Vegetable &amp; Animal

[Phil] Mineral stone? INTER ALIA.

Does this relate to a piece of literature?

[Chalky] Literary? Most likely mentioned in literature but not specifically famous for that.

Is it the name of a room?

[Chalky] Not the name of a room.

CLUE: A lot of people reading will have direct personal experience of this, and for those that do they will have spent a lot of time thinking about it.

Is it an activity?

A game?

[Phil] Activity? SORT OF, not exactly
[Chalky] A game? *audience laughter* NO.

Conveyancing?

A profession or occupation?

[Phil] Conveyancing? NO *some applause*
[Chalky] Not a profession.

Buying a house?

[Raak] Housebuying? NO *audience look pleased*

Selling a house?

Moving House?

still in the right area

[Raak] Selling? NO
[Chalky] Moving? NO.

Gazumping?

House-hunting?

is renting a house involved?

[Chalky] Gazumping? What a wonderful word. NO
[Chalky] Hunting? NO
[Raak] Renting involved? NO *applause* NO, not in the sense you probably mean.

Is 'demolition' part of this?

[Dujon] Demolish? NO! Well, hopefully not.

Speculative development?

still in the right area

[Raak] Build it and they will come? NO.

Does a word in the AOTC end with "-ing"

Does it involve building a building?

[Phil] Gerund? NO
[Raak] Involves building? NO. (Involves a building? YES).

A mortgage?

A survey?

A valuation?

Home Insurance?

the default option

[Rosie, Chalky] Not those, since...
[Raak] YES! A MORTGAGE. The mineral connection is bricks and mortar and the vegetable connections are paperwork and cash. * hands over the baton in exchange for Raak's promise to pay him for it once a month for the next thirty years *

Don't worry, the government will bail you out.

The next is MINERAL, with ABSTRACT connections.

Does it involve bricks?

[GL] No bricks.

A man-made structure?

[Rosie] Man-made.

Metallic?

[Software] Nonmetallic.

Made of stone?

[Rosie] Made of stone.

irach

Stonehenge?

A building?

[irach] Not Stonehenge
[Projoy] Not a building.

Unique?

[Tuj] Unique.

Rosetta Stone?

In Britain?

Larger than a telephone box?

(Damn. I actually thought of mortgage when Projoy gave us his clue, but then rejected it for some really compelling reason that I can't remember.) :-)

[Rosie, CdM] Smaller than a telephone box in Britain, because...
[GL] The Rosetta Stone!

Hmmmm...

Let's go with an ABSTRACT with Animal connections.

Human animal?

[Software] human? - No.

Is the animal a type of animal (as opposed to an animal product, such as leather)?

A well-known phrase or saying?

[Phil] animal? - Not an animal product.
[Chalky] phrase or saying? - No.

Some sort of organisation?

A book/story?

the Animal connection - a living organism?

[Rosie] organisation? - No.
[Dujon] book/story? - Yes.
[Chalky] a living creature? - Yes.

A children's story?

Moby Dick?

Long shot.

[Phil] kids' tale? - Yes.
[Rosie] The great white whale? - No.

Does this animal have a tendency to sound like a clock?

[Dujon] Sounds like a clock? - No.

Is the typical/target readership under 8 years old?

[CdM] target readership<8? Why do you assume a story needs to be read?

Tom and Jerry?

Winnie the Pooh?

[Rosie] T&J? - No.
[Raa] A bear of very little brains? - No.

Has the story been filmed?

[Raak] on film? - Yes.

Babe?

Bambi?

[Chalky] Good Pig? - No.
[Software] Bambi? - No. *Some applause*

Did this involve some number of brooms?

Cartoon?

[Dujon] brooms? - I don't remember any.
[Chalky] cartoon? - No.

Disney?

[Chalky] Sidney? - No.

Peter Rabbit?

has the film been on release for longer than 10 years?

[Software] Peter Rabbit? - No.
[Chalky] film age>10 years? - Yes.

cfm

Old Yeller?

[cfm] Old Yeller? - No.

A dog?

[Chalky] Dog? - No.

a horse ... or maybe a kangaroo?

[Chalky] Horse/Kangaroo? - Not a horse. Not a kangaroo. Not some freaky cross-breed of the two.

You leave my black velvet coated skippy alone, Chalky. ;)

Does this film involve hunters?

[Dujon] hunters? - No, not that I recall anyway.

