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Animal-Vegetable-Mineral-Abstract: The Pants Memorial Game
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The chairperson selects an object/idea/whatever and announces whether it's animal, vegetable, mineral, and/or abstract. The others have to ask questions to figure out what it is. Whomever guesses the object correctly is given the chair for the next round; repeat ad nauseam.
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snorgle - no. Chalky - YES. Raak - (1)no,(2)no. Rosie - to a point. Inkspot - sometimes.
[Inkspot] I just took it to mean something which has been constructed or formulated by the human mind.
...and naturally, all games fall into that category.
Monopoly?
Brain hurts...
Is it a type of race (in the sporting sense)?
Is it "Twister"?
Charades?
Is it "Scrabble"?
<thinks> If not this then... </thinks>
Pop Idol?
A stab in the dark...
Musical chairs?
Or sunnink.
"Give Us A Clue?"
Not . . . you have to give us a clue, Darren, but the Lionel/Una show.
Is it a team game?
And to think Wales is seeded above England in the Rugby World Cup!! mmmm sounds right to me
Rosie - CORRECT.
Rosie got it! I thought it would take you longer! So anyway, Rosie is now in the chair for the next game.
Applause
Well done Rosie!
I have one in mind... Start asking....
It's Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, any combination thereof, or Abstract by itself. The answer is two words - the indefinite article and a noun.
Oops... sorry, Rosie, I hadn't realised the winner gets to go. I withdraw.
Awww! gil! You had a special one all thought up!
Mornington Chairs
[Darren] What's the unclear relationship between musical chairs and Mornington Crescent?
Musical Mornington
Raak] Perhaps Darren is unaware of the last time Musical Mornington Chairs was played, back in the late 1970's, when it was played by some very enthusiatic Chelsea football supporters on there way back from another local London village derby.
Unfortunately the most important part of the ie getting rid of a seat at each station was miss interpereted by the London Transport Police as wanton vandalism.
As a result, this unfortunate event is usually glossed over and not normally discussed in polite company.
[Raak] I thought they did play musical chairs on ISIHAC once, or did I imagine that?
This next object is ABSTRACT with Animal connections
(Inkspot) Supported the Blues since 1956. Don't go these days - prices are absurd and you can't even stand up.
Is it a mythical being?
Eager as a salamander.
Is it an action?
[Darren] I thought you were obliquely referring to/associating it with Humph as a 'musical chair[man]' of MC.
The Cheshire Cat?
Is it a symbol or emblem, e.g. the Austrian two-headed eagle?
Is it the Welsh Dragon?
Standing.
Chalky - No. LotUs - No. Software - Nice guess, but no. Raak - No.
Concentrate on the Abstract. The Animal connection is just a help. BTW this is very early for me; it's 11.30 am. Back in a couple of hours. :-)
An event?
 
Is it solid?
one o' clock time for lunch
Is it a genus, species, or other taxonomic division?
Gil and Raak: Both No. Inkspot: Can't be - it's abstract!
(Snorgle) Apologies. I missed your contribution. Can't think why but there you go. But the answer is no. :-)
Can it be heard?
you'll be telling me next that Welsh Dragons don't exist.
Is it something you can do?
Is it musical?
Rosie]the previous 'abstract' musical chairs has requires several solid objects and corporeal bodies, I was attempting to discern whether your object has a physical presence, in the same way as a smile:)
Is it an EMOTION?
A mares nest?
Are we looking for some kind of mental picture?
Inkspot - No. Darren - No. Bigsmith - No. Chalky - NO!. Software - No.
(Inkspot)It requires the presence of an "animal", i.e. the broad definition, for this abstraction to be manifested.
Sounds like a Pigs Ear to me...
Software - Another good'un, squire, but like Thames Trains, you're on the wrong track.
Allergies.
Although it has vegetable connections as well....
Is it some sort of mythical beast?
... as a ...
Is it a human condition?
Is it ENTERTAINING?
Dr Q - No. Tuj - No. Kim - Yes, sort of. Chalky - No. Mildly interesting to the observant, perhaps.
Would this normally be considered to be 'indelicate' in polite company?
Bringing down the level of decorum.
Is it (a) thought?
Not sure if this doesn't actually qualify under one of Darren's earlier questions.
RECAP:
It is NOT a mythical being
It is NOT an action
It is NOT the Cheshire Cat
It is NOT a symbol or emblem
It is NOT a Welsh dragon
It is NOT an event
It is NOT solid
It CANNOT be heard
It is NOT musical
It is NOT something you can do
It is NOT an emotion
It is NOT a mare's nest
It is NOT a pig's ear
It is NOT an allergy
It is NOT a mythical beast
It is NOT REALLY entertaining

