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Animal-Vegetable-Mineral-Abstract: The Pants Memorial Game
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The chairperson selects an object/idea/whatever and announces whether it's animal, vegetable, mineral, and/or abstract. The others have to ask questions to figure out what it is. Whomever guesses the object correctly is given the chair for the next round; repeat ad nauseam.
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The cow that jumped o'er the moon?
Is this a human person?
Software [No]
Raak [Yes]
Little Jack Horner?
the boy that stuck his finger in the dyke?
Is it Tom, Tom, the Piper's son?
Big Clue before bedtime!
Raak[No]You'll be getting this one aswell if your not careful ;)
snorgle[No]
Kin [No]
Looking for the person in the nursery rhyme about a man, who went somewhere (no animals other animals or people involved) but something happened, to make him never, want to go back ... ever!
Doctor Foster!
Take a chair!
Kim [YES]
A good win from Kim there coming up on the inside rail. Over to you.
Thanks, Inkspot, though you must admit, you gave us a lot of help.
OK...now then...Hmmmm.....Ah!
This next one is unquestionably MINERAL.
Is it man-made (oblig.) ?
Is it made of metal?

Nice one Kim
*Audience erupts into raucous cheering for Kim and his perfect recall of Doctor Foster's dubious exploits*

Would you like to have one?
[Boolbar] No.
[Chalky] No.
[Raak] No, but we may come back to the question of desirability later on.
Is it a combination of different materials?
Is it a geographical/physical feature?
Is it something one might have in one's home?
[Boolbar] No.
[Chalky] No.
[Raak] No.
Is it connected with the weather?
Is it the Moon?
Is there only one of this item?
Is it a particular object made of a particular substance, rather than the raw substance itself?
e.g. "diamonds", rather than "carbon".
[Chalky] No.
[Raak] No.
[Boolbar] *Murmur of interest ripples through the audience. Whispers of "interesting question" and "how can he answer that one accurately?".* Yes. Or, possibly, no.
[Riff] *More murmurs of excitement.*. If you had not supplemented the question, the answer to it would have been "Yes".
Is it an element?
[Boolbar] No.
Advance warning: I will be away from a PC for most of the afternoon and evening. I'll try to answer questions before I leave the office, but otherwise will probably not be able to get back on line between 2.00pm and 9.00pm tonight.
Is it larger than a telephone box?
Is it the Kaaba?
Might it be found underwater?
Is it found on this planet?
Is the object made from stone?
[Chalky] No.
[Raak] No.
[Breadmaster] No.
[Boolbar] Yes.
[Inkspot] Yes.
Is it a monument of some sort?
Is it presently located in only one country?
The Elgin Marbles?
The Rosetta Stone?
Is it *part* of a manmade thing (eg one of the stones in Stonehenge)?
Bear in mind here that the thing is neither a geographical feature nor manmade...
The Blarney Stone?
Going.....going.....
[Raak] No.
[Inkspot] I would refer the Hon. gentlemen to my answer to Boolbar's third question earlier today.
[Boolbar] No.
[Chalky] No.
[Breadmaster] No. It is itself, the thing, and what it is, too (A-hehhh-hehhh-hem!)
Nothing more from me until 9.00pm tonight.
Boolbar No3
How does Boolbar's third question
Is there only one of this item?your reply; Yes. Or, possibly, no
answer my question
Is it presently located in only one country
Is it a fossil?
The Stone of Destiny? (Also called the Stone of Scone.)
They may tak oor lives, but they will nivver tak oor friddom!
[Software] (Apologies for not having spotted your last posting.) No.
[Inkspot] I must confess I had some misgivings as to the quality of my response to your question. Boolbar's 3rd question was "Is there only one of this item? The strict answer to that question would be "Yes", but, it is alleged, there is at least one copy and there is some controversy as to which, if any, is the "real" one. The English, the Scots and the Irish all believe that they have the "one true stone". Given the rules of the game, I thought that my answer would be allowable. Turning to your question, "Is is presently located in only one country?", I considered that, given the (disputed) existence of at least one (alleged) fake, the same answer could be given. The strict answer to your question would, of course, have been "Yes" on the basis that the real one, to the extent that it even exists, could only be located in one country. I trust you will forgive me.
[Boolbar, again] No.
[Raak] YES! The answer is, indeed, the fabled Stone of Scone.
*Shouts of "Och, Aye!", "Hoots!" and "Nac Mac Feegle!" from the audience.*
 The stone belongs under a Chair, which now passes to Raak, with compliments.
Aye, 'tis a braw bricht moonlicht nicht the nicht, is it no?

Ahem. The next object is VEGETABLE.

Is it a living organism?
Raak]Congtrats on another superb win
Kim]The apology should be mine for not appreciating that the answer was the same and for the unintended brusque nature of the posting.
[Inkspot] No.
Is it edible?
Good guess, Raak. I'm determined to get one of these one of these days!
Is it a cricket bat?
Is it native to the UK?
Has it undergone a process of some kind to be in its present form?
[Inkspot] No offence taken, I promise.
[Breadmaster] Yes.
[Inkspot] Therefore, no.
[Software] Well, either maybe, or no. See the answer to Kim.
[Kim] Yes.
Is it associated with a cuisine from a particular country?
Although it is edible, is it usually thought of as something to eat?
[Inkspot] Not really.
[Boolbar] Yes.
Its not a tin of exploding peas, is it?
- topical, topical...!
Baked beans?
Does it contain fruit?
[Kim] No. [Software] No. [Boolbar] No.
Is it a vegetable?
Was it A vegetable?
oops
ignored the warning, sorry
[Inkspot] No. That is, it is VEGETABLE in terms of the game, but it does not contain anything ordinarily called a vegetable.
Is it usually consumed in solid form?
Is it somthing made from several ingredients like a jelly or a cake?
[Boolbar] Yes.
[Inkspot] Yes.
Compote?
[Software] No.
Is it usually served hot?
[Boolbar] No.
Are the ingredients all mixed together to form one homogenous product?
Is it a type of cake? cheeky supplementary question,Welsh cake?
[Kim] No. [Inkspot] No, hence no.
Is it seen as a seasonal food?
such as say a salad
Does it contain chocolate?
Is it sweet?
Confiture
It's Jam. With whole lumps of fruit in it. And my guess would be strawberry.
Is it trifle?
[Inkspot] No.
[Boolbar] Yes, and a ripple of applause from the audience.
[phahad] Despite the chocolate content, you wouldn't really think of this as being sweet.
[penelope] Not any sort of jam, marmalade, fruit preserve, or thing of like nature.
[Kim] No.
Would you describe it as being minty?
Is it made with choux pastry?
Exlax?
Is it a breakfast cereal?
Forget the homogenous choux pastry,(not paying attention....again!)
[phahad, Inkspot, Software, Inkspot] No.
Is it something contained within chocolate?
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[Boolbar] Yes.
Is it cocoa/cacao (bean or otherwise)?
[LotUS] I've already said it contains chocolate.
Er... a chocolate-covered billiard ball?
Wait a minute...
Boolbar - Does it contain chocolate?

Raak [Boolbar] Yes, and a ripple of applause from the audience.

Boolbar - Is it something contained within chocolate?

Raak [Boolbar] Yes.