Mickey Mouse?

Bambi/Disney?

[Software] Mickey Mouse? - No.

Summary: The AOTC is a living, fictional, non-human character and the title of a live action film from more than ten years ago. The character is not a dog, horse, kangaroo or any traditional game animal (no hunters). It is not a book (I couldn't even find a novelisation) and the film was not made by Disney.

Why did Bambi get some applause from the audience?

King Kong?

Trigger, the Wonder Horse?

[Chalky] Bambi got the clap? - First time someone guessed a film with a title character.
[Chalky] King Kong? - No.
[Raak] Trigger? - Not a horse, not even Trigger.

Babe?

Racing Stripes?

[Software] Babe? - Still not Babe.
[Phil] Racing Stripes? - No.

A member of the cat family?

Is the AOTC humanoid?

[Raak] Feline? - No.
[Phil] Humanoid? - Yes.

a Martian?

[Raak] Martian? - *Audience applaudes loudly* No, or at least probably not.

Is the central character a being stranded on Earth?

Paul?

[Dujon] Stranded on Earth? - Yes.
[Phil] Paul? - No.

ET?

Superman?

[Phil] Kal-El? - No.
[Chalky] Phone home? - YES it was ET The Extraterrestrial. Have a baton with one glowing end.

Splendid! Thank you GL.

Keeping it simple with A N I M A L and V E G E T A B L E and even a hint of M I N E R A L

Meat and two veg with a sprinkling of salt?

[Raak] Meat and two veg with a sprinkling of salt? NO *audience applause*

Is it edible?

Smokey bacon crisps?

[Phil] Edible? YES
[Raak] Smokey bacon crisps? NO - but *a huge roar of approval from an already excited audience*

A full english breakfast?

Oh, I say ...

Thanks to some incisive questioning Projoy has it!
Full English Breakfast is indeed the AOTC.

Here you are, dear chap, please accept this amusingly-shaped sausage baton ... phnarr phnarr

How eggs-citing. Hopefully I won't make a hash of the next one.

MINERAL

Is it man made?

[GL] Human-made? YES.

Metal, mostly?

[Rosie] More metal than not? NO, but there is metal in it.

Intended to be digested?

Bricklike?

[Dj] Gustible? NO.
[Chalky] Bricky? NO.

[Rosie, addendum re: metal] I guess that by mass the metal makes up less than 50% but now I think about it more, I'm not completely sure.

Electrical?

A device, gadget, tool etc?

Yes or No to any - I'm not trying it on.

[Software] Electrical? I'd say NO * a murmur in the audience*
[Rosie] "Device" is probably the best out of those options.

A piece of equipment designed for the reception of radio signals?

[Dj] PoEDftRoRS? NO. *much audience applause*

battery operated?

A router?

A CD?

[Chalkeroonie] Battery? NO
[Rosie] Router? NO
[GL] CD? NO *tumultuous applause*

A cassette tape?

A DVD?

[rab] A cassette? YES!
* hands over a biro so you can rewind to the start of a new round*

Bollocks

I should know better than to post before buffering off to the pub for six hours.

Mine is ABSTRACT, potentially with connections to all three other categories.

The colour red?

[Chalky] Whence "phnarr phnarr", I wonder?

Reality?

Imagination?

music?

[Tuj] I first encountered it in the 80s via "Finbarr Saunders and his Double Entendres" in Viz magazine (once the 3rd most popular magazine in the UK!)

Colours - not even close.
Reality - only in the sense that this does have a physical manifestation.
Imagination - components might transpire as a figment of the same.
Music - no. But the general level of tangibility is not far off.

A human invention?

An artform?

As opposed to a specific piece of art.

Is this an emotion of some kind?

A performance of some kind?

(Tuj, Phil) I'm sure it was "Fnarr, fnarr".

April Fool?

Sorry for asking two questions but this one had to be asked.

Human? - very much so yes.
Artform? - to say yes would be deliberately obtuse, but the level of specificity is spot on.
Performance? - of some kind, I suppose so.
Ha ha bonk? - no

Is this an emotion of some kind?

On behalf of Dujon the Whisperer ;-)

Sorrow.

Emotional? No. Not that human.

Academia?

Lackademicals

No, but I like the cut of your jib.

Teaching?

A theory?

Teaching - no, but keep thinking about performances in the broader sense
A theory - no

Might this involve 'letters after ones name'?

