mc5 - AVMA Take 2

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AVMA Take 2

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Yes, it's another round of that classic guessing game - Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, Abstract [or any combination thereof]. This effort - '03/'04 should address any queries, but then again, may just serve to confuse and baffle which some might say is the point of the game. Patience, integrity and a decent search engine may be useful ....

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Is it a BBC 'something'?

[Raak] No.
[Chalky] No.
I did give you a clue before. Remember, the BBC didn't make the BBC Micro - it was made by Acorn. So, what you might be looking for here is another (retro, we've established) computer made by Acorn, of which there were several.

Was this model named after a minute 'object'? - there's two I can think of.

Acorn Atom?

.. the one that was launched in 1980, she says knowledgeably.
Google? Wassat then :-)

Acorn Archimedes

Absolutely fascinated when reading the story about what they did back then

[Dujon] Yes.
[Chalky] No, too early.
[Inkspot] No, too recent.

The clues, together with Inkspot's posting of the history, strongly suggest the Electron.

[Raak] Absolutely so. It is indeed the Acorn Electron. CORRECT! It's Raak's turn.

The next is VEGETABLE

Is it edible?

Is it edible?

Sorry.

Is it commonly found indoors?

Is it a vegetable?

Is it something that has been processed?

[Darren] No.
[Tuj] It can be.
[Chalky] No.
[CdM] Yes.

Is it an item of furniture?

[Darren] No.

A crucifix?

YES

Game to Irouleguy.

Wow, that was quick.

Hell's bells!

I suspect telepathy!

Raak set it on Good Friday - what else could it have been? Do I sense someone else who grew up Catholic? Anyway, our next subject was also a cause of anguish and tension, albeit on a much smaller scale. It's VEGETABLE/MINERAL, ABSTRACT and the colour's a sort of clue.

Anything to do with Ireland?

Desultory Church of Scotland, actually.

Raak] Anything to do with Ireland? A very faint connection, but a misleading one
CoS? Is that like Anglican?

The green eye of the little yellow god?

Anglican? Certainly not, Anglicans are almost Papist idolaters from the point of view of the CoS. On the other hand, it can't really be described as Protestant either. It's full, Sunday best title has the word "Episcopalian" in it somewhere, but I don't have much idea what that means. Just one of the meaningless background elements of childhood.

Raak] The green eye of the little yellow god? No - actually 'clue' may be something of an exaggeration. More of a set of lateral thinking connections, really. The colour's really not the best way to get there.

Is it the title of a book?

Does it have punctuation in it?

Is it a fictional object?

Is this something to do with grass?

Inkspot] Is it the title of a book? No
Tuj] Does it have punctuation in it? Yes (odd question)
Darren] Is it a fictional object? Yes
Dujon] Is this something to do with grass? No. Really, I'm sorry I ever mentioned the colour.

Is the vegetable part wood?

Would it be found underground?

Irouleguy] Of course an odd question! What else would be expected though? Anyway, could be more useful than the green thing.

Raak] Is the vegetable part wood? Yes
Tuj] Would it be found underground? No
It was a comment, not a criticism, and it probably will be more useful than the green thing.

Is the mineral part metal fixings of some sort?

Raak] Is the mineral part metal fixings of some sort? Yes, but there's other (more important) mineral parts as well.

Is this a tool with a wooden handle and metal business end?

Is it part of the folklore of a particular people?

Is this a weapon?

Is the apostrophe a possessive one?

Raak] Is this a tool with a wooden handle and metal business end? No
Inkspot] Is it part of the folklore of a particular people? No
Dujon] Is this a weapon? No
Tuj] Is the apostrophe a possessive one? Yes

Harry Potter's staff?

Is the mineral a gem stone?

Raak] Harry Potter's staff? No, but thinking along the right lines
Inkspot] Is the mineral a gem stone? No *audience launches into karaoke version of Michelle Shocked's 'Anchorage'*

The Mona Lisa's Smile

Does have connections with Lords of the Ring?