I'm sorry. All I can say is.....WHAT?!
Is it a brand name?
Hmm. Another paradox strikes. Probably a good job there's no emaG esreveR here...
A chocolate centred chocolate covered caramel?
[ZK] I can't get past the 'not being sweet' thing either.
Straightening the way
[ZK] I took Boolbar's first question to mean, does the thing partly consist of chocolate? It does. I took his second question to mean, does the thing consist of chocolate enclosing something else? It does.
[barbacoa] No. Concerning sweetness, I personally wouldn't call chocolate sweet, especially plain chocolate. The thing that it is enclosing is certainly not sweet at all.
[Everyone] So, what unsweet vegetable thing might be coated with chocolate? I'm sure the answer will be waiting for me in the morning.
Oops, missed Riff's question. No, not a chocolate-covered billiard ball. (I think the billiard ball would be either ANIMAL or MINERAL, depending on its source.)
Is it those chocolate-covered coffee bean things you get in places like Starbucks?
We have a winner!
[Kim] Yes, it is indeed chocolate-coated coffee beans.
*blushes*
I'm so sorry, everyone. I feel I have once again crept up on the side rail and snuck in while others' back were turned. Oh, well, what the hell...
ANIMAL
I'm off to Milton Keynes now, so no responses to questions until about 9.00am GMT tomorrow. Line 'em up!
Is it human?
Is it a single, living organism?
Do worms get married?
Is it/are some of them alive just now?
Has someone been tapping my brainwaves?
[Breadmaster] No.
[Inkspot] Yes.
[Raak]Yes.
Is it a worm?
Native UK?
*Aaaargh* - Rewind!!!!
My response to Raak's last question contained a typographical error. The answer to his question is not, in fact, "Yes", but "No". Apologies to all for being asleep at the keyboard. Boolbar and Software invited to review their last questions in the light of this.
Does it end in "Saurus" ?
Was it native to a region of the world?
[Boolbar] No.
[Inkspot] My research indicates that the answer to your question is Yes.
Was it alive at any time since 1900?
How old?
[Raak] No.
Dodo?
Is it the pre-historic single-cell Radiolaria?
[Boolbar] No.
[Inkspot] No.
Is it a reptile?
Could it fly?
Was it a sea creature?
Clarification plase
Living or dead? Does the answer to Inkspot's first question mean that it is alive right now, or merely that it was alive when it, er, was alive?
Oooh, aaah!
[Inkspot] My research indicates that the answer to your question is "No".
[Boolbar] Yes. *Excited murmurs and a burst of applause from the audience.*
Is it a fossilised bird?
Clarification plase (sic)
*Struggles to resist urge to answer Raak's question with "Yes". Just succeeds.*
[Raak] My answer to Inkspot's first question may be interpreted to mean that, when they were alive (which, clearly, from my answer to your first question, they no longer are) they were individual, living organisms. I trust this is clear.
[Inkspot] Yes.
Archaeopteryx?
Paleontologists unite!
[Boolbar] Yes!
Boolbar wins by a head from Inkspot! The answer is indeed Archaeopteryx.
I was hoping someone would go for Pterodactyl first, so that I could come back with a witty remark about how I thought that was a verse form, but never mind. I pass the Chair in Jurassic Studies over to Boolbar, with compliments.
Yey!
Thank you! From an old bird to the next mystery item . . . ABSTRACT.
Is it a human concept
Standard opening
[Software] Yes it is. (standard answer)
Is it pleasant?
* collective sharp intake of breath as the audience first marvel at Boolbar's knowledge of flying creatures that have been dead for ages ... then break into well-deserved applause*
Takes a bow
[Chalky] It might be, but then again it might not be. Or then again, the question might not have any meaning.
Is it an emotion?
It's not The Matrix or some philosophical thing like that is it?
Is it the mind?
As technically speaking, the mind is not regarded as animal (apparently)
Was it ever thought of before the seventeenth century?
Another day, another question.
[Tuj] No.
[Zooo Keeper] No.
[Breadmaster] Yes.
Manichaeanism?
Wot?
[Raak] *looks in a dictionary* No. This game is sure educational!
Is it connected with religion?
[Raak] No. It's a very general thing so I'm sure it could be said to be connected with lots of things if you really wanted to try and find connections.
Do animals have this concept also?
Does it have its origins in philosophical writings?
Is it 'thought'?
"Manichaean (n): Someone from Manchester."
[Tuj] I wouldn't have thought so, but you never can tell . . .
[Kim] No.
[Riff] No.
BTW, saying that it is a human concept might lead you astray. If all life vanished from this planet (or any planet for that matter) then it could be argued that this concept still existed. A bit like the tree falling in the forest when there is no-one around making a sound.
Is it, therefore, logic?
Donning thoughtful Bertrand Russell pose.
[Software] No.
Is it life itself?
[Boolbar] Isn't it arguable that a concept must de facto be capable of conception (by beings capable of thought) and that if all life on any planet vanished then there would be nothing left capable of abstract thought and, accordingly, the concept itself would cease to exist. *Lao Tse: "When a tree falls in a forest and you are not there to hear it, does it make a sound?"
Lord Vetinari: "Yes."
Lao Tse: "How do you know?"
Lord Vetinari: "My sources are generally reliable."*
[Kim] No. oh, and yes I agree it is arguable.
Can you give us a clue? :)
Clueless
[ZK] Yes, I will if no-one has got it by tomorrow.
Is it the passage of time?
Can it be expressed in equations?
Audience start muttering and saying "ooooh"
[Chalky] No. But you have come out of the snow and are warming your toes in front of the fire whilst supping from a good hot soup.
[Ibid] I can see a way of doing it but it isn't something that you would expect to see in an equation.
Life, the universe and everything?
Or is it the restaruant at the end of the universe?
The ageing process?
[Software] No on both counts, but I guess the second question allows you to look at the fire through a telescope from about a mile away.
[Chalky] No. Could you put your soup down and move away from the fire please?
Finality? as in The End?
[Chalky] No. *opens door for Chalky*
Nostalgia?
[Boobar] Aha ... so I was closer with the passage of time thing then?
Is is Death?
I'll repeat that: "Is it death?"
[Chalky] No. *hands back her soup*
[Kim] No. *opens door a crack so Kim can see inside*
Evolution?
Darn you Boobar! I'm supposed to be cooking dinner, now I'll be glued to this until it's resolved :-)
Is it the Afterlife?
Is it purely a temporal phenomenon?
[Chalky] No
[Kim] No
[Ibid] I'd say it always exists (but with above silent tree argument noted).
C'mon let's get this cracked before tomorrow!
Is its time zones and British Summer Time?
Coming in late, been at home on leave and hardly managed to get near the pc, things to etc....makes note for back at the office must remember to work;)
Resurrection?
Tricky this.
Reincarnation?
[Inkspot] No, but you are in the right area.
[Tuj] No.
[Kim] No.
I may or may not be around until Monday. Hopefully someone will have a brainwave tomorrow.
Is it a measurement of time?
...not quite tomorrow yet where I am...
Is it a phrase to describe a 'time' event? or a phrase with a time element?
first example-high noon or sunset.
second example 'golden years/days'
Good guess, that. When you're metaphorical, you can't go wrong in terms of abstract.
The answer never comes . . . .
[Tuj] Not quite.
[Inkspot] Yes!! (to first part).
Is it one of the Seasons?
Or am I going too broad with this again?
Is it a relative time phrase?
As in yesterday, tomorrow, or the like, I mean.
Is it the passage of time?
This month?
[Kim] Bzzzzt - Repetition!
Is it "Now"?
[Chalks] Saaary! Must remember to read through previous postings....
...on which the sun never sets.
Bit of a long explanation this. Some mumbling and rambling. My assumption begins with some events such as calender months and weeks are subjective 'man-made'. On the moon with on side always in the dark the normal definition of night/day does not apply nor would yesterday,sunsets/dawn, time zones etc.. I've tried to word the question to avoid confusion with as seen from earth events, eg crescent moon, except eclipses.
1. Does it occur on the moon, if you were to live there?
2. Does it occur on earth and on moon?
3. Is it subjective man made??
The more I try to think the more I get confused ;)
Do I have to mention it again?
[Zooo K] No.
[Tuj] Yes! *An audience member faints, the rest gasp*
[Kim] No.
[Chalky] No. But the right area (see answer to Tuj)
[Kim] No.
[Inkspot] (1) I suppose you could define it on the moon using some sort of astronomic framework. (2) It occurs on the Earth because we have defined it. If we visited the moon, we would just use the Earth system and definition. (3) Taking your definition, yes. The more I try and answer these questions, the more I get confused.
Is it one of the seasons? a previous season?
bzzzzt
Repetition!
Does it descibe a period of more than seven days?
ZK]apologies, and only six moves previous. I promise not to do it again till next time.
Back tomorrow
[Inkspot] No to both!
Big Clue
Tuj came the closest - in fact I could give it to him, but he didn't put something in the right place. . .
Is it 'today'?
Or just a day?
Nostalgic for yesterday! Not me I'm far too busy, it's not like in the old days but then the summers were longer and hotter.
...and on the moon there is only today, there is no yesterday and tomorrow never comes...Mr Bond
An answer, an answer, there's always an answer . . .
[ZK] Try again . . .
[Inkspot] Is there a question in there (or an answer?)
The answer has been mentioned so many times but not as an answer.
I think it has to be "tomorrow".
...but, if it is, I shall abrogate the Chair in favour of Tuj.
Boolbar]I was hoping Tuj was around to step in and take the chair, but he does not seem to have been around much yesterday.
Heaves huge sigh of relief.
[Kim] It is indeed. If you want to give it to Tuj then by all means do so.

* Audience awakens from a long snooze and breaks into huge applause shouting out Kim and Tuj's names and slapping Inkspot on the back before dashing for the toilets *