Legal connection?

A medical connection?

Postnomials? Probably, but not necessarily.
Legal link? *applause* Yes, keep going
Medical? Possibly, but not necessarily.

Being called to the bar?

Mine's a small americano

Nope.

Evidence?

*ooh ahh* part of the performance certainly.

Cross-examination?

Making a statement?

A trial?

Prosecution?

Grumpy looks? No, but this is definitely involved.
Statement? Likewise
Inspiration for Kafka? audience oohs, aahs and generally inhales in a "that'll costya" kind of way no
Perspiration? No.

A tribunal?

Advocacy?

Tribunal? Not long, now.
Advocacy? Less abstract.

A court case?

Luggage? Nope. Keep going though.

Legal Aid?

The Supreme Court?

Unexciting fizzy drink? No
Cooked in stock and cream and served with rice to make an unfulfilling dish? Nein.
You were closest with the tribunal-style performance.

A Judgement?

A judicial review?

Public Inquiry?

A Royal Commission?

A verdict?

Got there in the end

Yay, Chalky. It was a public inquiry. Well done.

Yay. Nice one. Good to see you, rab.
As is my custom - a quickie ...
A N I M A L

Human?

[Raak] Human? YES - ish.

Politician?

Maria Miller?

An extinct hominid?

Sajid Javid?

Alive now?

[Gusset Login] - Politician? NO
[Software]- Maria Miller? NO
[Raak] - An extinct hominid? NO
[Projoy]- Sajid Javid? NO
[Rosie] - Alive now? n/a

A group of people?

A post or position?

To do with the military?

[Raak] A group of people? NO *a smattering of applause*
[Rosie] A post or position? NO
[Dujon] To do with the military? As much as 'it' is to do with any person or group of people.

*clarification* Without the indefinite article I assumed the one-word opening question was an adjective as opposed to a noun - hence my vague-ish reply.

Humanity? I.e. everyone?

[Raak] Humanity? NO - however, this relates to 'everyone'

A specific individual?

Part of a human?

The human genome?

[Projoy] Specific? NO
[Gusset Login] Part of a human? YES! *audience whooop whoops*
[Raak] The human genome? NO - although given my reply to GL above - more relevant than earlier guesses ;-)

An internal organ?

An organ?

Oops. I meant, a bone?

The bridge of the nose.

hehe

[GL] An internal organ? Arguably - YES, this is classified as an organ in most places [that classify such things].
[Projoy] YES an organ, still ... but definitely not a bone.
[rab] The bridge of the nose? NO - but *audience seems to like all the last few questions*

Is this (or these) particular 'empty' spaces within the human body?

The skin?

[Dujon] Empty spaces? NO
[Raak] The skin? NO

The blood?

Is it found at one specific location in the body?

The appendix?

[Raak] The blood? YES! Need a little more for the AOTC .. *roars of approval from a very excited audience*
[rab] Specific location? As confirmed above - several locations throughout the body.
[Phil] Appendix? Nah :)

The circulatory system?

[GL] Circulatory system? NO

The corpuscles?

[Raak] Corpuscles - NO - although they are relevant ..

Anything to do with the process of healing?

Red blood cells?

The immune system?

No to all - it's about Blood!

Blood BLOOD

Blood vessels?

A blood donation?

Seeing the word so often on the page, the voice in my head is now making it rhyme with "mood". mood ... blood ... food ... blood ... hood ... blood ... wood .. blood ...

Black pudding, then. So there.

[Software] I think Chalky said yes to "human?", so that would be quite some black pudding if it is right.

[Projoy] Not blood vessels
[Raak] Not a blood donation
[Software] Not a human black pudding.

Remember ... it's all about the blood.

blood plasma?

An armful (very nearly)?

Haemoglobin?

Is this a type of blood cell which has various types?

[Raak] Plasma? Not the AOTC
[Projoy] Not an armful
[Rosie] Haemoglobin? Not the AOTC
[Dujon] 'Various types' is a phrase which should lead to the AOTC ... *audience wakes up*

A rhesus negative?

What took you so long ..?

[Projoy] 'A rhesus negative' is about as close as anyone has come to the AOTC, with the exception of Raak who guessed the 'blood' word. As the AOTC is Rhesus Negative Blood I am thrilled to hand over this gargantuan syringe-shaped baton to do with as you wish ..