'Cos if it does I'll back out as I know sweet nuffin' about it.

Inkspot] The Mona Lisa's Smile? No
Dujon] Does it have connections with The Lord of the Rings? No

Does the fictional work date from 1950 or later?

Is it from a television series?

Does it have any magical properties?

Raak] Does the fictional work date from 1950 or later? No
Inkspot] Is it from a television series? No
Darren] Does it have any magical properties? No

Do we want a clue?

Is the object man made?

Prospero's staff?

With Inkspot's and Raak's questions immediately above to be answered, the state of the nation seems to be (I hope I've not missed something):

It is not/does not:

The eye of the little yellow god
The title of a book
A tool with wooden handle and metal business end
Have anything to do with grass
Not found underground
Part of fokelore of a particlar people
A weapon
Harry Potter's staff - but the right line of thinking
Contain a gem stone
The Mona Lisa smile
Have connection with Lord of the Rings
From a television series
Have magical properties

It is/does:

Have a very faint connection with Ireland but this would be misleading
Have punctuation in it
Fictional
Wood in the vegetable part
Contain a possessive apostrophe
Have metal fixings of some sort - but there's (more important) mineral parts as well
Pre-date 1950

Inkspot] Is the object man made? Yes
Raak] Prospero's staff? No, but the answer could be said to lie on a point midway between two of Raak's guesses
Dujon] A good summary

Is it somebody's staff?

Darren] Is it somebody's staff? No

Was it supposed to belong to a particular person?

Does it have a knob on the end?

Darren] Was it supposed to belong to a particular person? Not sure what this means. It does belong to a particular person - the form of the answer is {person's name}'s {object}.
Raak] Does it have a knob on the end? I refer the honourable gentleman to my last answer but one.

Is it any sort of ship?

Was the owner a real person?

[Irouleguy] Re: the "particular person" question. That was what I meant.

Is it too heavy for a single person to lift?

Is it something that is worn?

Raak] Is it any sort of ship? No
Darren - Was the owner a real person? No
CdM - Is it too heavy for a single person to lift? Good question - yes
Inkspot - Is it something that is worn? No

Is it something large enough that a human could get inside?

Is it a building?

Darren] Is it something large enough that a human could get inside? No
Raak] Is it a building? No

Is the object made from stone?

is it connected with transport?

Would it help me if I understood your reference to "Anchorage"?

'Cos, like, maybe I'm being dumb, but I know that song pretty well, and yet I have no idea what you were getting at...

Was Shakespeare the author of the fictional work in question?

Inkspot] Is the object made from stone? No
Chalky] Is it connected with transport? No
CdM - Would it help me if I understood your reference to "Anchorage"? No.
Sorry - it was just a joke about being cold. It's the only song I know about Alaska.
CdM - Was Shakespeare the author of the fictional work in question? No

Could a human wrap his/her arms around it?

When you said "Harry Potter's staff" was the "right line of thinking" did you mean something more than that it was of the form {person's name}'s {object}?

Is it time for me to shut up and let someone else ask a question?

19th century?

Is the person's name more than one word?

CdM] Could a human wrap his/her arms around it? Almost certainly not
CdM] When you said "Harry Potter's staff" was the "right line of thinking" did you mean something more than that it was of the form {person's name}'s {object}? No
CdM] Is it time for me to shut up and let someone else ask a question? Not at all - they're good questions and it's not that busy today
Raak] 19th century? Yes
Darren] Is the person's name more than one word? Yes

A clue for Friday afternoon

The person in the answer shares a name with the author of the fictional work.

Lady Windermere's Fan?

Is the fictional work - a film?

Is the fictional work - a play?

Raak] Lady Windermere's Fan? No, but in several respects the closest approach yet.
Chalky] Is the fictional work - a film? Not originally, but it has been filmed.
Chalky] Is the fictional work - a play? No

Was the fictional work originally written in English?