It IS ... sort of ... a human condition

Is it something than can affect EVERYONE?
Trying to narrow down the options
Poor? Rich? Hungry? Thirsty?
 
Is it something most of us have encountered/experienced/had?
This is a tricky one.
Sorry Chalky - overlapped with your question there, somehow didn't spot it.
Dujon - No. Lotus - No. Chalky - No. gil - No. Breadmaster - Yes/No/No.
Anthromorphism?
Wild guessing.
Is the animal aspect merely corroborative?
Boolbar - No. Kim - No, it's fundamental
This is a property/feature/characteristic of some humans. Logically it should also apply to some animals but I'm not sure how well documented this is.
Would it have a negative impact on those who've ENCOUNTERED it?
[BM] No worries. At least you got a positive reply.
A dark horse?
Assuming not the one I backed in the 2:00 at Lingfield
Is it some kind of mental phenomenon?
[Chalky] Not necessarily a helpful one though...
Is it done with other?
Up a gum tree without a clue at the moment
Is it left-handedness / the brain control feature of single hand/paw dominance?
Don't know if this reads too much into Rosie's statement
LOTUS HAS IT! LEFT-HANDEDNESS.
I'm left-handed myself. Very sinister. Carry on LotUs. BTW Are you still in Aberdeen Road?
Well thought out, LotUS :-)
Wow!
Again, Wow!
The next is ABSTRACT with mineral connections
Re clue: It could probably be the other way round as well but we'll argue about that after somebody has got it. (I suspect it will be obtained quickly).

[Chalky] *slightly abashed* thank you very much. Although Rosie's last clue was the key pointer I'm afraid.
[BM] I agree it was an extremely good one.
[Rosie] Yes, I still dwell nary 10-15 mins down the road from you (if memory serves correctly). I'm working in Purley now having left the hallowed halls in the Fens.

Rain?
Trying to score from my own penalty area, so to speak. (LotUs) Hamsey Green, Warlingham end.
Is it Kryptonite?
Is it the Philosopher's Stone?
Bravo BtD
Heaven?
Hell?
If this doesn't work, presumably some more general questions would be an idea ;)
Rosie - No; Bob - No; Tuj - No; Chalky - No; Darren - No
Darren] I think that would be a very good idea, although Rosie's is the only guess that is even in the same country as this <whatever>. And possibly yours. *smiles cryptically*
Is it fictional?
Bob - No...
...but it depends on what you mean by fictional. Not in the conventional sense of 'fictional' anyway.
Scotch mist?
Is it PLEASANT as in ENJOYABLE?
Is it hypothetical?
Software - No; Chalky - Not really; Raak - No
Chalky - the question doesn't really apply but you wouldn't be enjoying the results of this (or you might, I don't know ;) )
Noah's Flood?
Raak - No
The Midas Touch?
snorgle - No
You can tell I've got no work to do at the moment.
Is it a single individual (like the Philosopher's Stone, assuming there was just one) or a general thing (like rain)?
Breadmaster - that's not really a yes or no question but it is a single, specific thing/concept/idea/abstraction
Is it anything to do with the four ELEMENTS?
Does it involve movement?
Chalky - Yes; Raak - Yes (in a technical sense)
Is the Abstact whatsit dependant on the mineral connection?
The OZONE LAYER?
Could it be described as a phenomenon?
Inkspot - Yes; Chalky - No; Rosie - No (but then it depends on your definition - you may be more easily astounded ;) )
A Weather Forecast?
The Northern Lights?
Of the four elements is water the mineral connction?
Quickly going down a blind alley, anyone for checking the other Elements? or is that just a distraction?
Anything to do with fire?
Chalky - No; Software - No; Inkspot - Yes; Breadmaster - No
Crying?
Precipitation?
 