plaudits
Well done Kim & Tuj et al. Last night, on returning from 36 hours of 'celebrating', I was surprised to find that this one hadn't been 'nailed'. Good choice Boobar :-)
re: the next one - I think whoever is 'around' now and for the next few hours should take the chair.
We want Tuj!
Where is Tuj based? If he's out of commission for any reason, then I'll supply the next one, but I propose to wait until 5.00pm UK time, to give Tuj a chance to play. Any objections to this?
Waaaah! Combination of monitor failure at work (not to mention the slowest-responding IT helpdesk in Europe and a son distinctly under the weather at home have prevented me from posting since this lunchtime. Sorry, one and all for the hiatus. OK, I see that Tuj is otherwise occupied, so I will take the chair once more. OK, since collaborations seem to be all the rage (cf. Britney, featuring Madonna), lets say: Abstract, featuring Vegetable.
Is the vegetable a food item?
Is it a biological process, like transpiration?
Is it a musical group?
like Boyzone featuring Robbie Williams?
Is it a figurative vegetable?
E.g. the apple of one's eye, the tree of life, etc.
Is it an insult, like Turnip Head?
Ping!
[Riff] Yes.
[ZK] No.
[Dazed5] No.
[Raak] Yes.
[Software] No.
Is the vegetable a fruit?
The Great Pumpkin?
Is it the title of a book and/or film?
Is it chocolate?
[Chalky] Yes.
[Raak] You're a good man, Charlie Brown, but no.
[Boolbar] Yes.
[Lib] No.
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes?
Some people classify tomatoes as a fruit.
Are Oranges the Only Fruit?
Is it a recent book/film .... say post - 1990?
Temparature's rising...
[Raak] Super, but no.
[Inkspot] No.
[Chalky] No.
The Grapes of Wrath?
James and the Giant Peach?
oops - too recent.
Peachy
[BtD] The book isn't.
Four Weddings and a Banana?
A clockwork orange?
Here we go round the Mulberry Bush?
only guessed this after discounting Last Mango in Paris
Boolbar wins again!
Another fine drop goal sails majestically between the uprights from the golden boot of Boolbar. The answer is, indeed, Steinbeck's searing indctment and merciless evocation of loss and displacement, The Grapes of Wrath.
Consolation prizes to Software and Dazed5 - there must be a new game in there somewhere (perhaps a replacement for the current Pants game, which, to my mind, had run its course some time ago).
The Chair passes to Boolbar.
* audience, having just got settled, tosses aside popcorn and malteser boxes, and erupts into noisy raucous cheering for Boolbar - who has proved himself master of the Abstract Vegetable genre*
Surprised
Oooh, better do a quickie then. Animal
Is it a ... erm .... 'quick' animal?
Is it a person? are they alive?
[Chalky] Depends what you compare with. Faster than a dead tortoise, slower than a tortoise traveling at the speed of light.
[Inkspot] Yes, and yes.
Is he a he?
I was hoping to do a line about "It it a quick animal, as opposed to a dead animal?" Never mind....
[Kim] He is a he.
Osama bin Laden?
[Raak] No.
Is this person an artist of some kind?
As opposed to a big-nosed, pointy-chinned, syrup-wearing, washed up light-entartainment has-been, like for instance Bruce Forsyth.
George Bush?
A politician?
American?
Aan]
Please tell me it isn't a rugby player.
An actor?
oops pressed return instead of shift
Is he a writer?
Is it J. Wilkinson, the flavour of the week?
Waking from a slumber, I spotted that I almost won something up there. Never mind. Thanks, Kim - I don't think I'm on here frequently enough to be the chair for this fast-paced game!
No to you all!
[Dazed5] No. Although aren't we all artists in some way?
[Software] No.
[Raak] No.
[Riff] No.
[Breadmaster] No.
[Inkspot] No.
[Kim] No, he doesn't write for a living.
[Tuj] No.
British?
Is it an active sportman or has he retired?
[Breadmaster] Oh yes.
[Inkspot] Oh no. Not a sportsman - not retired.
Is he a TV presenter?
Ian Huntley?
Morbid - I know, but I had to get off my chest.
[Chalky] No.
[Inkspot] No.
A musician?
Does he have a connection with ISIHAC?
[Inkspot] No.
[Raak] Ooooh, there is a vague connection. * audience look interested *
Is he a known homosexual?
Just trying to narrow it down, you understand.
Is he an actor?
Does he work for one of the major UK broadcasting organisations (albeit not in an acting, writing, musical, TV presenting or sporting capacity?
)?
[Breadmaster] No.
[Dazed5] No, he still isn't. (See answer to Inkspot above).
[Kim] No.
Is he funny?
Is he a chef?
[Lib] He doesn't make people laugh for a living (he's not an entertainer).
[Inkspot] No.
Is he known primarily for appearances on TV or radio?
Does he read the News?
Or would that be regarded as an entainer? hmmmmm....
swap:- entainer/entertainer
Ian Hislop?
Is he involved with production or direction?
Is he alive?
[Breadmaster] No.
[Lib] Not out loud, but he probably does read newspapers. :o)
[Inkspot] No.
[Chalky] No.
[Software] Yes.

Clue - that vague connection that I mentioned, is it staring you in the face?

Is he a normal guy who acheived some fame, or infamy?
Apologies for my repetition above. We can, therefore, conclude he is not an actor.
[Dazed5] Yes, he's a normal guy. No he's not had his 15 minutes of fame yet.
Is it YOU [+y]?
And if not, is it one of us?
Is it me?
Deep Breath
[Chalky] You are correcto!!!!!!
I was going to pick someone else, but if the questions got too personal then I know a lot about me.

* Audience applaudes Chalky's sudden insight and carries her aloft to the chair chanting her name *

*makes the sound of one hand clapping*
Wahay
Gosh - that was a surprise. Now for a *V E G E T A B L E*
Is it edible to humans?
Ruling out such things as dining room tables
Is 'a' vegetable a clue?
A carrot?
Well, a basic answer's not out of the question, surely?
Dazed - No, not really, although it wouldn't kill you if you did eat it.
Duj - It isn't a clue :-)
Beth - No [basic answer :-)]
Is it a *product* made from vegetable materials?
Can't think of an example, but still...
Is it something made of wood?
Is it something manufactured?
Does it float on water?
Is it made of paper?
sorry to keep you waiting ....
Beth - Yes
Riff - No
Raak - Yes
Boolbar - Yes
Bob - No
Is it something made by humans in order to travel on water?
Is it more usually manufactured by hand, rather than by automated process?
Does it have moving parts?
Is it an item of furniture? A table perhaps?
Boolbar - No
Kim - Both nowadays
Breadmaster - No
Hi Lib :-) - No
Is it woven?
Do you own one?
..... (or more)?
Is it wicker-work?
Is it a piece of clothing?
Although a towel for example can be 'worn' it is not clothing, but a dressing gown as a piece of clothing could be made from towelling.
Is is machine-washable?
Does it have a specific colour?
Did they have it in the Middle Ages?
Did they have it in the Stone Ages?
back from lunch
Raak - No
Boolbar - Not at the moment ... therefore No to second question
Bob - No
Inkspot - No
Kim - No
rab - Yes
Breadmaster - Interesting. Define Middle Ages and I can give you a more specific answer.
Beth - No
Is it larger than a phone book?
rab - No, not usually. Extreme examples might be.
Is it manufactured for specific purpose or function?
Inkspot - Yes
Is it white?
Is it from the husk of a nut?
Boolbar - No
Inkspot - No
Is it orange?
Is it coal?
Is it a book?
Boolbar - No [but close]
Raak - No
Lib - No

Nobody has really guessed even close so far. A combination of Dazed's original question and Raak's recent question - even though they both received a 'No' might give some direction.

Is it a liquid?
Boolbar - No
ooooops
Sorry Boolbar - that was ME appropriating your name without permission :-)
Just a thought - I am assuming you meant the colour orange as opposed to the fruit orange in your last question? If you meant the fruit, then the answer is an even more resounding No.
Does it readily combust?
Is it amber ?
As in Jurrasic Park trapped mosquito
A charcoal biscuit?
back from 'Oklahoma' rehearsal
Tuj - Yes [excellent question]
Inkspot - amber-coloured? sort of
Raak - No
Is a produced from a particular vegetable ?
Inkspot - Yes
Is it brandy?
Is it any alcoholic liquid?
D'oh, it's not a liquid at all. Ignore me.
Is it anything to do with wax?
*random guessage*
To recap
vegetable

not edible to humans although it wouldn't kill you if you did eat it

"a" vegetable isn't a clue

not a carrot

Is a product made from vegetable materials

Not made of wood

something manufactured

Floats on water

not made of paper

not something made by humans in order to travel on water

Nowadays it is both manufactured by hand and by automated process

does not have moving parts

Not an item of furniture (including a table)

Not woven

Chalky does not currently own any

not wicker work

not a piece of clothing

not machine washable

has a specific colour

depending on your definition of middle ages, they might or might not have had it then

didnt have them in the stone ages

not usually larger than a phone book but extreme examples might be

manufactured for specific purpose or function

not white

not from the husk of a nut

not orange (but orange is close)

Not coal

not a book

It readily combusts

is not amber but as a colour is close

not a charcoal biscuit

is produced from a particular vegetable

Arriving late - as usual
A tennis ball?
Is it a animal feed for cows?
thanking ZK for recap
ZK - No, nothing to do with wax
Dujon - No
Inkspot - No

I'm trying to think of a clue that doesn't give away the answer, although 24 hours is probably quite long enough to be guessing something as straightforward as this. The recap didn't mention my clue so to reiterate: Tuj's question should lead you straight to it. The ambiguity of its 'edibility' is also relevant.

Whisky?
Oops, it's already been said to be not a liquid.
A cork?
Raak - No. The whisky guess was closer :-)
Is it something you would apply to the outside of the body?
Methylated spirits?
Would it normally be found in a kitchen?
Raak - You would not 'apply' it, but you would 'do' something with it.
Inkspot - No
Dazed - It could be found anywhere.
Is it a kumquat?
Hmm - not particularly combustable.
Cointreau?
Bob - No & No and 'combustible' is the key word, but I've been hinting at that for some time.

clue: Within the last month, several new games have started in the three MC servers. One of them is very closely connected with this object.

