostrich.
A cryptic clue follows

Hidden text

Filthy Teletubby!

The Kakapo of Ludlow?

The Po Bird?!

Is it someting along the lines of the Oomegoolybird?

This was posted via Eh-Oh L.

"Something". I have not gone Jamaican.

Penguin?

Projoy has it!

Apart from the Ludlow bit, as far as I'm aware...
[Gusset] A droll lol...
It is indeed the endearingly hopeless Kakapo, which I learned about from Douglas Adams' wonderful Last Chance To See and the later TV series with Stephen Fry and Mark Carwardine revisiting the species from the book years later.

[Rosie] I remember that joke, is it from Clue? "very short legs..."

OK, here's an ANIMAL, VEGETABLE and MINERAL

France?

Some form of food and drink?

[GL] France? NO
[blamelewis] Edible/Imbibable? NO

Can you wear it?

A gold embossed, leather bound book?

Arty?

Does the animal part relate to humans?

Is this an object once used in war and hunting?

[GL] Book? NO
[Raak] Art-related? NO
[Phil] Animal human? PARTLY/MAINLY, I suppose.
[Dujon] An object? NO. Used in war? ARGUABLY (but probably not that helpful an angle).

[Softers] Wearable? NO.

Is/was there just one of it?

[Raak] Just one? YES is the best answer.

The Earth, and all that is upon it?

A man-made environment?

[Raak] The cloud-capp’d towers, the gorgeous palaces, the solemn temples, the great globe itself, yea, all which it inherit? NO
[Rosie] A man-made environment? YES, I GUESS YOU COULD CALL IT THAT.

The Anthropocene Age?

[Raak] Humantime? NO

Is/was it in space?

[blame] In space? NO (except in the sense that everything is).

A theatre?

Can you see all of it at once?

[blame] Not a theatre.
[Rosie] Can you see it all at once? NO, not from most angles.

(I guess it depends how strict your definition of 'it all' is).

Bigger than a phonebox?

[Software] Much bigger than a phonebox.

Bigger than Ireland?

[GL] Smaller than Ireland.

About the size of Wales?

1 standard unit.

[Rosie] Smaller than a Wales.

Bigger than Kent?

[GL] Smaller than Kent.

A man-made island?

Bigger than Central London?

Within the M25

[Software] Not an island
[GL] Smaller than London, both in M25 and 1965 and 1899 boundaries terms.

er, 1889, I meant.

Bigger than the London Eye?

[GL] Yes, bigger than the biggest ferris wheel.

Is it an organisation?

[blamelewis] Organised? No, not as such.

A specific urban area?

[Rosie] A specific urban area? YES.

Slough?

In the UK?

[Software] Come, friendly bombs? NO
[GL] In UK? YES!

Is this an area which might be loosely termed as an 'entertainment' district?

[Duj] Entertainment? NO.

Is it a City?

Is it in Wales?

Is it a distinctive part of some large city?

[blame] City? NO
[GL] Wales? NO. *audience cries of 'bad luck, old chap'*
[Rosie] Distinctive part? NO.

Is it in England?

Shropshire?

[GL] England? YES!
[Software] Shropshire? YES!

Gotta be Oswestry.

[Rosie] Oswestry, home of the famous duck-man? YES! Please take this very short section of the England-Wales border.

Well, well, I've been Offa'd a Dyke. Oswestry was "town" to my Dad's family from Glynceiriog.

Enough of this rambling - the next object is

ABSTRACT with ANIMAL and MINERAL connections.

A human construct?

(Pj) A human construct? - YES.

Particularly linked to a specific human?

(CdM) Linked to a specific human? - NO.

Is there a religious theme to the answer?

(Phil) Religious theme - NO.

Clarification/Correction: The "human construct" applies to the wording rather than the idea itself.

Phrase or saying?

(Software) Phrase or saying? - YES.

Wales-related?

Is the animal element specifically human?

(Projoy) Nothing to do with Wales, or its border towns.
(Phil) Animal element human? - YES.

Is there anybody there?

(Rosie) Not a soul.

A fool and his money are soon parted?

I am

(Softers) So true, but not this time.

Hint: The AOTC contains no verb - it's a description.

So that'd be along the lines of a 'Man Mountain' then?

(Dujon) Possibly along those lines, YES.

Duck Face?

(Gusset Login) Not "Duck Face". *some aduience murmurings of approval*

Selfie?

(Gusset Login) Not a selfie.

Is the mineral naturally occurring?

(Dujon) Naturally occurring mineral? NO.

A photo bomb?

atomic or otherwise

Is this something related to some thing people wear?

(GL) Er, not sure what that is, but it ain't the answer.
(Dujon) No relation to anything worn.

Related to "The Arts"?

Something somebody does?

(Phil) The Arts and How They Was Done? NO.
(Software) Not a thing anybody does.

A type of person?

(Raak) Strictly, NO, but we may be getting somewhere. *audience, previously somnolent, now considerably animated*

A fictional character?

A role that someone plays?

