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Animal-Vegetable-Mineral-Abstract: The Pants Memorial Game

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The chairperson selects an object/idea/whatever and announces whether it's animal, vegetable, mineral, and/or abstract. The others have to ask questions to figure out what it is. Whomever guesses the object correctly is given the chair for the next round; repeat ad nauseam.

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I meant BrendaN of course *laughs again*

[Brendan] YES! And I believe you spelt it entirely correctly.

Having recently had a go, I'm entirely happy to cede in favour of either Inkspot, who clearly had it and was just messing around, or Chalks, who I simulposted. That said, I do have a particularly silly idea for a round ... I'll leave it a few hours and if neither of those two starts one I will.

Pah! I'd have won it if it hadn't been for those pesky kids!

applause and cheers
A good win and well set by the Breadmaster.

Silly idea

OK, then, my silly idea: bifurcated AMVA. I've got two separate "objects" in mind which can be referred to by the same word(s). Hence, for each question I'll give two answers, one for the first object and one for the second, eg "Is it made of wood?" "Yes/No" Hope that makes sense.
So, the objects are ANIMAL/ANIMAL.

Is it a quagga?

Leaf? OK, just a mad guess. :-(

However, is that the idea, Brendan?

Is either human?

An interesting conceit!

A mammal?

Bigger than a Coconut?

[Raak] No/no.
[Dujon] No/no.
[Bm] Yes/Yes.
[Inkspot] Yes/Yes (see above).
[Snodgrass] Yes/Yes. (Unless it's a giant mutant coconut you have in mind)

Are they particular humans (as opposed to a type, job, class etc)?

Interesting - looks like we have two people with the same name, or perhaps similar titles?

Is the name for either an occupation?

[Breadmaster] Yes/Yes
[snorgle]No/No

Are they male?

Are they still alive?

Englebert Humperdinck?

Are they British?

[Breadmaster] Yes/Yes.
[Raak] Yes/No.
[Bigsmith] No. (Good guess though!)
[Inkspot] Yes/No.

Male?

[Brendan] Thanks, I thought it an apt guess after his/their appearance in an earlier game!

Jerry Hall?

One's an American model, the other an Irish guy I used to work with.

Obviously not as neither are British, and both are still alive - sorry, somehow transposed the answers in my tiny mind...

Are they nobility?

[Bigsmith] Er, yes and the male I already answered to Breadmaster's last Q.
[Breadmaster] Ooh, excellent question! No/Yes

Winston Churchill?

Is the Dead one the Noble one?

[Brendan] I can assure you that my coconuts are not mutant or deformed in any way!

(Bod No2) Is he an American?

Are they actors?

Assuming that Brendan always refers to them in the same order, it looks like one is alive, British, and not noble, while the other is dead, not British, and noble. I think.

[Raak] No.
[Snodgrass] Yes. (FWIW, I'm maintaining consistency -- ie there is a distinct Left-Hand-Side object and a distinct Right-Hand-Side object.)
[Inkspot] No/No.
[Breadmaster] No/No. Your summary is spot on.

Is he a singer?

Are they remembered as a duo, ie. were they 'connected' before one of them died?

Are we talking 'leaders of nations' here?

[Brendan] Quite how someone can be Noble without being British is quite difficult to comprehend - Xenophobia Rules OK!

Supp to above:. Leader in a Sporting field?

Political?

Writer?

Royalty?

[GL] Yes, but not just that/No (see below though)
[Chalky] No.
[Snodgrass] Not remotely/Not quite
[Snodgrass] No/No
[Snodgrass] No/No
[Breadmaser] It would be misleading to say Yes, but Yes, in a manner of speaking/No
[Raak] No/Yes
Observation/Hint: There seems to be an implicit assumption in some of these questions that the sum total of people involved is two. This is not the case.

Are either of the subjects a single person (ie a solo subject not just unmarried)

Did they die before 1900?

Obviously this only applies to the dead one

[Snodgrass] No/Yes
[Gusset] No/No

Were either of the named Rasputin?