A cigar?
A packet of Woodbine cigarettes?
At last! The answer is A CIGAR. Well done Raak.
*polite round of applause from the sudience*
cigars aren't orange!
Who said they were?
Thank you, thank you, and the next object is MINERAL.
is it an element?
Is it something made from a mineral substance, as opposed to the mineral itself?
Learning from the masters....
[Beth] No.
[Kim] It is something made.
Have been watching this recently, hope no-one minds if I join in! Is it hard?
In a word...
Well, yeah. But it seems you get better with practice.
Is it hard?
No, I meant is the object hard
Aah..
Well, I'll join in with that I think!
Is it a liquid?
[Uno] Yes, and therefore [Beth] No.
Is it something manufactured for a specific purpose?
Unashamedly nicking questions from Inkspot...
Is the finished item wholly of man made materials?
Does it have any practical use in someone's line of work?
Apologises and hangs head in shame for earlier ineptitude
Is it valuable?
[Beth] Yes.
[Inkspot] Yes.
[Uno] Not specifically: anyone would have a practical use for it.
[Lib] No. (Amused murmurs from audience.)
Is it manufactured from a single material (element, compound or mixture) or more than one?
Is it manufactured from a single material (element, compound or mixture)?
Oops
Is it Fool's Gold?
Except that's naturally occuring...
Did they have it between the years c.800 and c.1500?
Shamelessly carrying on with my question from the last round here. It was of no help then, it's probably of no help here.
Does it have a practical application?
You are most welcome Uno!
[Uno] Yes (it is either from either a single material or from more than one); No (not made from a single material).
[rab] No.
[Breadmaster] No.
[Btd] Yes (already had that one).
Is it a coin?
Used in the home?
Does it use electricity?
Is it made from a particular metal?
[Chalky] No.
[plump] Not specifically: it can be (and is) used almost anywhere.
[Btd] I had to look on the web to answer this: no.
[Inkspot] No.
Could you buy one in a typical hardware store?
[Riff] No.
To amplify my answer to Inkspot: it is made of metal, but while there are no doubt metals which are more or less well suited to the purpose, it is not part of its nature to actually be made of a particular metal.
Does it have moving parts?
Does it tell the time?
[Inkspot] Yes.
[Chalky] YES!! (round of applause)
deliberately not guessing ...
... so that someone else can have a turn :-)
A watch?
May as well get the easy one out of the way.
Is it a digital watch?
Since Raak had to look it up on the internet, and I can't believe he wouldn't have heard of clockwork watches, so it has to be a type of timepiece that you'd think would need a battery - except there are those kinetic ones which apparently don't. Hence my guess.
A carriage clock?
available as wedding gifts in either clockwork or with batteries(not included)
A Rolex Cosmograph Daytona?
Following Ibid's comments I shall have to be more specific.
[rab] Yes.
[Ibid] No. (Some clockwork watches are driven by a quartz crystal powered by a battery, but as far as I can determine, all of the watches in question are entirely mechanical.)
[Inkspot] No.
[rab] *mixture of applause and laughter from the audience* Definitely not.
A Mickey Mouse Watch?
Is it a wristwatch?
As opposed to a pocket-watch or some other type.
Is it a pocket-watch?
As opposed to a wristwatch or some other type ;)
[Btd] No.
[Riff] Yes.
[barbacoa] No.

The sharks are circling around the mystery object...

A hint: this type of wristwatch is definitely not valuable, made of a specific metal, or a Rolex Cosmograph Daytona.

A timex?
[Riff] Actually, I don't know who makes these. One thing is certain, the maker's name does not appear on them.
Was Bob the dog close in guessing it as a "character" watch?
Have you got one?
[Z.K.] No.
[Btd] No.

Hint: it is not a Rolex.

Is it a *fake* Rolex?
It is indeed a fake Rolex.
aaaaaaaargh!
ooh! popped up randomly and guessed the answer right! goodness me! Okay. Um...give me a few minutes while I think of something!
Wahey!
Okay. The next object is VEGETABLE.
Edible?
Standard opening.
[BtD] Technically, yes, but I don't know anyone who would.
Is it a manufactured object?
Hate having to answer vaguely!
[Raak] No. If it was (in this case) I'd have to call it mineral.
Coal?
Ooh
[BtD] No.
Oil (the stuff pumped out of the ground)?
Still vegetable
[Raak] No. I thought oil was made of long-dead sea creatures that had been crushed and whatnot?
Is it something made from a vegetable?
[Beth] No.
Is wood involved?
Isn't oil made of fossilised vegetable matter, like coal? Particularly squishy vegetable matter, maybe...
Lol at squishy
[Breadmaster] Yes. I don't know about the composition of oil, to be honest. But let's just say for now, definitively, it is not oil.
Is it something fashioned (ie manufactured, to go back to Raak's first question) from vegetable matter?
Eg: Vegemite.
Is it wood from a particular tree?
Is it hard?
[Kim] No.
[Inkspot] Yes....mostly (audience muttering excitedly)
[rab] Hard or solid?
A cricket bat?
[Riff] No.
I'm worried my answer to Inkspot's question might be a bit misleading...
A Christmas tree ?
'Twas the first day of advent, and all through the house...

Yes! It is indeed A Christmas Tree. Not very challenging then, but worth a go!
Over to Inkspot!
*peels off the label from computer reminding self of own answer :)*
Cheers and wild clapping as Inkspot flicks the switch on the lights of the Christmas Tree.
lucky guess
ZK]Your clues at the end about a tree were just enough to tip the balance.

...and the next one please, Vegetable *gasps from the audience*

Sprouts?
Is this vegatable associated with Christmas dinner?
Is it edible?
Whether or not that would preclude its being sprouts, I won't comment.
Is it native to the UK?
and we're off...
[Bob the dog]No
[Kim] No
Bread Master [No] But this is misleading as the 'whatever it is', is not meant to be eaten but eating it would do you no harm, "Edible-Something fit to be eaten" def Dictionary .com
[Software]No
A banana skin?
Orange peel?
[Raak] No
[Kim] No
Would it be classed as a fruit?
[Software] No
Is it customarily eaten by some animal?
Is it processed an any way?
[Raak]No
[Bob the dog] Yes
Is it something made of paper?
And if so, is it the recently-released fifth book in Stephen King's Dark Tower series, Wolves of the Calla?
Might it be found in the average household?
Is a beverage made from this?
[Riff]No *oooo's, two claps and a murmur from the back row * what do you mean harsh.
[Breadmaster] Yes *brief clapping and a cheer from the back*
[Dazed5] Yes *more clapping and a chair from the back falls over*
A tea-bag?
Coffee beans?
[Raak] YES!
[Riff]No
A Tea bag it is, well done Raak, your chair is ready, two secs while I rearrange the cushions to how you like them ;)

The next object is MINERAL.
Is it found in the average home?
I am going to get one of these, doggonnit!
[Bm] No.

Come to think it of, I'm not entirely sure what this is made of. It's at least partly MINERAL, but might be partly VEGETABLE.

Is it often seen on a road-side?
Is is manufactured?
[Boolbar] No.
[Lib] Yes.
Could I use it to shelter from the rain?
[Boolbar] Yes.
Is it colourful?
[Lib] No.
Is it movable?
Is it bigger than an averaged sized car?
Well - is it an umbrella?
[DrQ] With difficulty, even if it isn't screwed down.
[Lib] No.
[Wol] No. (You could use it to shelter from the rain, but that's not its purpose.)
Is there more than one of these?
Could it be a form of transport?
[Boolbar] Yes.
[Bm] Er...no. (Audience goes "oooooooooh".)
Is it some form of structure?
Does it have moving parts (even when screwed down)?
Is it something that would normally be screwed down?
[Dazed5] Yes.
[Chalky] No.
[Riff] Well, fixed in some way, yes.
Does it use electricity?
A tent?
[DrQ] Yes.
[Software] No.
Is it a telephone box?
wild cheers
[rab] Oooh, sort of.
One of those tardis/police box things you get in Edinburgh?
Or some sort of booth? Maybe Cherie?
Just recapping
MINERAL. At least partly MINERAL, but might be partly VEGETABLE.
Is it found in the average home? No
Is it often seen on a road-side? No
Is it manufactured? Yes
Could I use it to shelter from the rain? Yes
Is it colourful? No
Is it movable? With difficulty, even if it isn't screwed down.
Is it bigger than an averaged sized car? No
is it an umbrella? No. (You could use it to shelter from the rain, but that's not its purpose.)
Is there more than one of these? Yes
Could it be a form of transport? Er...no. (Audience goes "oooooooooh".)
Is it some form of structure? Yes
Does it have moving parts (even when screwed down)? No
Is it something that would normally be screwed down? Well, fixed in some way, yes.
Does it use electricity? Yes
A tent? No.
Is it a telephone box? Audience - wild cheers Oooh, sort of.
[rab] I think rab gets the prize. It is a police box.
Audience cheers, claps, and goes wild for rab.
So not Cherie Booth then...
Predictable, I know, but this one's ABSTRACT.
Is it natural?
... as opposed to 'created'.
Well done rab. I've always wondered what a police box was - and now I am none the wiser :-)
Is there only one of these?
So if police boxes are not often seen on road sides, where are they often seen then?
Is it fictional?
[Boolbar] They aren't, these days.
Should be working...
[Chalky] Yes.
[Boolbar] No.
[Raak] No.

The only place I've ever seen police boxes is in Edinburgh. Some are now used as police 'info boxes' (with a computer touch screen thinghy), others have been converted to coffee-vending booths.

Is it pleasant?
Would it exist if humankind didn't?
Is it a mathematical entity?
Effective repulsion
[Chalky] It can be.
[Boolbar] Yes.
[Raak] *an audience member nods sagely*... but no.
Is it something astronomical?
Like the orbit of Jupiter, the age of the universe, the constellation Orion, etc.
Has it always been known about?
Would it exist if there were no animals?
[Raak] No.
[Inkspot] I would say so.
[Breadmaster] Yes.
Is it anything to do with the passing of time?
Can we measure it in any way?
[Dazed5] No.
[Boolbar] Nnnyieahh... Possibly, although I probably wouldn't follow this avenue of thought just now.
Would a child [under age of 10] know about this?
Is it a natural reoccuring event?
[Chalky] Oh yes.
[Inkspot] No.
Can we see it occuring?
[Boolbar] We can see it, but it's not something that occurs.
Is it a term for a collection things?
When we see it, does it usually have the same colour (if any)?
[Inkspot] No.
[Boolbar] Yes. *Audience begins whispering excitedly*

I have a feeling Boolbar really wants to get this one...