It may be just a smear to you, mate, but that's life or death to some poor blighter.

OK, here's another.

ANIMAL

Human?

[Rosie] Human? YES.

Alive?

A particular human?

[GL] Not alive.
[Phil] A particular human.

Died this year?

[GL] Mort MMXIV? NO

A pianist?

An actor?

Died this decade?

Involved in "the arts"?

... or even "the sciences"?

[Dujon] Pianist? NO.
[rab] Actor? YES.
[GL] Mort -10? NO.
[Phil] Arts? YES.
[Chalky] Science? NO.

Male?

British?

[Phil, Rosie] British and Male.

Has he starred in a major science fiction movie?

Died post 1990?

[Raak] SF movie? Pretty sure that's a NO.
[Chalky] Died after the Thatcher era? NO.

Died before 1970?

Died before the Heath era? YES.

Shakespearean roles?

Garrick?

Died before 1960?

#obsessingonthedeaththing

[Raak, Rosie] Not known for Shakespeare
[Chalky] Died since 1960.

Kenneth Horne?

Stan Laurel?

Vocalist?

[GL] Stiff Horne? NO.
[Phil] Resting Laurel? Another fine mess: NO.
[Software] If you mean singer, then NO.

Tony Hancock?

The lad himself

[Rosie] It IS Tony Hancock. Please take this radio aerial (and send a tray of bread pudding to Kuala Lumpur).

Part of my early teenage years. On the Home Service, no less, or was it the Light Programme? Can't remember. Now, what shall I do with this thing? Ah, yes -

ABSTRACT and MINERAL.

The Philosopher's Stone?

The last train?

Sonic Screwdriver?

A legendary object?

(Phil) Nothing so concrete.
(Projoy) Nice try, but alas....
(GL) No, not a latter-day Swiss Army penknife.
(Raak) YES, at least in the Abstract sense.

A particular vision?

(Dujon) YES, something specific.

Hidden text

I am now going to bed

Human-made?

(Projoy) NO, not a human creation though the Abstract indirectly involves humans.

Something that might be studied by scientists?

(Projoy) They might, as an incidental, but it's not the flavour of the AOTC.

Anything to do with steam engines?

(Raak) Vocal traction? Not a scintilla, not a smithereen, not e'een a wisp of steam from a leaky cylinder gland.

Is a lake often associated with this?

(Dujon) NO, nothing to do with lakes.

To do with "The Arts"?

A corno da tirarsi?

A brass instrument that Bach specifies in four of his cantatas, but no-one knows exactly what instrument he meant.

(Phil) Nothing to do with The Arts.
(Raak) Not a little trumpet.

Hidden text

(Welsh) corn bach

Metallic?

(Software) NO, not at all metallic.

A natural feature?

(GL) YES, a natural feature.

Giant's Causeway?

(GL) NO, nothing so hexagonal.

In the UK?

(Raak) Mineral - NO, Abstract - Mainly NO but could be.

Is the AOTC a mountain?

(Dujon) NO, not a mountain.

Are the abstract and mineral two distinct (essentially unconnected) meanings of the AOTC?

(CdM) The two are connected, one literal, one figurative.

Is this a weather feature?

(Chalky) Weather? Broadly, YES. *audience stops texting and looks up*

Does the word 'global' appear on the card?

(Dujon) "Global"? NO.

Is this a weather formation that was given a name?

Confused as always.

(Dujon) YES, it has a specific name but this is not normally regarded as a meteorological term.

Is this a form of wind pattern?

I know that I shouldn't but everyone else seems to have knocked off for the weekend.

(Dujon) NO, not a wind pattern.

Is it associated with deserts?

A dust storm?

(GL) Maybe a stronger asssociation with deserts than other places but a long way from exclusively so.
(Softers) Not a dust storm.

Is this 'object' a form of visual 'trickery'?

(Dujon) Visual trickery? NO, very real.

Associated with water or lack of?

(Chalky) Nothing to do with water, most certainly not.

Solar power?

(Chalky) YES, very much so. *audience goes positively orgasmic*

So is that the AOTC ...?

If it isn't I'm not quite sure where to go from here ..

Ra, the Sun God?

Apollo?

The sun?

(Chalky) NO, not the AOTC, but it's about the sun.
(Phil) NO, not Ra, not a God.
(Projoy) NO, not Apollo.
(Gusset Login) Yes, but specifically....?

halo?