Did they die before 1950?

[Gusset] No/No
[Breadmaster] No/Yes

Is the currently alive one a pop group?

[Raak] Yup.

Has the pop group been around for more than twenty years?

...otherwise I'll never have heard of it.

Do they have a song in the current UK Top 40?

Austrian Archduke?

[Raak] No.
[GL] Not at this precise moment in time, but they have relatively recently.
[Inkspot] No/Yes! (You've got it, haven't you?)

Franz Ferdinand?

[Gusset] Correct. It was indeed Franz Ferdinand (current flavour of the millisecond with the NME) on the LHS, who are named after Franz Ferdinand (Austrian Archduke and famous casue of WWI) on the RHS. Congratulations, and over to you!

I didn't know it was a pop group

Anyway, hmm... ANIMAL (with ABSTRACT connections)

Fictional?

[BM] Yes.

Of human form?

[Chalky] I assume you mean is it human? No

Is it a person?

[BM] That depends how you define person. I know someone who considers there pet cat to be a person.

I mean "their pet cat"

Is it an animal that talks?

Pesky line-managers!

[Inkspot] It talks after a fashion, but the term animal may be misleading.

Does it communicate telepathically?

[Brendan] No.

Is it known from appearing in a particular story?

[Inkspot] Yes, but it also appeared in the sequel(s)

Aslan?

[Bren] No

Is it a kind of animal that really exists?

[BM] No.

Is the author still alive?

Is it a dragon?

[Inky] Author may be the wrong word, but... Yes
[Bren] No

Is the work of fiction a film?

[Brendan] Yes.

Is it a character from Star Wars?

[Inkspot] Yes.

is it a cartoon character?

drat - simulpost. I've just wasted a question

Is it Jar Jar Binks?

In which case, may God have mercy on your soul for reminding us of that execrescence!

Chewbacca?

that ChewBacca thingy?

another bleedin' simulpost...sorry Inks!

[Chalky] no
[BM] Thankfully not
[Inkspot] Yes
[Chalky] Rwwwar!

Well Done Inkspot

Thank you Gusset Login for a great AMV for a Friday Afternoon.

eyes down looking ... MINERAL

Is it man-made?

I have released any of my AMVs to the public, or do you mean AVMA? 8)

A household implement?

Some day I'll get Broadband, then I can devote more attention to quicker-fire games like this... But it's so nice just to read the pages that happen in between and how an idea is pursued and grasped betwixt-times!

Gusset Login] No ....must remember, less haste more speed ;)
Tuj]No

Is it a geographical feature?

Raak]Yes

Is it in the UK?

[Raak] nice one!

Chalky] Yes

England?

Somerset?

Not thinking of anything in particular

Scotland?

Chalky]No
Tuj]No
Breadmaster]No
...and hence it is in...

The Channel Islands?

Raak]No ;)

The Giants Causeway?

Just a stab in the dark. Well its sunny now but you know what I mean!

Snodgrass]No ...sunny? not here its high winds and showers.

Snowdon?

Raak] YES .... Mount Snowdon it is ... and in just ten guesses!

Huge round of applause

The next object is MINERAL, with ABSTRACT connections.

"There is no spoon?"

I think that last one would've been less than 10 if it wasn't for me, but hey, let's make a mess while we can!

[Tuj] No, there is no spoon.

Does it contain metal?

[Bm] No.

Is it larger than a coconut?

No I don't know why that is my yardstick either!

Is it fictional?

[Snodgrass] Yes.
[Bm] The abstract connection is its appearance in fiction, but it also exists in reality.

Man-made?

[Brendan] No.

Does it contain rock or stone?

[Bm] No.

Metal?

[Snodgrass] No.

Is it a solid state object?

[Inkspot] No.

Is it on the Earth?

Is it a liquid?

[Brendan] Yes, and no doubt on some other planets as well, but there's no-one around to see it.
[Inkspot] Partly.

Does it contain water?

[Bm] Yes.

Does it contain ice?

