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Animal-Vegetable-Mineral-Abstract: The Pants Memorial Game
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The chairperson selects an object/idea/whatever and announces whether it's animal, vegetable, mineral, and/or abstract. The others have to ask questions to figure out what it is. Whomever guesses the object correctly is given the chair for the next round; repeat ad nauseam.
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Does it involve eggs?
[GL] All the recipes I found through Google do (which was a surprise to me, but I know little of how they are made).
Is it nomally eaten hot?
Rakk]A hen lays them! :p
Is normally frozen?
[Inkspot] So do ducks and most lizards
[Inkspot] No.
[GL] No.
Does it involve flour?
Is it a confectionary?
GL]and there was me being deliberatley obtuse over a form of words that tickled my funny bone ... simple pleasures for a Friday morning (hens don't lay recipes.)
Is it a cake?
[Inky] Duck and lizards do lay recipes. If you feed them right
[Brendan] Yes.
[Inkspot] Not really, although one might classify it as such.
[GL] It's closer to cake than confectionery.
Bread of some sort?
Is it a combination of different foods?
[GL] It is about as closely related to bread as it is to cake.
[Kim] No.
Does it contain cream?
[Inkspot] It can. At least, the concrete version can, the abstract one can't.
Does it involve pastry?
Is it a pancake?
Ambrosia?
Pardon my second guess here, but is it Pancake Day?
[GL] No.
[Darren] No.
[Chalky] No.
[Darren] No.

I'm going to be away all of tomorrow and some of Sunday, so let's see this one solved today.

Is it a type of cookie/biscuit?
[GL] No. Of the things mentioned, it's most like cake, a little less like bread or pancakes, somewhat less like a cookie/biscuit or pastry, and least like confectionery. It has this in common with pancakes, though, that you can combine it with pretty much anything else. And don't forget the abstract part, which is nothing to do with any festival or work of fiction.
Does the 'Abstract' element have a mythological/religious connection?
This is tricky because it seems we're guessing on two fronts.
Ah - simulpost. It seems you read my mind, Raak.
Is this something like tofu?
[Chalky] The abstract element is part of, or an aspect of, the concrete thing.
[Darren] No. This is something that is not only edible, but one would want to eat.
Well - I was thinking along the lines of Manna from Heaven or something like?
[Chalky] No, you can buy these everywhere, or make them yourself. Nothing supernatural involved.
Gingerbread men?
That doesn't satisfy the "you can combine it with anything" though.
[Darren] No.
Marmite Soldiers?
[Chalky] No.
does it contain fruit?
scones?
(though I'm not aware of any great abstraction attached to them)
Just got back this Sunday afternoon.
[metherer] It can.
[Brendan] No.
Another hint? The abstract version of this is the absence of the concrete version.
Fortune Cookies?
[Chalky] No.
Is the abstraction Douglas Adams-related?
Marzipan?
[Brendan] No. Nothing to do with any person or book.
[Chalky] No.
Does the concrete version contain a place name?
[Dazed5] No. The name of both versions refers to nothing but what the thing is.

I just checked that I didn't miss someone getting the right answer. I can't believe this is taking so long. I notice that I said it could be combined with anything, but I'm not sure that's true; it can certainly be combined with anything sweet.

A quiche or flan base?
A trifle?
A Gateaux?
[Inkspot,Darren,GL] No.
A bit of Crumpet?
[Inkspot] No. As far as I know, this thing does not appear in any figurative expression.
Muffin?
The words "Straws" and "Clutching" spring to mind
[GL] No.
I'll be away on a business trip from Wednesday afternoon to the end of the week. If no-one's got it before then, I'll just have to declare victory and reveal the answer.
Doughnut?
Wild screaming, clapping, cheering, and orgies in the aisles. Civilisation has risen once more, and soon, there will be lemon-scented paper tissues, and their flight can depart after a brief delay of 10,000 years.
[GL] Nearly there. What abstract thing is associated with a doughnut?
The doughnut hole?
[GL] !!!YES!!! Doughnut holes, referring both to the hole in the ring, and little blobs of doughnut fashioned as if cut out from the hole in the ring.
And you wonder why it took so long for people to guess?

Nevermind. The next item is ANIMAL.