(Phil) Fictional? NO. This is about real people.
(Raak) NO, not a role.

A job title?

(Phil) Job title? NO.
Raak's penultimate: The AOTC is not a type of person but describes a type of person.

A Fat Bastard?

A jobsworth?

(Software) Not a Fat Bastard.
(Raak) Not a jobsworth.
It's figurative - see the original definition.

Is this something one would be pleased to be described as?

(Raak) A nice description? Someone described thus may well say yes, but the vast majority, no.

Is the mineral metal?

Trying different line of attack...

(Phil) Is the mineral metal? YES.

Man of iron?

(Software) Not Man of Iron, nor Thatcher. Try just a little further up the Periodic Table.

Is it related to Polonium?

(Gusset Login) Polonium? NO. Not that far up the Periodic Table, nothing like it.

copper?

(Phil) Copper? YES, but not solely.

Bronze Age Man?

(Phil) Bronze Age Man? NO.

Brass neck?

(Software) Damn cheek, but the right answer! A Brass Neck it is. I hand you the brazen stick.

Gosh, I must get out the Brasso.

Now what have we here? The laser display board is showing the audience and the players are getting the clues:

This time it is ANIMAL

An individual?

A human?

Living?

Multi-YES!

In the entertainment industry?

Female?

[Raak] NO, would be the right answer
[GL] NO

Involved in politics?

[GL] In a way, YES.

Seen on TV?

Billy Bragg?

[Chalky] oh YES
[Pro} NO

In charge of a programme?

A presenter on current affairs?

[Rosie] NO
[Raak] NO

A comedian?

Anything to do with sport?

[Rosie] NO
[Raak] NO

An actor?

A peer?

[Phil] Not as such, NO
[Raak] NO

Something to do with 'reality TV'?

[GL] Big Brotherism? NO

Someone's side-kick?

[Rosie] Subordinate? NO very much his own man

Jeremy Clarkson?

Host of a TV programme?

[Raak] Wheel Spheel? absolutely NO
[Phil] Still not a TV presenter NO

known primarily for tv work?

Host of tv programme is not necessarily the same as in charge of one, or a news presenter.

[Phil] forget tv as a main issue NO

Involved in "the Arts"?

A scientist?

[Phil] arty farty? NO
[Rosie] Boffin? NO

Part of the financial world?

A doctor?

[Rosie] Wheeler dealer? NO
[cfm] Dr Whom? NO

Is the TV presence of primary importance?

[Rosie] NO not really but it is of some interest

Well-known primarily in the (still) United Kingdom?

[cfm] NO, pretty well known worldwide I'd say

Recap:
male, well known, not especially TV oriented, not an actor or a presenter but (clue) newsworthy.

[cfm] NO, pretty well known worldwide I'd say

Recap:
male, well known, not especially TV oriented, not an actor or a presenter but (clue) newsworthy.

A tycoon?

[Rosie] NO.

A musician?

[cfm] NO

Journalist?

You forgot to mention 'vague link to politics' in the recap.

[GL] Horrah! YES

Works for the BBC?

Mainly journalises for newspapers?

Piers Morgan?

[Rosie] NO
[Projoy] YES
[GL] Smarmy? NO

Would he be an ex-pat Australian?

[Duj] wizard of Oz? YES now we are cooking with gas!

Clive James?

[Phil] That Oz? NO

Not Rupert sodding Murdoch?

[Rosie] Absolutely NOT! - NO

John Pilger?

[Rosie] Not him either, but stick with the Oz theme. NO

Does this chap have a surname which is also a common given name?

[Duj] Daily Telegraph top 10 boys names? NO

Peter Greste?

Mark Austin?

[Phil] PG? NO
[Chalks] MA NO stick with the Oz theme

Aged over 50?

Leftish tendencies?

Regularly published in a UK Newspaper?

[Phil] > 50? NO
[Rosie] Red under the bed? YESish
[GL] Regular contributor? NO

Given your emphasis on OZ: Was this person involved with the OZ magazines?

Clarification: Oz = Australian. Anyway, the AOTC is under 50

Is this ex-pat Australian now based in the UK?

Richard Flanagan?

[Phil] In the UK? Well, technically, NO (but ponder on that)
[GL] had to Google him NO

Oh, it'll be that moron Julian Assange then, is it?

[Phil] That moron? - YES!

I didn't think that this would have taken so long, never mind, I now hand over the leaky baton to Phil!

Ithangyew, Software! Indeed, I think we could have got there earlier with the right questions. So lets be pressing on with

Animal

Human?

[Software] Human? YES

Alive?

[GL] Alive? NO

Died this century?

Begins with P?

Male?

Western?

Entertainer?

[Raak] 21st century death? NO
[Tuj] P-prefix? NO
[Rosie] Male? YES
[pen] Western? YES (unless you mean in the John Wayne sense)
[GL] ENtertainer? NO

Died before 1950?

[GL] Dead pre 1950? YES

Died before 1850?

Political connection?

[GL] Dead pre 1850? NO
[Software] Political connection? YES-ish

A scientist?

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