Does it contain more than trace amounts of anything other than water?

[Gusset L] It could, but the typical one doesn't.
[Brendan] Yes.

Does it have a use?

Is mud involved?

Is it an atmospheric phenomenon?

[Chalky] No.
[Gusset Login] No, although it might be a side-effect.
[Bm] YES! A breakthrough!

Is it rain?

cloud?

[Kim] Rain is a major part of it.
[snorgle] Cloud, too.

A hurricane?

Is the fictional connection one specific work?

[snorgle] No.
[Brendan] It includes one specific work.

A tornado?

Twister?

A thunderbolt?

Is the significant part of it that isn't water, made of dead vegitation?

Since both clouds and rain are made of water

Is it the tornado that took Dorothy Gale to Oz?

[GL] No.
[Chalky] No.
[Software] No.
[all] No.
[Bm] No.

Can you confirm this summary?

It's an atmospheric phenomenon
Contains more than a trace of something that isn't water
Contains nothing man-made
Does not contain any metal, rock, stone or wood
Is used in fiction
Is found on earth, but may exist elsewhere

[GL] Spot on.

The Northern Lights?

A Rainbow?

[Chalky] No.
[GL] No.

Is it the title of a play?

[Inkspot] Not that I know of.

Is it likely to be dangerous?

An interesting conundrum from Raak here... Good stuff!

[Bm] Can easily be.

Does it occur all over the world?

[Inkspot] I believe it can happen in most places. More in some than in others.

Is the specific fictional work a film?

Is it a thunderstorm?

Is it a snowstorm?

A whirlpool? El Niño?

well, the sea contains more than trace elements of something other than water...

[Brendan] No.
[Chalky] applause from audience That could be part of it.
[Darren] silence from audience That could be part of it as well, but it's probably not what you would first think of.
[ZK] No.

Is it a monsoon?

Is it a name for an extreme weather condition?

[Brendan] No.
[Inkspot] Not a name, and not all that extreme.

A hint about the fictional connection: there are actually two fictional connections: one a specific work which mentions it, and the other a body of fictional work in which it recurs from time to time.

The Jet Stream?

Acid rain?

[S] No.
[GL] No.

Thinking some more about the "more than trace amounts of something that isn't water," is this something Fortean like a shower of fish?

Is it about seeing clearly now that the rain has gone?

Weather [aka Climate]??

Singing in the Rain?

[Darren] No.
[GL] Quite the reverse.
[S] No.
[all] No.

The Calm before the storm?

Does it contain anything else apart from water and air?

(assuming that air is at least part of the non-water content)

The eye of the storm?

[GL] No.
[Brendan] No. Air is indeed the non-water part.
[Bm] No.

Ok, so it's established that storm is a significant part of it.

The Perfect Storm

[Snodgrass] No.

St Elmo's Fire?

Not really to do with air and water so much as electricity, but frankly, my flum is utterly moxed at this point.

[Brendan] No.
Trust me, you'll all know exactly what it is, and recognise its fictional appearances, when the answer is revealed.

The / A Tempest?

I don't know about flummoxed I haven't got a Clooney hence the frantic straw clutching with a perfect storm.

The specific fictional work was it written before 1940?

see if this will clear the fog a little.

Is a property of the general class of fictional works that they're set at sea?

[Snodgrass] No.
[Inkspot] Yes.
[Brendan] No.

April Showers?

Bermuda Triangle?

The fictional work referred to previously - is this a song?

[GL] No.
[Chalky] No.
[Darren] No.

Time for a hint?

Does the answer appear in the title of the work?

Raak]How about a one or two more questions on the source of the work, followed by a hint.

Is the fictional work pre-1850?

Is the fictional work by a man?

Fog?

[Inkspot] No.
[Brendan] Yes.
[Darren] Yes.
[snorgle] No.

The answers to Brendan and Daniel refer to the specific fictional work, not the body of fictional work, for which the answers would be No and Yes.

Daniel?!

Is the fictional work/body of work pre-1500?