Is it a mammal?
A long time to guess but it was a good conundrum.
Human?
[Inkspot] Yes
[Software] Yes
alive?
[sadie] No
Was english their main language?
[sadie] Yes
Male?
Sir Peter Ustinov?
Did he write a great many letters from America?
He's dead as well? Damn.
[Ink] Yes
[sade] No
[Raak] It's certainly not what he's famous for.
So... he might have written a number of letters from America?
[sadie] Was that a question? or a comment?
Did he die within this century?
Taking the view, for the sake of disambiguating, that the century started with 2000. It was merely a comment. With a question mark.
[sadie] No
Did he visit America?
Was he, in fact, American?
[sadie] He spent sometime in America
[BM] Yes
Was he born before America became independent?
Was he best known as an author?
[Bren] Yes.
[Inkspot] No
Abraham Lincoln?
[Software] See my answer to Brendan's question (independent - 1776. Lincoln born - 1809)
In other words, No.
Benjamin Franklin?
[Bren] No
Was he a publisher?
Was he of strictly European descent?
[Ink] I can find no reference to him having ever been a publisher
[sadie] As far as I can tell.
George Washington
It can't be that easy unless GL is feeling sorry after the last saga!
[Snodgrass] No
Caucasian appearance?
Was he ever president?
Are we talking present day USA? as oposed to the Americas in general?
Was he born before 1700?
[Snodgrass] Yes
[sadie] Yes
[Snodgrass] We're talking North America
[Inkspot] No
Thomas Jefferson
[sadie] No
James Maddison?
There's only so many it can be.
[sadie] I thought it would take a little longer than that for anyone to get it.
YES
It was Maddison 4th President of the USA and the first to be forced out of the White House during his first term. (The British burnt it down)

Very well, over to you sadie

Yay! Okay, now i've got a VEGETABLE for you.
Is it a turnip shaped like a thingie?
[Gusset] No.
Edible?
Is it something that has been man-made?
[Snodgrass] yes [Inkspot] yes
Does it involve eggs?
[Gusset] Not that i know of
Is it made from wood?
[Inkspot] No
Does it involve citrus fruit?
[Gusset] No
Is it a drink?
Does it contain more than one vegetable?
[all] Not generally, but i expect somebody out there is wierd enough.
[Software] Yes
Is it marmite?
Or Vegemite?
[all] Yes.
Marmite it is.
OK let's hope this proves harder. ANIMAL with ABSTRACT connections.
Is is fictional?
[sadie] Yes, that is the abstract connection
Is it part of some religious mythology?
Is it a dragon of some sort?
[sadie] No
[Raak] No
Is there a single fictional work (or closely-related set of fictional works) from which it comes?
[Brendan] Depending on your definition of "closely-related", Yes
Is it a fictional human being?
More than 2 legs?
Is the source pre-1950?
Does it's name begin with an L?
Is this closely-related set of fictional works all by the same author?
Is it Tinga and Tucka?
OK 40 somethings have wierd time warping memories. So sue me!
Is it a specific fictional animal belonging to a real Earth species?
Is it from a Marvel or DC comic book?
[GL] Yes
[Snodgrass] No
[Brendan] No
[Tuj] No
[Raak] Yes
[Snodgrass] Who? No.
[Darren] Yes, see above
[Inkspot] No
Less than 2 legs?
Who doesnt remember (Auntie) Jean Morton and her cuddly Koalas Tinga and Tucka? Shame on you! [Kids TV - 1960's]
[Snodgrass] No, and I wasn't born until 1979.
Female author?
Male author?
Female? (the fictional human)
[Inkspot] No
[GL] Yes
[Brenda]n No
J R R Tolkien?
[all] sorry about that. The 1979 bit I mean - you missed a great couple of decades there!
Is it adult fiction?
Snodgrass]One of the few children's tv with animals during 60's (other than Animal Magic) that I watched was Daktari with a cross eyed lion.
Is the fiction set in the real world?
[Snodgrass] No. I also missed a pretty reasonable couple of centuries
[Inkspot] Depending on your definition of "adult fiction". It is not adult in the sense that pornography is adult, but it is aimed at an audience that would be refered to as adults. Although of course it isn't entirely unsuitable for children.

I'll say Yes to make it simpler.
[BM] No
Is he the primary or title character of the set of works?
[saddie] Of his appearences in the set of works, only one was as anything other than the main character of the specific work.
Is it written in the science-fiction genre?
drawing a thin line between SF and fantasy novels.
[Inkspot] No
Is the fiction set on some version of Earth?
To clarify: the fictional worlds of Star Trek and Mad Max are both set in versions of Earth, whereas those of Star Wars and Narnia aren't.
[sadie] No, most 'alternate' Earth stories would be on the SF side of Inkspot's line.
Are the set of works books, or were they originally?
[sadie] Mostly
Cut-Me-Own-Throat Dibbler
In the same vein, Rincewind?
[Inkspot] No. He wasn't usually/ever the main character
[sadie] Not you again, Yes. it was Rincewind the Wizzard star of several Discworld novels and two computer games