Was the film made before 1950?

Is there more than one filmed version (including cinematic and television versions, if applicable)?

Is it an item of furniture?

Is it anything to do with Oscar Wilde, or in fact Dorian Gray, and am I allowed to ask more than one question at a time?

Tom Brown's Schooldays?

As abstract as you get

buit it's not the title of a book.....*retracts already abstract answer*

CdM] Was the fictional work originally written in English? Yes
Inkspot] Was the film made before 1950? No, for all versions (see below)
Darren] Is there more than one filmed version (including cinematic and television versions, if applicable)? Yes, according to IMBd three (one cinematic, two television). Obligatory trivia - the actor playing the person in the answer in the first TV version was once in Blake's seven, and also has a connection to the colour clue.
Raak] Is it an item of furniture? Yes, though that's not its primary function
ZK] Is it anything to do with Oscar Wilde, or in fact Dorian Gray, and am I allowed to ask more than one question at a time? No, and no, and apparently yes
ZK] Tom Brown's Schooldays? I refer the honourable gentleman to his subsequent answer

Is the entire answer a phrase that is in reasonably common use?

(For example, do you think it would be an acceptable solution in a crossword?)

CDM] Is the entire answer a phrase that is in reasonably common use? No - it'd only really be acceptable in a crossword if the whole crossword was themed around the author.

Is the author Dickens?

Is the person male?

is it a musical instrument?

Regarding the mineral part: (a) is it in part glass? (b) you said there are "metal fixings" but are there also other metal parts?

is it a timepiece of any kind?

Raak] Is the author Dickens? No
Darren] Is the person male? No
ZK]Is it a musical instrument? Yes
CdM] Regarding the mineral part: (a) is it in part glass? (b) you said there are "metal fixings" but are there also other metal parts? (a) No; (b) Yes
ZK] Is it a timepiece of any kind? No

Is it a piano?

I can't think of anyone who has a piano except in Jane Austen novels so I don't know why I'm asking!

Having a guess

Did Jane Fairfax have a piano?

*applauds*

You have definitely got the right person (having checked all the imdb clues). And I am guessing that the piano is right as well.

ZK - YES!!! Congratulations! I'd thought after the last round of answers that someone must get it soon. The colour clue is that everyone thought that the piano was a gift to Jane Fairfax from the Dixons, which leads by association to Dixon of Dock Green, which Ania Marson, who played Jane Fairfax in the first TV version of Emma, appeared in a number of times. I did say it wasn't so much a clue as a lateral association which wouldn't help...
I'll shut up now and hand over the baton to ZK.

thank god for that

I don't know why, but I developed an obsession with this round! I'm glad my brain worked the right way....eventually.....shame on me because I've only read Emma once! I do own that version, though. I think I got it for my 13th birthday. I must say I didn't get any of the Dixon clues. Anyway...

What was the irish connection?

I guess this is ABSTRACT with ANIMAL connections.

A constellation?

[Raak] No. But cool :)

Are the connections to a specific animal?

[Tuj] Yes.

Would this animal have appeared in an animated film and a musical?

[Dujon]Certainly, but I suspect you're barking up the wrong tree.

Toto?

Is the animal human?

[Raak] No.
[Gusset Login] Yes! Yay :)

Are they female?

Are they best known for the animated film/musical?

Sorry, the Irish connection. JF had been with the Dixons in Ireland before she came to Highbury.

Anything to do with Gilbert & Sullivan?

Is it connected with religion?

Anything to do with Walt Disney?

Would you like an extra strong mint?

Female?

What are your major influences?

Is it one human or a group of them?

Could you hold this for a second?

Can I quote you?

Did you threaten to overrule him?

Was the person written about before 1900?

Did you *threaten* to overrule him?

Would you like a cup of tea and a Hob-nob?

Is there any truth to the rumors?

Did you THREATEN to overrule him?

Can I count on your vote?

I say, are you still there?

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