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Animal-Vegetable-Mineral-Abstract: The Pants Memorial Game

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The chairperson selects an object/idea/whatever and announces whether it's animal, vegetable, mineral, and/or abstract. The others have to ask questions to figure out what it is. Whomever guesses the object correctly is given the chair for the next round; repeat ad nauseam.

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Gustav Mahler?

I would just like to say that my son Gustav (1860-1911), was born in Kalischt in what was then Austria, but is now part of the Czech Republic.

Mozart?

Handel?

all - well, I double-checked on several websites and they all agree, so yes.
Inkspot - no.
Gusset - no.
Chalky - no and no.

Johann Gambolputty de von Ausfern- schplenden- schlitter- crasscrenbon- fried- digger- dingle- dangle- dongle- dungle- burstein- von- knacker- thrasher- apple- banger- horowitz- ticolensic- grander- knotty- spelltinkle- grandlich- grumblemeyer- spelterwasser- kurstlich- himbleeisen- bahnwagen- gutenabend- bitte- ein- nürnburger- bratwustle- gerspurten- mitz- weimache- luber- hundsfut- gumberaber- shönedanker- kalbsfleisch- mittler- aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm?

Schumann?

Gluck?

Raak - cut down on the speed.(that means no)
Chalky - no and no.
[Clue]He isn't well-known, at least I hadn't heard of him before last week, when I went to a performance of his most famous work.

Would that have been a symphonic work with no voices?

I.e., not an opera or an oratorio.

Was he born before 1850?

Toby - no. Gusset - no.

Sigmund Romberg?

Carl Ditters von Dittersdorf?

Johann Joseph Fux?

[Everyone] While we are waiting to find out which dead German composer snorgle is, I invite you all to take this short test. Which dead German composer are you?.

Hans Pfitzner?

or maybe.... Max von Schillings?

or perhaps ... Engelbert Humperdinck?

or even --- the OTHER Wagner, Siegfried I think ?

[Chalky] Engelbert Humperdinck was English

[all] No he wasn't ... and I thought snorgle was in the chair? :-)

[Chalky] snorgle is in the chair but that doesn't stop me point out that Englebert Humperdinck wasn't German, and then discovering that there's more than one Englebert Humperdinck. And one of them was German. My humble appology is in the post.

[all] teehee!

In any case, the English one was actually Gerry Dorsey when he used to sing cover versions on Saturday Club hosted by Brian Matthew on the BBC Light Programme in the '60's.

Chalky - yes! Engelbert Humperdinck (the original one) it is! I saw Hansel & Gretel last week, and was surprised by the name - until I looked into it a bit more.

***Goes wild for Chalky***

Splendid!

Now .... let me think ...

Is it Animal, Vegetable, Mineral or Abstract? Sorry, Chalky! ;-)

[Dujon] Yes. ;)

... ah yes

Time for an ...
A B S T R A C T

Is it a fictional character/being?

Might as well get this sorted up front this time.

Hello Duj :-) No, sorry. T'ain't one of them there things.

Is it particular to humans?

That's it for tonight. Unless I change my mind.

Is it the unbearable lightness of Being?

Is it a human concept?

Standard opening

[Duj] Yes
[Raak] Curiously enough, that is one of my favourite phrases and have longed to slip it into one of these games. Much as I'd love to say 'yes', in this instance, alas No
[Software] I suppose it must be [see Duj reply]

Is it descriptive of an action?

Is it an emotion?

Is it a religion?

My appologies again

Is it a phrase or expression?

Is it easier than the last one?

[Snodgrass] Sort of, yes
[Gusset] No
[all] No ... hey forget it - I, too, am less than perfect :-)
[Inkspot] In a manner of speaking, yes it is
[Gusset] Indubitably

Getting your leg over?

Hung like a horse?

Is it related to sex?

A leap of faith?

Would it make someone happy? :-)

Is it said/used in everyday conversation?

Does it contain numbers.

?

*rushing back from a meeting...*

[Inkspot] Er ... no
[Bigsmith] Nope
[all] one might think so in view of the previous two questions - and as a matter of fact it *could* be :-)
[Raak] No - but you're moving in the right direction -ish
[Software] NO! good question
[Gusset] Yes
[Kim] It *might* contain numbers but don't let that mislead you

Is it conected with the church?

[all] Not specifically

Can it be percieved by any of the senses?

is it a sinlge word?

single word, even
Curse you dyslexia! You win again!

A curse?