Damn.
I have to think of something now.
Alright, people. Have yourselves a... MINERAL
Is it man-made?
Is it bigger than a phonebox?
[Gusset Login] Yes [all] Than a... yes, you freak of nature, you.
Is it made from more than one different material?
Stonehenge?
Shot in the dark, well its much bigger than a phone box and it will look lovely when its finished.
[Inkspot] Yes
[Snodgrass] No, but interesting guess. And in a wierd way, they are even connected...
Is it in the UK?
[Gusset Login] No
Is it in Europe?
[all] I think i can safely say no, it is nowhere in Europe.
Is it in Africa?
Is it made of stone?
[all] No, it's not in africa either
[Gusset Login] No
Is it a monument?
[Inkspot] No, but there are monuments to it
Is it made of metal?
[all] Yes, largely
Is it in America?
[Gusset] Not any more
Is it on Earth?
[Breadmaster] Nope.
Did leave Earth or get destroyed after 1990?
Is it a space probe?
[R.J.Fakename] No, earlier
[Inkspot] Not a probe.
Is it a Lunar Module from one of the Apollo moon (alleged) landings
Ooo, Controversial
or the Lunar Buggy from 15, 16 or 17?
[Snodgrass] Yes [the other Snodgrass] No, not a buggy
Apollo 11?
Are we trying each one in turn then?, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17?
Yes, it was the lander from Apollo 11, also known as The Eagle.
OK, lets try a bit of Animal
Is it human?
[all] Oh Yes!
Is it Soylent Green?
or however you spell it
Are they dead?
Is this a whole human or a part of a human?
[GL] No [all] Yes [Darren] Yes - a whole human (I'm feeling generous)
Fictional?
[Tu] No
European?
[Brendan] No
Male?
[Darren] Yes
Was he born before 1900?
[Inkspot] Yes
Was he born before 1800?
Politician/statesman?
[Darren] No
[Brendan] No
Australian?
Asian?
American?
[Inkspot] No
[BM] No
[all] Yes
Inventor?
a native American?
Writer?
President?
Ernest Hemingway?
[Brendan] No
[Inkspot] Yes (as in born there)
[BM] No
[all] No
[all again] Also No
Was he a Texan?
Snodgrass]A native american is more than having been was born there, more can be found here. Is the answer still Yes.
Did he die violently?
Really, "native American" should mean someone who was born there. The people who actually get called native Americans ought to be called "indigenous Americans", I'd have thought. Just goes to show that Americans don't know what words like "native" actually mean.
Was he born before 1850?

[Inkspot] No (born, yes, American Indian, no)
[BM] Yes
[all] I'll say Yes, but records are sketchy in this respect. I may revise this or confirm later. It would have been around 1850.
Did he die after 1900?
General George Armstrong Custer?
[Brendan] No of that I am certain
[all] No, but spookily his was a name on my list of possibles.
Did he die in the American Civil War?
Was he of caucasian appearence?
Was he a white man?
Was he a desperado or outlaw?
Henry McCarty, alias Kid Antrim, alias William H. Bonney, alias Billy The Kid?
[Brendan] No
[all] Yes
[Inkspot] In some respects Yes
[GL] No x 4
Was he assassinated?
[Tuj] No
Was he killed in a shoot out with the law?
[Inkspot] No
Was he involved in politics?
[Darren] No
John Wilkes Booth?
or maybe not, given the way he died ...
[Brendan] No not John Wilkes Booth.
Summarising: White male, American but not "American Indian", died violently before 1900, born around 1850, not political but (clue) fame has serious political aspect.
Lets go from here.
Was he a civil rights campaigner?
[Inkspot] No
Was he shot by firing squad?
Did he fight in teh american Civil War?
[Inkspot] No [Gusset] No
Was he executed?
[all] Yes
Was he electrocuted?
[Inkspot] Yes
William Kemmler?
[all] YES
Well done, the first electicutee in 1890. An axe murderer who killed his lover Matilda Ziegler (theres and actress with that name - in Mr Bean I think) in 1889. Sketchy records about him but it was a botched execution. They fried him twice. Mmmm Nice.

So when the applause dies down its over to you [all]
Thank you, Snodgrass
OK this one is an ABSTRACT with MINERAL connections.
Does is appear in a work of fiction?
all] *cheers ans clapping* Congrats on another good win.
[Inkspot] It would be inaccurate to say 'No', but misleading to say 'Yes'.
Is this an area of the Earth's surface (ie. a country, region, ocean, etc.)?
[Darren] No
Is it something represented in sculpture?
Rock music?
Is it connected to the word "Antarctica"?
Can it be percieved by any of the senses?
The pot of gold at the end of a rainbow?
Just popping in with my occasional and totally selfish wild guess.
Is it man-made?
Money?
Is the mineral connection an element of the same?
make that "...of the name"?
Sorry to ask two questions but it's been a while.
[Brendan] Not to my knowledge, but you never know with some artists
[Darren] No
[Tuj] No
[Inkspot] Not really, though it's causes often are.
[Dujon] No
[Breadmaster] One of the mineral connections is.
[Raak] No
[Darren] Yes, And don't worry about asking multiple question, especially over the weekend.
Is the mineral, which is a part of the name of the item, a solid?
[Snodgrass] One of them is, one of them isn't
Is it a phrase or saying?
Is there a maritime connection?
[GL] Yes
[BM] Not as far as I'm aware
Does it have a religious connection?
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