Is it the sky?
Is it a symbol of some sort?
So, if it doesn't occur does that mean its there all the time?
Is it a rainbow?
[rab] I'm just bored . . . .
[Breadmaster, Raak] No.
[Lib] Um. I could get all philosophical and ask how would we tell... All I can say is that it just 'is'...
[Boolbar] No.
Shadows ?
Not the guitar plucking popular beat combo.
A reflection?
[Boolbar, Chalky] No.

I'd like to offer a hint without giving the game away, but I'm finding that difficult so I shall say for now that the the last three guesses are quite cold.

Is it light?
[Breadmaster] Warmer.
Is this detectable by any of our other senses apart from vision?
Darkness?
[Dazed5] No.
[Raak] I think you want to go back the way Breadmaster came from.
Is it anything to do with the seasons?
Is it something that produces light?
Is it a *kind* of light?
Like sunlight, starlight, moonlight, etc...
Is it a Sunset?
Sneaking in half-way through the class and looking over the shoulders of other students....
Photosynthesis?
Can it be seen underground?
Is it the colour green?
Moonlight?
Is it a superintelligent shade of anything?
Is it the light that shines out of someones backside?
All good guesses, but only one of them is right. And the winner is...

*Fanfare*

Chalky! Yes it was green. I had considered peach puff, but thought I might get lynched.

*curtsies to fanfare*
That'll teach me to take some time to read the questions and replies. That's the first time I've actually deduced the answer [and rab - peach puff would have been my next guess] :-)

And now, a nice easy peasy * A N I M A L *

Is it a whole animal or some part of an animal?
Is it a person?
cutting to the chase
Boolbar - Neither, because ....
Inkspot - Yes [but you're only part way there]
Is it a player of MC?
[crosses fingers]
Are they female?
MF - Not that I know of :-)
Inkspot - No, they are not female
It is the England Rugby Team?
Is it a team of people who play a sport?
simulled
Kim, Boolbar - Neither - you can eliminate sport.
Is it a group of musicians?
Is it Sean Connery?
....as he watches Ursula Andres emerge from the sea in Dr No.
Ant and Dec?
whoever they are.
Are they all currently alive?
Is it more than one person?
sorry .... forgot I was in the chair
Uno - No
Inkspot - No
Software - No
Kim - No
rab - Yes
Were they royalty?
Were they a tribe?
(I would include Ancient Romans, Greeks etc in that definition).
Is it more than 4 people?
Inkspot - No
rab - No
Boolbar - No
Is it the triumvirate of Mark Antony, Lepidus, and Octavius Caesar?
The Holy Trinity?
(Although there'd be an argument for at least two of the three to be abstract)...
BM - Nah
rab - Nah [these peeps were unequivocally 'animal']

I'm Oklahoma-ing now until about 11.30 - please leave your questions/guesses in an orderly pile :-)

Was he a writer published before 1900?
Is it a film duo?
Ignore previous one about the writer, I blame my runny nose!
Are they English?
The Beatles?
Is it a famous duo?
eg morecambe and wise, fred astaire and ginger rogers...
Inkspot - Yes [2nd question]
Riff - No
Raak - No
ZK - Yes
Is it Laurel and Hardy?
Duuhh I'd like to blame my runny eyes for not seeing Inkspot's question! :)
ZK - No
It wasn't Fred and Ginger, was it?
ZK - It wasn't :-)
Is it Bob Hope and Bing Crosby?
R2D2 and C3PO?
Not being alive, technically they can presumably be considered as, well, not alive..
Leaping out of the hot seat .....
Dazed - YES!

* audience gasps in amazement at the audacity of Mr Dazed - then cheers wildly for a rare 'poachers victory' *

*whoops for Dazed5*
poachers victory?
ZK] poachers victory? - when someone 'steals' the game without doing any of the hard work :-) It happens.
Poachers victory
Thanks Chalklette. Next one up is ABSTRACT
A poachers victory?
Is it a human concept?
ZK - no
ZK - not a concept
is it weather-related?
Is is a condition or state of being?
Is it a fictional human ?
Is it a law of some kind?
Is it a sin?
Does it exsist?
Can I make one?
Sorry for the delay...so to work...
Riff, no.
Kim,on balance I would say yes.
BM, no.
Chalky, no.
Lib, yes it does exist.
Raak, you can but do not think of it in the singular..it is abstract.
Is it tangiable?
Or is it a feeling? love, for example.
A suggestion?
War?
Is it an action?
Lib, yes.
Lib, no.
Raak, no
Ibid, yes
Is it a gesture?
Is it an action expressed by a transitive verb?
Is it an action that a shark would normaly do?
Sorry software..missed you out from the above answers but it is not a suggestion.
Raak. It could be construed as being a gesture but it's more than that.
Kim. It is all that and much more.
Inkspot. Sharks may do this, I am no expert.
Is it naughty?
Is it a sense of humour?
Is it slapstick comedy?
Is the thing to which this is done another person?
Riff, it can be naughty.
rab, no.
BM, one person would do this with another person.
Is it dancing?
A sense of humour?
You missed out Chalky!
A kiss?
plump,no.
So sorry Chalky darling. It could be argued that a sense of humour is part of this, but it isn't the answer.
ZK, see above.
Raak, no.
Is it something the two people involved would enjoy?
Is it, in fact, the physical act of lovemaking?
Is it cutting hair?
Kim asks what we were all thinking...
But
Don't sharks have sex?
Raak, yes two people could enjoy this, but it is not necessarily confined to two, it can involve thousands.
Kim, no, not lovemaking or indeed sex in itself.
BM, no.
ZK, I guess they do but I am not entirely sure if they do this.
'Extra Clue' All the above mentioned activities take place after, and as a result of, this
Recapping as I do
ABSTRACT
A poachers victory? No
Is it a human concept? Not a concept
Is it weather-related? No
Is it a condition or state of being? On balance I would say yes.
Is it a fictional human? (No)
Is it a law of some kind? No
Is it a sin? No
Does it exist? Yes it does exist
Can I make one? You can but do not think of it in the singular...it is abstract.
Is it tangiable? Yes
Or is it a feeling? Love, for example.No
A suggestion? No
War? No
Is it an action? Yes
Is it a gesture? It could be construed as being a gesture but it's more than that.
Is it an action expressed by a transitive verb? It is all that and much more.
Is it an action that a shark would normally do? Sharks may do this, I am no expert.
Is it naughty? It can be naughty.
Is it a sense of humour? It could be argued that a sense of humour is part of this, but it isn't the answer.
Is it slapstick comedy? No. Is the thing to which this is done another person? One person would do this with another person.
Is it dancing? No
A kiss? No
Is it something the two people involved would enjoy? Yes two people could enjoy this, but it is not necessarily confined to two, it can involve thousands.
Is it, in fact, the physical act of lovemaking? No, not lovemaking or indeed sex in itself.
Is it cutting hair? No

'Extra Clue' All the above mentioned activities take place after, and as a result of, this.
Does it actually involve physical contact?
Looking back on that lot...
Could this be successfully done if the two people didn't speak the same language?
Is it a greeting?
ZK[nice recap]
ZK, It can involve contact, but it does not need to.
BM, It might be successful after much trying...*very big ooohs from the audience*
Sunday golf
Will be away for a few hours so I fully expect this to be nailed by then:)
Conversation?
Meeting and greeting?
V random guess as my mind is now going 'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh...'
Surfing the web?
I think I meant ....Surfing the 'net?
Wot about mine?
See above -- a greeting?
rab, close, very close, but its bigger than that. Conversation is a form of this.
ZK, as for rab.
Chalky, getting cooler.
Raak, sorry must have been a simulpost, you weren't there before. A greeting is part of this but it's the bigger picture I'm after.
Simply 'talking'?
Socializing?
rab, talking is certainly a form of this, but expand the idea.
Raak, socialising is again only a small part.
A conference?
Brain still v much in the argh department, but it's worth a try.
celebrating Christmas/
getting increasingly random
Society?
ZK, not a conference. People actually do this at a conference.
ZK, nothing to do with Christmas per se.
Raak, the 'conversation' tack was closer.
Communication?
aaah
sounds good to me rab!
Victorious rab
Crowd goes wild!.well done rab. Communication was precisely the word I was looking for.
Well done rab :-)
Intercourse!
Well, I wasn't that far wrong then, was I? Nice one, Rab.
Back in the chair.
Ok, to complete the set, this one's ANIMAL.
Colymbosathon ecplecticos?
Is that the dead fish with a big cock? Well, a humourist might make a connection.... but no.
Human animal?
Is it a reptile?
[Bob and Inkspot] Human.
Living?
Is it a specific person?
Female?
[Chalky] Probably.
[Raak] No.
[Dazed5] Not gender specific.
A group of humans?
[Bob] Ting! (That means 'yes' by the way).
A geographic grouping?
A group/crowd at a specific celebration?
[Bob] Yes.
[Inkspot] No.
English as first language?
Name given to people from a particluar city or town?
eg Londoners/Mancunians
I think either Bob or Inkspot's going to get this one :)...

[Bob] Straight answer: yes.
[Inkspot] No, but there are some murmerings in the audience.

From a particular country?
A particular group of musicians?
[Chalky] Yes, but Inkspot was closer with the previous question.
[Inkspot] No.
Glaswegians?
A group of NIMBY's? ;)
[Raak, Inkspot] No.

Maybe I should clarify - it's not a name given to people from a particular city or town, but they are associated with a particular city or town.