Is it clouds?
Chalky - No; gil - No; Inkspot - No
The story so far...
It is ABSTRACT with mineral connections ("It could probably be the other way round as well but we'll argue about that after somebody has got it")
It is not Rain, Kryptonite, the Philosopher’s Stone, Heaven or Hell, Scotch Mist, Noah's Flood, the Midas Touch, the Ozone Layer, a Weather Forecast or the Northern Lights
Not fictional, but it depends on what you mean by fictional. Not in the conventional sense of 'fictional'
It is not really pleasant or enjoyable (“you wouldn't be enjoying the results of this”)
It is not hypothetical
It is a single, specific thing/concept/idea/abstraction
Is has something to do with the four ELEMENTS
In a technical sense it involves movement
The Abstract whatsit is dependant on the mineral connection
It Could not generally it be described as a phenomenon unless you are easily astounded
Of the four elements water is the mineral connection
It is not to do with fire, crying, precipitation or clouds.
A Baptism?
Is it some sort of current like the transatlantic drift?
Assuming this 'abstract' is tangible.
Chalky - No
And here's your one for free: it's not tangible
oh and Bob - No
Drought?
Does it exist *solely* on Earth?
 
Chalky - No; DrQ - No
Anything to do with ice?
 
DrQ - yes and no (depends on how technical you want to get but you're in roughly the right ballpark)
Post-nasal drip?
I only just stopped myself putting Giant alien snowball up there.. :)
The North Pole?
Be it geographic or geomagnetic.
Is it a geographical feature? (well, it worked once...)
I'm puzzled how it can be a single individual thing but not be exclusive to a single planet...
Is this a physical law?
Giant alien snowball?
snorgle] One man's trash is another man's treasure, and all that...
Damn you LotUS, stop working and get back here!
If you get it, I'll scream.. :)
The Ice Age?
A comet?
Fog/mist?
(LotUs) What I meant by a phenomenon earlier didn't mean "phenomenal", i.e. incredible, outrageous etc, but just something that is observed or happens, eg any aspect of weather.
An isobar
snorgle- No; DrQ - No; Breadmaster - No; Darren - Sort of (I wouldn't say 'law' as such); Tuj - Nope; Chalky - No; Bob - No; Rosie - No, Dujon - No
[Rosie] Ah sorry, I misunderstood. Okay, well the result is observable/happens.
Darren is now the closest by far. Geez - Im glad I went for this one and not the one I thought was really fiendish.
Gravity?
I'm a very serious type, doncha know?
Does it occur on the moon as well as the planet?
Dujon - No; Inkspot - I'm sure it would hold on the moon although probably slightly altered from how we know it
Actually, Inkspot - Yes and...
the addition is :...what it is would be the same on the moon but how we know it would be altered (although I can't tell you how) - if that makes any sense.
Is it metaphorical?
My brain hurts...
The freezing point of water?
Bob - Nope; Raak - No
[Raak] ooohh!!
Dew point
Wild stab.
plump - Nope
The boiling point of water?
Golden Shower?
Coat!
Boolbar!!
Boolbar - The attendent will show you the way; Chalky - YES!!!!!!
DING DING DING!!!! Congratulations Miss Chalky!!! You have correctly guessed the boiling point of water. The floor is now yours m'lady.
(Raak)Oh so close!
It was going to be the sublimation point of iodine but then I realised that would probably have got me expelled from these boards ;)
O wow!
I'll admit that although I climbed on the shoulders of the estimable Raak for the final thrust - I did work hard on that one [witness - nauseating number of questions] so I don't feel too abashed.
Give us a mo ...
'the sublimation point of iodine'
LotUS] be glad you did not opt for Boolbars suggestion.
OK - New One - *A N I M A L*
Bring on the questions . . .
Is it a living creature?
we'll start nice and simple
Is the whole thing an animal?
though I do fancy a leg of lamb this Sunday.
Is ia an Aardvaark?
I've got this Wildlife dictionary on my lap, you see.....
Human?
(LotUs) Iodine doesn't have a sublimation point (at atmospheric pressure). Melts at 114°C and boils at 184°C. And I hope you've specified a pressure for the boiling point of water. At the top of Everest water boils at 70°C at which temperature it takes several days (by extrapolation) to boil an egg and tea is crap. Sorry to be such an arse-aching pedant but I've got a reputation to keep up. -:)
An air breather?
(Rosie) yes, I am aware of Boyle's Law, STP and such stuff (I did study Chemistry at uni), that's why I gave the clue as abstract because the answer was more 'the concept of the boiling point of water' rather than an actual figure (which would be an accepted standard against an arbitrary scale). Which is also part of why expected wrangling to take place.
LotUS - NO. Inkspot - whole thing YES - but an animal [as opposed to a human] NO. Kim - NO! Rosie - YES. Bob - Not any more, obviously.
Wrangling is good.
John Wayne?
are they recently deceased (last 20 years)?
Is it Otzi the Bog Man?
A mummy?
addendum
That is, not one's mother, you uderstand.
Is it fictitious?
BobtheDog - No. LotUS - No. Raak - if I didn't know better I would say you're being a silly-billy :-) Software - No and No. Darren - No.
sorrysorrysorry Raak - please forgive me for poaching your water.
Darren - if it WERE fictitious, wouldn't that make it abstract?
Was this human British?
 