I must admit I'm running out of questions here. Fiendish problem-setting from Raak and a good puzzle.

Is the fictional work European in origin?

[Darren[ Oops, sorry.
[Bm] No/No.
[Darren] Yes (but the fictional body of work isn't).

Hint: The fictional work is a novel, and the fictional body of work is a cartoon strip.

(novel)Was it written after 1900?(cartoon) did it appear in a comic?

Is it a dark and stormy night?

(in which case, I'm assuming the cartoon strip is Peanuts ...)

[Inkspot] No/No.
[Brendan] YES, it is a dark and stormy night!

Excellent puzzle, Raak!

OK, let's have an ANIMAL.

Is it a shaggy dog?

Continuing the dark and stormy night theme and the 'wouldnt send a dog out on a night like this' idea

[Snodgrass] Sadly not.

Is it human?

Is it a specific individual?

[GL] No.
[Raak] No.

Is it a fish out of water?

Is is mammalian?

[GL] No.
[Kim] No.

Is it a reptile?

Is it extinct?

Is it a bird?

Is it indiginous to a particular continent?

Raak] A wonderful candidate for Limited Short Stories sometime. The opening chapter of Paul Clifford by Edward Bulwer-Lytton.

Is it an insect?

[GL] No.
[all] Yes!
[Raak] No.
[Inkspot] No.
[Kim] No.

Is it a fish?

In the water this time

Is it a Tasmanian Wolf?

Did it live between 225 and 65 million years ago?

Is it a single celled organism?

[GL] No.
[all] Nope.
[Inkspot] Nuh uh.
[R.J.F.] It is not.

Is it a virus? (since they don't really have cells)

Did it become extinct during recorded history?

A Sabre Toothed Tiger

Is/was it fictional?

Did it live between the present and 65 million years ago?

[Darren] No.
[Raak] No.
[Snodgrass] No.
[GL] No, entirely real. I'm not even aware of any famous appearances in fiction.
[Inkspot] Good question: no.

Did it live underwater?

Summarising...

Animal, but not a bird, fish, reptile, insect, mammal, single-celled organism, or virus. Not indigenous to any particular continent. Went extinct more than 225 million years ago.

Was it a vertebrate?

[GL] Yes.
[Raak] An accurate summary, and no.

Was it amphibian?

A trilobite?

[Inkspot] No.
[Raak] Correct!

Gosh, er, let's see....

ABSTRACT, with VEGETABLE connections

Is it fictional?

Standard opening.

[Bm] No.

Is it something which can be an attribute of a human?

Is it a song title?

[Darren] No.
[Dujon] No.

Is it connected with environmental issues?

[Raak, Brendan] well played on both the 'setting' and 'guessing' - wish I had the opportunity to participate more this week :-(

Is it a human concept?

Standard opening number two.

Is the vegetable connection something to do with food?

Is it a well known phrase or saying?

Is the vegetable a fruit?

I shoudl revise the description to say it can be either ABSTRACT with VEGETABLE connections or VEGETABLE with ABSTRACT connections. And the VEGETABLE might include ANIMAL as well, depending.

[Chalky] No.
[Bm] Yes (this applies to the possible ANIMAL part as well).
[Darren] Yes.
[GL] No.
[Inkspot] No.

Is it a turnip for the books?

Is the vegetable connection, a vegetable?

Is it an amusingly-shaped vegetable/fruit?

[RJF] No.
[Inkspot] No.
[Chalky] No.

Is it a name of something a man made to be eaten?

eg a birthday cake.

Is the vegetable a forest?

[Inkspot] Yes.
[GL] No.

An easter egg?

[Inkspot] No.

A simnel cake?

Very seasonal.

[Software] No. And the mystery object isn't seasonal.

Is it associated with a particular country?

Does it involve chocolate?

Is it a chocolate orange?

Is it a type of pie?

[Inkspot] Not very strongly.
[all] No.
[GL] No.
[Darren] No.

Is it associated with a particular part of the day?

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