Swearing?

A magic spell?

[Inkspot] It can be perceived by all of the senses
[all] Yes - with the addition of a definite or indefinite article
[Software] Not really
[Gusset] Noo-o-o - but swearing might be applicable afterwards :-)
[Raak] No

Pain?

[Gusset] No

Life?

The universe?

A nightmare?

[Gusset] No
[Raak] nah
... although true pessimists might say that both were this [that was a BIG CLUE].

on spotting a Raak simulpost ... not a nightmare.

It?

Everything?

Would it make someone unhappy?

[Inkspot] No to both
[Raak] The opposite to that question was asked a while back :-) Your answer is YES, it might make someone unhappy, but not necessarily deeply unhappy.

Suffering?

Disappointment?

Pointless?

Being dumped?

[Chalky] Just checking.

[Gusset, Software] One might suffer and be disappointed as a result but the answer is more the 'action' rather than the consequence.
[all] erm .. no
[Raak] No, but being dumped may fall into this category - a more generic word is needed.

Losing?

Is it something most people have probably experienced?

[all] No - but close
[Breadmaster] Absolutely.

Failure?

Rejection?

Missing last orders?

The blues?

Antidisestablishmentarianism?

[all] not quite
[Software] No
[B'smith] No & No
[Gusset] No

CLUE: 'all' did this in the last game :-)

Mistake?

Fuck up?

WELL DONE!! [Software] gets to the post first.
[all] f*cks up :-) sorry

Well I never!!

**Tries to hide behind hands with embarrassment.** Now let me see...thinks :-)

I know! Mineral with Animal connections.

The statue of Greyfriars Bobby in Edinburgh?

A dog lead?

Is it made of metal?

Is it larger than a ballcock?

Is it smaller than a phonebox?

That was quick!

snorgs: No.
all: No
GL: Yes, partly.
BS: Perhaps.

Simpost

all: Yes

Is it decorative?

Does it *look* like an animal?

Would I use it *on* an animal

Is the Animal connection human?

Is the animal connected to it a domesticated one?

A horseshoe?

Is it made for a specific purpose?

Is it a mobile phone?

LG: No.
all: No.
Kim: Yes.
Tuj: No, see Kim.
Brendan: No.
Inks: Yes.
all: No.

Is the non-metal component plastic?

(psst, Software, you missed Breadmaster's "Does it look like an animal?")

Does one wear it?

Is it electrical?

Does it connect physically to a human?

Humans are domesticated (usually)

Is there only one of it?

Bren: Yes.
Raak: No.
LG: Sometimes.
all: No -my ex-wife wasn't!
BM: No.

Do most people have one?

I did say usually

Would most people want one?

Is it used for entertainment?

all: Hard to say, I have one.
BM see above.
GL: No

GL: Don't go there ;-)

Do you keep yours at home?

Go where?

GL: Yes

Do you use it every day?

Is it some form of communications device?

Sorry to interrupt AVMA for a moment, but since [Software]'s definitely reading this: gigni de nihilo ... over on MCiOS is a reverse game. The idea is that if you read the game backwards, it'll all make sense. This means that new moves have to be consistent with what's already been said "in the future". So, for example, fairly early in the game you'll find Blob saying "[Néa] To answer you question - not recently I'm afraid, the last time was on the East London Line between Shadwell & Wapping." and then later on Néa asking "Incidentally, did anybody here ever pull the emergency brake while drunk?", setting up Blob's answer. As far as I can tell, you've been playing it forwards all along -- hence all the comments about you developing precognition and so on, which are an attempt to make your comments make sense in the context of the reverse flow.

BM: Clue, perhaps - Most days.
Brendan: :-*

Is it a personal organiser?

A toothbrush?

Following Brendan's Comments above

Software re: The Reverse Crescent Game in MCiOS. Yup - because you seemed to 'pick' on me nearly every time you posted something, you completely f*cked up my gameplan. I left loads of messages for you - so did Darren - and others dropped hints. Eventually I gave up and dropped out of the game :-(

Is it a spinning around clothes drying thing?

...back to the game

Is it a toilet brush?

ZK: No
Toby: No.

Chalks: My humblest appologies :-o , I was completely off the scent on that one :-/ , sorry to spoil your fun, I'll stick to the things I know best in future.

Chalks: No & No.

A cuddly toy?

[S'ware] apology accepted :-)

Is it related to sex?

Ok, everything could be related to sex, but some things are more closely related than others.