Pearly Kings and Queens?
Pie-eaters?
Manchester United fans?
[Inkspot, Chalky, Bob the dog] No.
Is the city or town in the U.K.?
[Raak] Yes.
Is the 'association' of an academic nature?
[Chalky] No.
Is it anything to do with sport?
Nope.
Isit in Southern England (south of Brum)?
*audience laughs* No.
Does the answer contain a number?
Yorkshiremen?
[Dazed5] No... but the audience likes the way you're thinking.
[ZK] No.
Is it a midlands city?
Is it in England?
[Dazed5] Yes, so...
[Raak] yes.
Are they a group of workers?
*Geography of England never was my strong point, (now if it was Wales!) off to find out where Strattford and potteries are, see you at work tommorrow!*
[Inkspot] They were.
The West Bromwich Seven?
The [some place] [some number]?
No, can't be, given the answer to Dazed5 a moment ago.
The [some place] [some collective concept that is not a number]?
Is it a Guild?
Someone in my office said Coventry was once a thiving wool town with a Cappers Guild - nothing to do with checking the tyre pressure at Longbridge then!
Anything to do with Stoke on Trent?
[Chalky] Does that exist? There might be a connection to something along these lines.
[Raak, 2nd question] Yes.
[Inkspot] Nope.
[Lib] Maybe, but not primarily.
Is there a connection to the Longbridge car plant?
Feels generally very close...
[Dazed5] No, you're getting colder.
Would it be The Birmingham Six, by any chance?
Like moths to the flame....
Duuuuh!
Retraction, given the answer to Dazed5's question some while ago.
Are any of them still alive?
Is it a collective name for a group of towns associated with pottery ?
Is it anything to do with the armed forces?
Staffordshire?
[Kim] You shouldn't retract, because you're getting warmer.
[Raak] I should think so.
[Inkspot] No.
[Ibid] Not the armed forces.
[Lib] No.
Is this a group it is possible to join?
A particular part of the police?
[Raak] Not any more, I think.
[Inkspot] Yes! I think we're nearly there...
The West Midlands ... er .... sommat?
[Chalky] Half-way there. I'll accept one of two possible completions.
[Chalky: West Midlands] [Kim: Constabulary]?
The West Midlands Serious Crime Squad?
Kim was soooo close, but it was Raak wot won it.

*shakes Raak by the hand*

*counts fingers*
The next object is ABSTRACT.
Could it exist if there were no humans?
Is it a recent invention, or an age-old concept?
Is it a function of time?
[Riff] No.
[Tuj] Not recent.
[Kim] Yes.
Is it a measure of time?
[Kim] No.
Does it have to do with the process of ageing?
Is it anything to do with religion?
Is it scientific in nature?
[Kim] No. (BTW, I took "a function of time" to mean "having something to do with time".)
[Chalky] (ripple of laughter from the audience) To some people it is. (More laughter.) No, not really.
[Riff] No.
Last orders at the bar?
Yesterday?
Is it an action carried out by humans?
[Chalky] No.
[Software] No.
[Inkspot] People doing things is an essential part of it, but that's not actually the thing itself.
ISIHaC?
Does it take place in all cultures?
[Chalky] No.
[Inkspot] No.
Bar Mitzvah?
er ... back to the chuckle-inducing 'religious' question .... is it an addiction of some kind?
[Inkspot] No.
[Chalky] (more chuckles from the audience) No, not in itself.
Is it anything to do with sport?
[Inkspot] No.
So far, Software's question sniffed closest to the Snark's bum.
Is it an historic event?
[rab] No.
Memories?
[Software] The Snark is nowhere in sight.
Is it being early/late?
Is it the Karma Sutra?
[Chalky,penelope] The Snark is in the vicinity of the Antipodes.
Is it the Rugby World Cup tournament (or part therof) ?
sorry - two questions in close succession, but I can sense myself sniffing quite close to the Snark's Bottom now.
[penelope] The Snark is nowhere to be seen (or sniffed).
Is it connected with literature?
[Chalky] No.
Keeping a diary or appointments?
[Inkspot] No.
Everyone is barking up entirely the wrong ocean.
Might this be the study of some academic discipline?
[rab] No, wrong planet now.
Time. It has to do with time.
Christmas?
Going back to Cultures, anything to do with western work ethic?
Pushing the lilo out into the pool a bit further to see if it floats.
[rab] (applause from the audience) No.
[Inkspot] sssss...glug glug glug
Easter?
Actually, remove that, it's something to do with religion only for some people. So...
Is it some sort of festival?
[rab] Yes! (But not Easter.) The footprints of the Snark have been found.
Is it celebrated in the UK?
(And can I sneak in Bonfire Night to get the obvious festival out of the way)?
Is it the Summer Solstice?
[rab] Yes. At least, in a part of the UK. But not Bonfire Night.
[Kim] No.
Burns night?
Up Helly Aa?
[Lib] No.
[Inkspot] No.
The hunters are circling around the Snark's lair...
Is it celebrated in Scotland?
Glastonbury Festival?
Hogmany?
Jools Holland New Years Eve Hootenanny?
Pushing out a flotilla of rubber ducks!
Beltane?
[rab] The Snark's tail has been grasped.
[Inkspot] The Snark gulps them down and burps.
[Chalky,Penelope] The Snark flings two of its hunters into the top of a tree.
[Software] Wielding the Sword of Truth and the Shield of Fair Play, Software has captured the Snark! (Hogmanay, actually, rather than the festival of stocktaking at the piggery, but I'll give you that.)

Audience presents Software with the mounted head of a Snark.