Female?
DrQ - No. BobtheDog - No.
American?
probably my last q 'til tomorrow - d'oh
LotUS - erm ... broadly speaking YES.
Montezuma?
Singular as opposed to a grouping?
Chief Sitting Bull?
Born on the continent now known as North America?
Raak - No. Inkspot - YES. LotUS - No. Ibid - YES.
An American President?
Bob - No
Canadian?
 
An entertainer?
Lived during the 20th century?
Was it a native American?
Oh, by the way, I wouldn't call a fictitious person or animal necessarily abstract.
Albert Johnson, the Mad Trapper of Rat River?
Malcom X?
Thinking that he may be born in America but perhaps considers themselves to be maybe Hispanic or Jewish or black / American
DrQ - by parentage YES. Bob - not really known as such, but IMHO he WAS entertaining as a person. Tuj - YES. Darren - see DrQ. Raak - I'm SO sorry - how can I make it up to you . .
Now - I've had 4 [and a sneaky half] very very very large glasses of vinoplonko since I was here before - I've jus got home - DO tell me if I'm performing inappropriately - coz i's a sherious business this chairing a game thingystuff . . . and I would HATE to let you all down - *sobs* Oh god! You are ALL my beshtest friends and . . .
Inkspot - No [which you can now see because I shimulposted . .]
a politician?
Your performance is just fine.. ;)
snorgle - No.
Thank you dearest schnorgy worgy
Were they intentionally entertaining?
you're welcome.. ;)
snorgs - he was *intentionally* something else which is yet to be guessed - but as I said before - IMO he WAS entertaining, but perhaps not to all
Were other people involved in doing this IYHO entertaining thing?
hmmm
snorgle - I dare say
ahem
William Shatner?
This is moving faster than usual..
snorgs - he isn't dead, is he?
Certainly is.
Was it sexual?
It would explain his acting skills. I just had to read all that to work out that he is dead. So, a dead 20th century man of canadian extraction (ouch!) who did something that might be considered entertaining.
Involved in sport?
[snorgle] Where'd that last question come from?
Maybe I should go to bed. I meant was what he did sexual (as it amused Chalky).
[snorgle] Unless he was a eunuch, I'd say so. :)
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Tired, so no longer making sense.. g'night! (Just as well I previewed that, it was toooo long!)
A musician, of any kind?
Up late, as usual.
Pierre Trudeau?
Snorgle - No. DrQ - No. Rosie - No.
snorgle's summary above is OK - but don't be misled by the 'entertaining' part - I refer to my comments to BtD further back.
Raak - I think we eliminated 'politician' earlier , so No
Was he black?
We're getting there!
Breadmaster - No.
A scientist?
Or an artist? (of the non-entertaining kind)
Darren - No. Artist [as in painter?] No.
A sportsman?
Raak - " I refer the honourable member to my previous reply ..."
**brief recap**
So a dead, somewhat entertaining gentleman of Canadian parentage who wasn't a sportsman, scientist, artist, or politican. He lived in the 20th Century but died more than 20 years ago.
Lenny Bruce?
"I'm sorry if I'm not very funny tonight, but I'm not a comedian, I'm Lenny Bruce."
DrQ - No.
Recap fine, but forget the 'entertaining' part of it - that was more of an 'aside'.
It's why I suggested Lenny Bruce.
Was he the bloke who wrote the Kinsey Report, i.e. Kinsey?
Was he a published writer at all?
Rosie - No. Darren - YES!
At last - a breakthrough. Bring on the literati . . .
Ernest Hemingway?
Uh-oh...
I would check if he had Canadian parentage, but then that'd kinda take the fun out of it a bit. Plus, I think I'd make a mad chair.
Of course, I did mean bad chair. And no I wasn't talking about carpentry.