Is it a pharisee?

Chalks: No, this is not the generation game :O).
Raak: Unlikely - but, hey, whatever turns you on ;-)
Chalks: No, it is Mineral with Animal connections, remember.

A penguin [bar]?

doggy widdle?

sorry - just remembered it's mineral with animal connections

Is it something one enjoys using?

Chalks ;-))
Raak: Not particularly, unless one had such a fettish.

Is it a hoover?

Bren: No.

A toothbrush?

A K-Tel nose hair trimmer?

A razor?

Also based on the assumption that disposables are made of metal and plastic to shave the human animal and they often come in the "electrical" variety - and blokes tend to use them daily or almost as often, with girls slightly less often needing a boyfriend at this time of night declared

Could you lift it with one hand?

[ZK] Awww... maybe you should use that K-Tel nose hair trimmer a little more frequently... ;-)

Have you died?

[Breadmaster] They don't make industrial strength ones, you see :)

Back from a relaxing weekend without a PC in my face.

Raak: No.
ZK: No & No.
BM: Yes (in most cases).
ZK: No.

Is it computerised?

Why is this such a boring one?

Can we have a clue?

Chalks: Because nobody has asked the right questions.
all: Yes, I'm getting bored too. You probably have several of these about the office/college/school.

Is it a telephone?

A stapler?

First thing on my desk that I saw ...

I know what's bugging me about this one - the 'animal' connection .... what does 'connection' actually mean? Is there a bit of animal in it? or is used by an animal [in this case human]? If it's the latter, isn't it rather superfluous and misleading to add the animal bit?

GL: No.
Bren: No, but you are now on the right tack.
Chalks: In this case the human connection is that this object would be unable to perform any function without human assistance.

Hole punch?

Ring binder?

Is it human-powered?

all - has it! Cheers and whoops from audience!

Over to you all!

At f*r*i*g last!

This one is an ANIMAL, and hopefully will be easier to guess

Human animal?

Come on now, it wasn't that difficult!

[Software] Yes - It took a long time to work out, that makes it difficult

Alive?

IMO

[S'ware] The 'Animal' part was superfluous and misleading. Many examples of this type of equipment have been posted as the 'object' in the past - simply as Mineral. You replied to my earlier question [and I quote] "Because nobody has asked the right questions." I completely disagree.

[Kim] No

Brutus? (of "et tu" fame)

'cos it's always fun to start with a completely random guess.

A certain individual animal?

Chinese?

Well, it's a one in five chance!?

Did they die before 1900?

Male?

[Brenda] No - but it was worth a shot
[Raak] Yes - an individual dead human (see above)
[Tuj] No
[Ink] Yes
[Snodster] No - I'm fairly certain she wasn't

Were they born before 1500?

[Inkspot] No

Religious figure?

Was he a scientist?

[Brendan] No
[Inkspot] No, and as said before not a 'he'

Joan of Arc?

[Software] No, Joan of Arc was born before 1500

Mary Shelley?

Just testing ;)

[Inkspot] No

Was she born before 1800?

[Inkspot] Yes

Is she an author?

Elizabeth I?

Was she a religious figure?

[Inkspot] She isn't. She wasn't famous for being an author.
[Raak] No, but you're think on the right lines.
[Kim] See the answer I gave when Brendan asked that.

[Raak] I meant thinking not think obviously

Mary, Queen of Scots?

[snorgle] No

Was she European, other than British?

[Inkspot] No

Was she a royal of some description?

just trying to clarify what "along the right lines" means (couldn't be Queen V herself, of course, since she died in 1901 ...)

Was she associated with royalty, without being royalty herself?

Lady Jane Grey

[Brendan] Yes (It also couldn't be Queen V because she wasn't born before 1800)
[Raak] At one time
[Inkspot] No.

If not an author, a diarist Elizabeth Pepys?

Nell Gwynne?

[Inkspot] No.
[Kim] No.

One of Henry VIII's wives?

Queen Anne?

[all] For some reason I read the wrong answer, and thought you'd said "No" to born pre-1800 ... Doh!

Mary wife of William III (of Orange)?

[Raak] Yes
[Braendan] You are so very close - We can all make mistakes
[Inkspot] No

Anne Boleyn?

[Brendan] Yup.

Audience - Cheers and Adulation for Brendan

OK, let's have a MINERAL/VEGETABLE (with ABSTRACT overtones). If it becomes obvious that this classification is confusing people, I'll give some pointers ...