Sunshine?

(Software) Not a halo.
(Projoy) The AOTC is much more specific.

A little ray of sunshine?

(Projoy) Rather more than that, it would seem.

A supernova?

A solar flare?

Solar winds?

(Raak, CdM, Projoy) Nothing as technical as these. An earthbound phenomenon, not a scientific term.

A sunbeam?

(Projoy) Not a sunbeam. This is probably more Art than Science.

Is this something like the sight of a huge cumulonimbus lit up by the setting sun?

(Dujon) A nice image that conjures up but alas NO. HINT: The AOTC is the name of a pub.

The Rising Sun?

(Chalky) NO, but very close. Move on a bit. *audience now hyperventilating dangerously*

The Midday Sun?

Thanks to Google

The Sun and Ferret Droppings?

The Setting Sun?

The Sun and Heir?

(Chalky, Projoy,Raak) Not the Sun and Trouserpress, either, for

Phil has it. The midday sun. Well done. Stay indoors.

As soon as I saw it was in Surrey, it had to be right.

Next, for your amusement and intellectual delight, we shall have:

Vegetable & Animal

Edible?

Well, that's a nice easy start :)

[Raak] Edible? YES

A chicken salad sandwich?

[Projoy] Chix Salad Butty? NO

Pub grub?

[Software] Is the AOTC "Pub grub"? NO, but it could be classified as such

Is the animal red meat?

Scampi and chips in the basket ?

very 70s

Is the vegetable potatoes?

A 'lunch' of some kind?

Scotch Broth?

[Rosie] Red meat? According to the USDA, YES, but in my personal opinion, NO.
[Software] Scampi? NO
[Raak] Potatoes? NO
[Dujon] some kind of 'lunch'? YES, it can be.
[Chalky] Scotch Broth? NO *some encouraging applause*

Some form of burger?

[Rosie] Burger? NO

soup?

Does it contain sausage?

Is bacon involved?

[Raak] Soup? YES *more applause*
[Rosie] Inc. sausage? NO
[GL] Bacon involved? NO * A smattering of applause*

Does this involve ham and peas?

[Dujon] Ham & Peas? YES *Considerable applause*

Pea and ham soup?

Does it begin with a...

Ahem.

[Tuj] But 3 hours too late :)
[Raak] Pea and ham soup? YES
Officially, as far as I could find, pork counts as red meat in the USA, and appears to be undefined here. But in my opinion, 3 categories of meat exist :red, white and processed, hence my awkward answer earlier.
*passes a breadstick to Raak*

The next is ANIMAL.

Is bacon involved?

Does this animal consume bacon?

[GL] Bacon is not involved.
[CdM] Does not normally consume bacon.

Is it human?

Alive?

[Gusset Login] Not human.
[Rosie] Alive.

One particular animal?

[Rosie] Um...yes and no.

An animal foetus perhaps?

[Dujon] Not a foetus.

A swarm of bees attacking Topshop?

Is it a parasite?

[GL] Not a swarm of bees.
[Dujon] Yes! It is a parasite.

A louse?

[Software] Not a louse.

Does it begin with P?

Does not begin with P.

Is this an internal parasite (as opposed to a tick or its ilk)?

[Dujon] Not an internal parasite.

Is it a Benefit Scrounger?

[Chalky] * laughter and applause* Yes, I suppose it is in a way.

A mosquito?

[Rosie] Not a mosquito.

Was this once used by doctors as a remedy for various ills?

[Dujon] Not a cureall.

Tick?

[GL] Not a tick.

Does it have a relationship with bats?

[Dujon] Not below the phylum level.

A bedbug?

Flea?

[CdM,Software] Not a bedbug or a flea.

Does the average Morniverser harbour this creature?

[Rosie] The average Morniverser probably does not harbour this creature.
Hint: think bigger.

Is this more likely to be found on something other than a human?

[Dujon] Yes, does not parasitise humans.

Some sort of worm?

[Projoy] Not a worm.
Hint: bigger!

Do the parasite and its host live in water?

[Dujon] Not in water.

A vampire bat?

Dracula? No.

Cuckoo?

[Software] **riotous applause!!** Yes, a cuckoo! But which one?

The first cuckoo of spring?

[Projoy] Precisely so!

My mind went straight to Delius as soon as cuckoos came up.

The next is MINERAL.