Is he best known as a writer of fiction?
Is he on this list?
Tuj - No. Inkspot - Yes ... but. Raak - ahem.
Inkspot - His work is considered somewhere between fiction and non-fiction.
Raak - He was American, but of Canadian extraction, so he may or may not be on your list.
Was he a columnist for a newspaper?
The output of some political sketch writers blurr the line between fact and fiction.
Inkspot - No ... but
...I'm sure he wrote magazine articles from time to time as a sideline.
Mark Twain?
Who's got a scanner? TWAIN = Thing Without An Interesting Name, so I'm told. :-)
Was he best known as an essayist?
That is, as opposed to a novelist. Knowing what you have on your bookshelves I leave the poetry until later.... :-)
Edgar Allen Poe?
His parents were travelling actors, but I dunno if they were Canadian...
Jack Kerouac?
He had French-Canadian parents.
Died in the first half of last century?
Rosie - No. Dujon - not really. Bob the dog - No.
.... but ... wait for it ... *drum roll*
Darren - YES! YES YES YES!!
Well done, me old mate - here's the man ... if anyone's interested.
Underlining Darren's victoreeeee
Crikey
*General applouse for Darren*
And some applause too, even...
This new one will be ABSTRACT, although arguably there are animal, vegetable and mineral connections..
Thanks all!
An organisation?
Chalky sounds very excitable these days. I wonder what's going on.
Fictional?
Incidentally, if the subject were, say, Frodo, would that count as abstract as well as animal? I would assume that "fictional" and "abstract" mean quite different things, but it looks to me like there might be a bit of fuzziness between them in the context of this game.
Not Frodo, is it?
Worth a try.
Einstein's Theory of Relativity?
Rosie - no. Breadmaster - yes and no. Tuj - no. Raak - no.
Breadmaster's answer is vague because it depends how you interpret it.
(a) God?
of any religion..
Is there or could there be more than one?
is it a huan concept?
Is it written down in some form?
Is it an event?
Magic?
Is it something whose existence is controversial, so that some people believe it is real but others believe it is only fictional?
Controversy already. Excellent!
snorgle - no. Raak - yes and no. Software - yes. Bob - yes. Inkspot - could be considered as one, I suppose. Boolbar - no. Breadmaster - hehehehehe, no.
Again, Raak's answer depends on how I interpret his question.
I assumed Software means "human."
The American Constitution?
Yes it was ,BTW.
Is it more than 100 years old?
Does it have a colour?
The Bible?
The Koran?
I think Raak's right.
Software - no. Inkspot - no. Boolbar - not a specific one, no. Raak - no. Breadmaster - no.
Raak and Breadmaster - you're way off!
And don't get misled by the "in written form" thing. It *has* been in written form, but that's not its main form.
Is it a subject of study?
Huxley - well, someone probably has studied it in academic terms at some time or another, but as a general rule, no.
Is it instructional in any way?
Is it a film?
Chalky - no. Big Dave - YES.
Big Dave has made the first major breakthrough.
released in the last two years?
Bob the dog - no.
Is it in colour? (as opposed to black and white)
Frankenstein?
Does it star anyone who has been a governor of California?
 
Boolbar - yes. Raak - no. DrQ - no.
Documentary?
 
gil - no.
was it made in America?
Is it funny?
Is it of the horror genre?
Bob - yes. Raak - yes (of course, different people have different opinions). Tuj - yes.
Is it Scream?
Though I equally laughed at The Blair Witch Project.
Evil Dead 2
Funniest horror movie I ever saw.
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