Is it made of wood?

And metal?

A painting?

Is the vegetable, paper?

[all] in part, but probably not a large part (NB: I am considering "made of wood" to mean dead wood in some way arranged by humans; ie in my definition a tree is not "made of wood" -- which I admit is eccentric)
[Software] probably in places, but it's not a major component
[Raak] No, but keep plugging at why it has abstract overtones
[Inkspot] No.

Half a dead cow in formaldehyde?

Is the vegtable part a tree?

Oops, ignore my last, dead cow isn't mineral or vegetable.

Half a dead tree in formaldehyde?

Is it unique?

[Raak] No, in either case. [all] Not "a" tree. [Inkspot] Yes.

Hyde Park?

Does the vegetable part involve more than one tree?

Is it a geographical landmark?

Is it a work of art?

[all] No.
[GL] Yes!
[Inkspot] No.
[Raak] The "it" you are looking for isn't, but a work of art (in the broadest sense) is involved.

Is it a forest?

Is it a real place mentioned in literature like Sherwood Forest?

[Tuj] Yes, but not just that.
[Inkspot] You're getting very close, but the answer to that particular question is No.

Is it the Hundred Acer Wood?

Is it Mirkwood?

Fangorn Forest?

The Forest Moon of Endor?

stop looking at me like that!

[Gusset] No.
[snorgle]No.
[Breadmaster] Nope.
[all] Nope!
All good guesses, but remember it isn't just a forest.

Is it from LOTR?

Under Milk Wood?

Not Forest Gump either then

Can it move around?

Burnham Wood?

[Gusset] No.
['spot] No.
[Breadmaster] No.
[all] No.
When I say it's not just a forest, I mean there's other stuff too, not that it's a special sort or specific example of a forest. The trees are definitely a major component of the mystery item, but perhaps not the one people immediately think of.

The Eden Project?

The Angel of the North?

Is it fictional?

[Bm] No.
[Raak] No.
Because ... [Tuj] Yes!

Babylon 5?

Is it from a film like the 'Valley Forge' in Silent Running?

The forest referred to in the phrase "Can't see the forest for the trees"?

Is the fictional setting concerned a movie?

[Raak] No.
[Inkspot] No.
[snorgle] No, it is from a specific work.
[ZK] No, not a movie.

Is it a city?

The Forbidden Forest from Harry Potter which is based on the Forest of Dean?

[all] No, but it is within/near one.
[Inkspot] No.

The Hanging Gardens Of Babylon?

Central Park?

Is it from a book?

[snorgle] I've made mistakes with these things before, but are you sure Central Park contains a forest? and is fictional?

Is it an old oak tree with a yellow ribbon tied around it?

[GL] I don't think the Hanging Gardens were fictional either, although not much is known about them.

[BM] There's no proof that it ever existed apart from a book written by someone who never went within a hundred miles of the area it was rumoured to be. But I take your point

Was the book written after 1900?

Nottingham Forest?

I know Sherwood was mentioned earlier but Notts Forest are a fictional entity, ie they are alledged to be footballers - but nice people all the same who always invite me to their end of season party in January each year.

[Gusset] No.
[snorgle] Alas, too real.
[all]Erm. The work in question is commonly found in books but it is not a book per se. Does that make sense?
[Breadmaster] No.
[Inkspot] No (bearing in mind the above caveats about the phrase "the book").
[Snodgrass] LOL. No.

PS [Snodgrass] Are you also alleging that all the players are vegetables? ;)

Was the book written before 1980?

bearing in mind the above caveats about the phrase "the book"

I meant 1880!

Is it from a poem?

Is it from a play?

Utopia?

[GL] Yes, before 1880.
[Inkspot] Indeed it is. Therefore ...
[Raak] No.
[all] No.

Herot?

Xanadu?

I mean, of course, the location of Kubla Khan's pleasure dome, and not the improbably awful film starring Olivia Newton John and Gene Kelly. On roller skates. In pink. With the Electric Light Orchestra.

[Gusset] No.
[Breadmaster] DING! DING! DING! Yes! It was indeed those twice five miles of fertile ground, with walls and towers girdled round, forests ancient as the hills, gardens bright with sinuous rills, etc. etc. Congratulations. The floor is yours.

Huzzah!

Give me a few moments to thing of something sufficiently fiendish.

ABSTRACT

OK, let's see how this plays out.

Is it an emotion?

[ZK] Nope.

Is it a human concept?

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