Well it would wouldn't it? Dear old Fred.

Is the mineral natural?

Sorry, I forgot I was supposed to ask a question.

Is it metal?

Is it edible/potable?

[Duj] Natural? NO
[GL] Metal? NO
[Chalky] Edible? NO * a reflective chuckle from an audient*

Stony?

So close, oh so close :(

[Software] Stony? NO, this falls on stony ground.
Sorry I pipped you. The late worm catches the bird, I guess.

Plastic?

[GL] YES, a form of plastic.

Decorative?

A form of packaging?

[Sw] Decorative? YES, mainly
[Rosie] Packaging? NO

Lycra?

[GL] Lycra? NO *scattered applause*

A clothing fabric?

Ladies clothing oriented?

Latex?

Spray-on jeans of the sort that have lately become fashionable?

[Phil] Clothing? YES
[Software] Ladies'? NO
[GL] Rubber? NO
[Raak] Sprayon? NO

Is this pants/trouser support?

[Duj] Keeps your panties on? NO.

Is it a codpiece?

Though I suppose that could arguably be described as "packaging"...

[blame] Codpiece? NO *audience applause*

Is it used in the undergarment department?

[Phil] Undies? NO

Cricket box?

Not sure if that's undies or overies. Now I'm working on a pun involving overs... Meantime I'm emboldened to guess by the applause, if not by the html, but also aware they'll applaud anything remotely saucy that lot...

[blame] Overies unlikely to be found in a cricket box, shurely? NO.

Rubber?

[Raak] Rubber? NO, definitely synthetic.

*googles* Oh, there is such a thing as synthetic rubber. Anyway, it's not that.

Is the item visible on a normally-clothed person?

a hat of some sort?

[Rosie] I don't know about "normally clothed", but YES, it would be visible on a person wearing it.
[Chalky] Hat? NO.

A condom?

A wet suit?

A superhero's cape?

[Chalky] Une lettre? NON
[Phil] Wet suit? NO *an audient smiles, teasingly*
[Raak] Cape? NO

Hi-Vis jacket?

Is it work-related apparel?

[Software] Jobsworth uniform? NO
[Raak] Job uniform? NO

An umbrella hat?

[Raak] If you want to get ahead? NO.

Is this designed to keep the wearer dry?

Mainly decorative you say ... ?

[Duj] For dryness? NO
[Chalky] Decorative? YES.

Is it made of neoprene?

A substantial fascinator?

[Phil] Neoprene? NO
[Raak] Fascinator? NO

Does this item have any lascivious connections?

Comedy apron?

Is this normally worn above the waist?

[Rosie] Naughty? NO
[Chalky] Apron? NO
[Dujon] Above the waist? YES.

below the neck?

[Chalky] Below neck? YES AND NO.

Scarf?

[Soft] Scarf? NO.

Is it a form of necklace?

... or necktie maybe?

[Dujon] Necklace? NO
[Chalky] Necktie? YES, a form of... *applause*

A noose?

[Raak] Synthetic noose? NO.

Bow Ties are cool

Is it? A dickie bow?

[blame] Not a dickybird from the audience for that, I'm afraid.

Cravat?

[Software] Cravat? NO.

PVC collar for the BDSM community?

,[Phil] Of Human Bondage? NO. As per Chalky's answer, the AotC is a form of necktie, or 'tie', as we Brits call it.

A policeman's clip-on tie?

In that case...

[Phil] Clip-on tie? NO.

A clerical collar?

Not female wear. .. and mainly decorative?

Just so's we're all on the same hymn sheet ...

[Rosie] Dog collar? NO
[Chalky] YES, a form of male (by convention), decorative necktie.

"Bolo" tie?

[Phil] Bolo? X.

One of those hideous things Texans wear?

[Soft] A "bolo" tie, as I believe they're called? NO

A kipper tie?

Is that why they applauded codpiece? For the cod, rather than - as it were - the piece...

[blame] YES! the words on the card are "a nylon kipper tie", and the fish connection was indeed the reason for the applause. *turns the baton around itself twice, folds the end through the gap, passes it through the loop, tightens, and hands it over to blamelewis*

I was fishing from the shoulders of giants...

Yay, whee, oh cripes do I have to do one now?

Errrrr... ANIMAL

A human?

A Duck?

The Duck-Man of Oswestry?

[Projoy] Oh I do hope that's right - we did a project on him at school.