The longboat is nearly ready for Hogmany or a some call it Up Helly Aa .
[Shetlander] Alas, the audience were insufficiently knowledgeable to give the necessary applause for the near miss.
A pre-emptitive guess. Is it man made?
*muttering from top of tree* ... pesky Snark ...
Is it alive?
Hey! There's a whole new game here. We ask a whole load of questions (say, 20) and then, only when 20 questions have been asked, the winner of the previous round thinks of something that fits some of the questions, but not all of them. On second thoughts.....where is Software, anyway?
A most unexpected surprise! * Takes Bow *. Now What?
Ah a little complex I think but Animal and Vegetable with Abstract connexions.
The Abominable Snowman?
Is it a place?
Is it customarily eaten?
Is it something someone would normaly wear?
Is it alive (in real or fictional terms)?
Hello everyone, welcome to the first batch of answers.
Chalks: No
Raak: No
Inky: No (although slight fidgeting in audience)
Lib: Yes (mostly)
Is the animal human?
Is the Vegetable part a vegetable product?
Raak - I nearly simulposted exactly the same question as you. I have adapted.
I will be away from a PC for the weekend, so no hair tearing, please. My last dip into MC will be about 1700 hours tonight.
Raak: Yes.
Chalks: No.
Is it anyone or a particular person?
Does the answer have to do with the forthcoming holiday season?
Is the vegetable part a fruit?
One more go:
Inky: No
Raak: Yes (slight ripple of clapping and murmering from audience)
Chalks: No, well not exactly, oh, all right, technically yes. (one lonely individual in audience claps a loud, embarassing single clap).
Anything to do with the story of the Nativity?
Is it a party game?
Is it the fat guy who dressses in red?
Sorry, his name escapes me right now. Father something?
Sneaking in a quick visit to MC
Chalks: No
Raak: No (Slight titter from audience)
Tuj: No. No transvestites, please.
Is the fruit mistletoe berries?
Does it involve alcohol?
Sneaking in to MC away from the entertaining.
Inkspot: Yes (Audience: ripple of applause)
Raak: Err.. yes and no (audience titters)
Kissing under the mistletoe? (or involving doing so?)
Quite abstract though in the main, I grant you...
Amazing! ZK has it.! (Audience, goes wild, stamping feet and cheering.)
Shock and surprise
Ooh! Goodness! *stands up and takes a brief bow, blushing furiously* I apologise for keeping you waiting so long, have been out doing the Christmas necessaries with the relatives. Okay, the next one is ABSTRACT.
Is it to do with Christmas?
Are you a bloke?
Is it an activity?
[Software]Yes (clapping from audience)
[Chalky] Not last time I checked. Why?
[Raak](audience mumbling) Settling eventually on no.
Is it a carol?
Is it connected with religion?
[ZK] Well - mainly because it makes a difference to the sort of questions I would ask :-)
[Breadmaster] No. [Chalky] Yes, technically. Generally, probably not. *wonders what kind of questions you'd be asking otherwise* :)
Is it a Christmas tale or story?
Is it connected with the giving of presents?
[Chalky] *Echoes ZK's thoughts* Explain! Explain!
[Inkspot]No.
[Kim]Hmmm...that depends...possibly. I'll say: for me, personally, no.
Is it festivities?
[Software] No. It generally involves them but is not festivities themselves. The usual questions seem to be missing from this round; they might help.
Is it fictional?
[Raak] No.
Is it an emotion?
[ZK, Kim] ahem ... like Ann Elk - I have a theory. However, it would be unfair to hijack this game in order to expound it. I'll mention it in Banter one day, I'm sure :-)
Is it an expression or saying?
Is is a measure of time?
[Chalks] I'll look forward to that. P.S. I think it's Anne, not Ann.
Seasons Greetings?
Is it Christmas?
Is it a 'sin'?
[Chalky] No.
[Inkspot] No.
[Kim] In a way.
[Software] No. [Raak] (excited murmurs from audience)OOOoooh....no.
[Chalky] It depends what you do with it :)
Is it the season of goodwill?
ZK] Not a bloke? That means we males are outnumbered.
[BtD] No.
Was everyone assuming up to this point that I was? Ah well.
It might help to follow Kim's lead. Or Raak's.
Boxing Day?
[Raak].........no.
Is it the Twelve Days of Christmas?
Is it a film?
[Kim] No. [Inkspot] Not to the best of my knowledge. I daresay it has featured in many.
Christmas Eve?
New Year?
is it an event like the Queens Christmas Address to the Commonwalth?
[Chalky, Inkspot] No.
[Kim] Yes!
*whooping, cheering, goes generally wild for Kim*
Gosh!
Thank you one and all and especially to ZK for a festive and entertaining go. Right: this one is.....*flattened trumped makes ham-fisted attempt at fanfare*....ABSTRACT!
New Years Day?
Can we discard the seasonal theme now?
Is it a fictional character?
Is it an action? (oblig.)
I had assumed that ZK was male, on the basis of my theory that the more strange the nickname, the more likely the person is to be male. But I really want to hear Chalky's theory now.
Is it a measure of time?
I want to hear Chalky's theory too! My name is filched from "Insurance - the White Man's Burden", if anyone ever wondered...
Is there only one?
isn't my nickname strange?
Is it alive?
Is it related to ISIHAC?
Sorry I'm late!
Sorry, everyone, but I had no chance to get to a computer today. Right, let's see..
[Raak] No.
[Software] Y..y..y..y..y...just about.
[Inkspot] No.
[Breadmaster] No.
[ZK] No. That's my favourite opener!
[snorgle] Strictly, yes. And Yes.
[Lib] No.
[Tuj] Not in any conventional sense.
Would all adults recognise this concept?
[snorgle] Yes, a bit. It's not a hard and fast rule. But your name is less silly than, say, "DrQu+xum", "I Say! Porter!" or indeed my own. What is the origin of "Snorgle"? Or do I not want to know?
[Breadmaster] Almost certainly not all adults. P.S. Wan't to know why I call myself Kim?
Is it connected with the arts?
OK, why do u call yourself kim?
Is it a scientific concept?
I too would be interested to hear the origins of 'snorgle'
Would all of us recognise this concept?
This is all getting very intriguing, isn't it?
Would all children recognise it?
Snorgling is a noise my dog makes - it sounds like a snore and a gargle - usually when he wants some food or attention. It's quiet but effective at getting your attention, although it can be quite annoying! (I also saw the name in a comic book letters page once, and fancied it...)
Is it connected with religion?
View Halloo!
[Chalky] No.
[Fridge] Sorry, you have to post a question or a guess as well.
[LotUS] No. I'd be interested to hear the origins of a lot of these names. Perhaps we could turn it into a game.
[Breadmaster] No.
[snorgle] No.
[Raak] Yes. *The Snark is sighted in the distance. Raak rallies the hounds with a clarion call on his bugle and sets off in hot pursuit.*
Is it connceted to Judaism?
Picky, picky
It is connected to Judaism.
Chanukkah ?
So why Kim? The origin or Lib is rather underwheling, but i still and quite fond of it!
Ok, that makes no sense. I meant to say.... The origin of Lib is rather underwhemling, but I'm still quite ford of it. (I've got a cold and my head isn't working!)
Innocence?
Passover?
Is it a particular event?
[Lib] No.
[snorgle] No.
[LotUS] No.
[Raak] Nnnnnnnn...no.
Is it a ceremony particular to this faith?
[Inkspot] No.
The Exodus?
Is it a place?
Is it unique to Judaisim?
[Raak] No.
[Inkspot] No.
[LotUS] I cannot answer that definitively, without researching other faiths, which I am not in a position to do. I *think* that it is uniquely associated with Judaism.
Is it a name for a collection of things?
Is it a Bat Mitzvah?
the girl's version..
Yom kipur?
Circumcision?
[Inkspot] No.
[snorgle] No.
[Software] No.
[Raak] No.
Is it conected to language or speech?
Is it an action?
A historical event?
[Inkspot] Yes. *One of the hounds has picked up the scent of The Snark. "If he turns down that way, shouts Inkspot, we can run him to ground!"*
[Raak] No.
[Tuj] In the sense that it was something that supposedly happened a long time ago and got written about, yes.
Was it written about in the Old Testament of the Bible?
Is there an interesting reason why you call yourself Kim? Also, if we had a game about the origins of all our screen names, how long would it last? *schizophrenic voice chips in* I suppose it would depend on what you made the rules...
the 10 commandments?
Snark at bay
[ZK] Yes!
Well, I had this idea that it could be played within the general boundaries of Animal-Vegetable-Mineral-Abstract. People ask yes/no questions and from the answers given slowly uncover the truth.
[snorgle] No.
Was it written in Genesis?
Ooh, good plan!
Was it written in Exodus?
Was it written in Leviticus?
Was it written in Numbers?
Is it something Man built or tried to build?
No idea what I'm babbling on about, but my name is not very well disguised, I keep posting the latest Celebrity MC tables on an of and on weekly ad hoc basis, so players would have to diliberatley not get it right;)
Was it written in Deuteronomy?
*leaves it for now*
The plagues of Egypt?
[ZK] No, no, no, no and no.
[Inkspot] No.
[Raak] No.
I'm tempted to post a clue, but Inkspot is perilously close to a breakthrough with his last two postings and ZK may get there by a process of elimination. I'll provide a clue, if asked.
If it's not in the Pentateuch, that cuts out most of the OT events I can think of...
The walls of Jericho falling down?
Is it in any of the prophets?
By which I mean, of course, Isaiah onwards, and including Lamentations and Jonah because they're nice and short.
The Snark is running out of breath
[Raak] No.
[Breadmaster] Yes.
Are they from the second section of the Tanakh (one of the books of Neviim)?
The 10 commandmants?
The
[Inkspot] No. Go back to your question before last.
[Software] No. I think we've already eliminated the Torah.
One more go, then I think we'll put up a clue.
The tower of babel(fish)?
Something made by the big man upstairs ?
Is it a prophecy?
Belshazzar's Feast?
Jonah preaching to Nineveh?
Crikey, I haven't guessed one yet, and if I don't get this one at least I will have to retire ashamed.
Clue time
[Software] No. Isn't that what Inkspot was *babbling* on about before?
[Inkspot] Yyyy...yes. In the sense that it is something that He caused to happen. Now, go back again to your question about language and your question about the Tanakh and put them together. If you don't get this one, I will be disappointed.
[Ibid] Not as such.
[Raak] Not as such.
[Breadmaster] No.
*But the Snark is utterly trapped between several of the hounds and cannot move one way or another. Surely one of them will now deliver the fatal blow...*
Is it the valley of dry bones?
I'm clutching at straws here, at least until I get home and can start listing every event from the start of Isaiah onwards...
[Breadmaster] No.
"Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin"?
Hagiographa?
Have I backed up too far and overshot the mark
Bang!!
[Raak] Yes! The exact words I was looking for were "Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin", although I would, at this point, have accepted "The Writing on the Wall". I was sure that Inkspot would succeed. It is from the Ketuvim, the third section of the Tanakh, it had everything to do with language, it was not a prophesy as such, although it did tell the king what would happen to his kingdom and it was not Balshazzars feast, as such, although it did occur at the same time. Many contestants came within a gnats, but Raak hits the spot once again. Congratulations, Raak! The chair is yours, but with an honourable mention to Inkspot for incisive questioning.
A fiery hand writes: ANIMAL and VEGETABLE.
Meat and two veg?
A sparse dinner, at Christmas.
Is the animal living?
[Zk] No to both.
Is the vegetable, a vegetable.
drat and double drat
Does it have anything to do with Christmas?
[Inkspot] Partly.
[Kim] No.
Is it a single thing?
Goddammit! That was going to be my next question. I had forgotten that the book of Daniel is traditionally considered one of the prophets, although today it is always classified as an apocalyptic work. Arrrgh!
Is it edible?
[Bm] Yes. Commiserations on the last one -- sounds like you knew too much!
[Lib] (amusement in the audience) Yes. Definitely.
Is it a combination of animal and vegetable ingredients known by a specific name (eg "Duck á L'orange")?
[Kim] Yes!
Is it a work of art?
Is it toad-in-the-hole?
Is is a dish usually associated with a particular country?
Is the 'animal' part poultry?
Is a sauce involved?
[Bm] No.
[ZK] No.
[Kim] Yes!
[Inkspot] No.
[rab] No.
Paella?
Is it a dish usually associated with France?
Is it a dish usually associated with Italy?
Is it a dish usually associated with China?
Is it a dish usually associated with the USA?
Is it a dish usually associated with Britain?
I'm liking this new annoying habit of mine :)
*Farkle*
Biding my time and letting ZK do all the hard work.....
:)
[Inkspot] No.
[ZK] No, no, no, no, and er um sort of but no not actually.
[Kim] *fring*
Is is a dish associated with one particular country in Great Britain?
[Kim] Yes.
Is it Scotland?
Haggis, Neeps and Tatties?
(seeing as Kim simul'ed the same question as I)
Is it Haggis?
[rab] Thief! That was to be my next question!
Actually I just dismissed 'haggis' on account of not being veggy, but then I remembered the oats. And here we learn the importance, finally, of checking our oats.
[Kim] Yes.
[rab] You have, alas, overshot the mark.
[Kim] It is indeed HAGGIS.
The audience carries the triumphant Kim on their shoulders round the room, to the accompaniment of massed pipers.
Impressively swift, but is that really a single thing?
[Bm] Well, pick up a haggis. Do you have a single thing in your hand? Or is it two things, the skin and the contents? Or is it a trinity of skin, animal edibles, and vegetable edibles? If three, is it simultaneously one? Does the process of combining the ingredients to make a haggis subsume their three natures into a single nature, or do they retain three separate natures which in the cooking process become like, but still separate? Will you be hunted through every glen in Scotland for confusing homoousion with homoiousion?
A wacky idea....
How about the next one...whose turn is it?
As the last winner, Kim has first refusal on the chair.
[Raak] Ha! Very good. You and your sneaky iota. When I said "single thing" I meant a particular, unique individual, but I should probably have phrased it better. I shall retire to a monastery in the Thebaid and secretly write self-vindicating books to be discovered 1500 years in the future.
Errr....right....
OK. This next one is.....MINERAL and VEGETABLE
Whisky?
Is it liquid?
Is it something manufactured from mineral and vegetable materials?
*doi* actually that kind of goes without saying, but you know what I mean... as opposed to "a rock and a couple of carrots" :)
Is it edible?
Is is something that is normally worn?
Petrified wood?
And....they're off!!
[raak] No.
[ZK] No.
[ZK] Yes.
[ZK] Err...yes. It could have been a snowman (which would fit the "carrot and a couple of rock" idea (but isn't).
[Breadmaster] No.
[Inkspot] No.
[Toby] No.
[All] P.S. I will have limited playing time today. My wife is on call (she's a midwife) and so I shall have to keep our telephone line free (we only have one, which does double duty as land line and internet line) from 9 O'clock this evening. I'll try to get back to this game at least once between then and now.
Is the vegetable part wood?
Is the mineral a metal?
Is it normally found in the home?
Triple whammy!
[Raak] Yes!
[Inkspot] Yes!
[plump] Yes!
Is it a particular piece of furniture?
A door?
[Inkspot] Not furniture in the conventional sense.
[Raak] No.
A house built of wood, with metal fixings?
Is it made for a particular use?
[Raak] No.
[Inkspot] Yes.
Is it possible to pick it up with one hand?
A door knob?
[Raak] No.
[plump] No.
A window?
Does the wood form more of the structure than the metal?
Is it most likely to be used in one particular room more than any other?
Is it a fixture?
Is it just as likely to be found NOT in the home?
[Toby] ooh, i like that....
[Good news] No.
[Good news] Hmmm....difficult. Let me say that the thing could not exist without both, but the wood holds the whole thing together.
[Inkspot] Yyyyyyyes.....most likely to be used in certain rooms rather than others...
[Raak] No.
[Toby] Yes!
[ZK] I see you've been lurking....(!)
Is it a container of any sort?
Is it made to be sat on?
Is it a desk? (of office style)
[Raak] No.
[Inkspot] *Clue* Not on.
[Lib] No.
I have been looking at plump's first question, which, I think, is capable of more than one interpretation. Comments, supplementary questions invited.
Is it a support for something?
Is it powered by electricity?
A coffin?
A child's swing?
An Analytical Engine executed in Victorian walnut and brass?
Is it meant to be sat under?
[ZK] Ta.
Prepositions, prepositions.....
[Raak] No.
[Inkspot] *Clue* Mine isn't, but there are some varieties you can get that are.
[Software] No.
[Dazed5] No.
[Raak] Nice, but no. (*Thinks*) "Hmmmm, walnut and brass......"
[Toby] No. Try again.
Fine. Sat between beyond above for to - oh, there's one. Sat in?
Is every home likely to have one?
Sat at - is it a piano?
A early Victorian jacuzzi, with hand bellows attachments?
I only use it to tinkle on.....
[Toby] Oh, bad luck. None of the above. And not every home is likely to have one, although I think that every home should.
[ZK] Bingo! *sings*"Sitting at my pi-a-no the other day...".
[Inkspot] I would love to visit your home one day....
Congratulations, and the antique birthing stool with bronze attachments goes to Zoological Keeper with compliments. Lurking clearly works.....
*lurk lurk lurk*
Hurrah! [Kim] Gratefully received and sitting next to my medieval teak espressomatic. Right, I shall endeavour to offer another one for all to get their metaphorical teeth into. And it shall be ABSTRACT. How do you get colour tags?
[ZK] <font color=red>Like this</font> for standard colours, <font color="#80FF28">or like this</font> to roll your own.
Can it be seen?
Is it a fictional character?
Messing around with colours!
Is it an activity?
Colour me baaaaaaaaaad!
A good start to the day
Righto.
[Inkspot] mmmmmmmmm...for now, I'll go with no.
[snorgle] Not mainly but has featured as such in at least one book I know of.
[Kim] No.
Is it anything to do with time?
[Raak] *ripples of applause in the back row of the audience] Yes.
Is it a date or event on the calender?
Is it the shortness in duration of an eclair?
[Inkspot] Yes and no.
[Raak :)] Same answer.
The winter solstice?
Tea-time?
Does it occur once every four years and will it, in fact, occur next year?
Is it a unit of measurement?
[Inkspot, Raak] It includes both.
[Kim]Um, no.
[Breadmaster]No.
Is it the title of a book?
Is it connected with religion?
Does it have a duration?
much checking needed
*trolling back from amazon* [Inkspot] I've found it included in a few, but it is not the title of a book in itself. [Inkspot once more] Not to the best of my knowledge. [Raak] Possibly.
Does it occur on a regular schedule?
Is it one of the seasons?
Is it an anthropomorphisation?
Like Jack Frost.
*waiting for Breadmaster to pounce*
[Raak] Er, not as such....no.
[Dazed5] Technically, no.
[Breadmaster] Umm, I think so.
But it's not Jack Frost. :)
crimbo
I can't promise to be back before the end of today; I need to clean my room, wrap presents, help around the house and attend midnight mass and this may involve arranging with my friend for her to come stay with us for crimble so Merry Christmas all if I don't see you again soon, and I hope some brilliant period of enlightenment visits you and tells you the answer - I suspect Breadmaster's onto a winner anyway, if someone else doesn't filch it first. christmas blessings all! xx
*breathes*
(going for the obvious:) Santa Claus?
popping back long enough to be a spoilsport
[Raak] Sorry, but no.
The Wings of Time?
Or should that be 'the Sands'?
and again
[Toby] Exceedingly sorry, but no.
Chronos- a personification of time?
Merry Christmass all!!
[snorgle] Oh, so excruciatingly sorry!!! But, specifically, no. If no-one else gets it before the 27th I may have to concede.
Old Father Time?
And with the dawn of Boxing Day, we usher in a new age of guessing as Kim rides home with the victory and an extra glass of egg-nog. It was indeed Father Time. :)
I would have got away with it if it weren't for these pesky kids!
Oh damn yer eyes, why do I always unwittingly nearly get it and then not return to the computer for 48 hours? Curses!!
Ho Ho Ho!
They say revenge is a dish best served cold. This much it does not have in common with turkey.
OK, folks, this one's ABSTRACT
Is it FICTIONAL?
You'll be eating increasingly tough revenge sandwiches for months, if I have my way!
[Breadmaster] In the broadest sense, yes. (...and of course there's always a nice warming cup of revenge soup on day three.)
Would it be comprehensible to the average 10-year-old?
I'll get this. By hook or by crook.
Is it related to the present festive seeason?
Is it a philosophical conceit?
Kim - are you planning to appear soon?
Sorry I'm late!
[Breadmaster] I would say the average 10 year-old would not know about this.
[Raak] In the broadest sense, yes.
[Toby] Please clarify, or give an example.
[Chalky] Yes. Sorry, I was out of commission yesterday.
Is it closely related to ISIHAC, in anything less than the broadest sense?
Ah. A meta-abstraction, really, such as: "Das Ding an sich", existential Angst, Jeffersonian democracy...
Is it, in your opinion, a positive thing?
[Toby] Das Ding an sich was of course Kant's attempt to write a Christmas carol - not sure why it never caught on.
[Raak] No.
[Toby] Ahhh, I see. No.
[Breadmaster] In my opinion it can only either be both positive and negative, or neither.
Is it Occam's Razor?
Which is of course related to the current festive season in that the introduction of the assumption of the existence of Father Christmas is a necessary premise; and is also of course pure fiction.
[Breadmaster] I thought it did - Ding, an sich, Dingalingaling - which was subsequently corrupted by the uncomprehending rabble.
[Toby] No.
[All] *Clue* It may help to think along the lines of Raak's first question, omitting the word "festive".
The 28th of December?
Is it a calender event ? eg winter solstice?
Toby] I liked Chuck Berry's version!
Is it weather-related?
[Inkspot] I think you're the only person who did!
A white 28th of December?
[Inkspot] *Sporadic applause from the audience.* Strong calendar association, but not a solstice, nor an equinox.
[Breadmaster] No.
[Raak] No.
Is it a Bank Holiday?
The Eve of the New Year?
Your birthday?
Back to work!
[Chalky] No.
[Toby] *More applause*. No. It is not a calendar event as such, but something that has an association with that particular calendar event.
[Inkspot] No, but thank you for thinking of me.
A resolution?
[Breadmaster] No.
A Burns Supper?
[Raak] No.
Sylvester? Hogmanay? A kiss at midnight?
Or would that last one be 'animal'?
[Toby] None of the above.
[All] I'm getting concerned that if we get too far into this month, my choice will cease to be aposite. There is one very popular question arising out of "abstract" that has not yet been asked.
Is it an action?
And if so, is it first-footing?
[Breadmaster] No, not an action.
Is it a human concept?
Is it getting to second base on first date?
Obviously very important during the winter and broadly fictional though more mythical to some.
First footing?
Hogwatch?
Is it an anthropomorphisation?
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