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Animal-Vegetable-Mineral-Abstract: The Pants Memorial Game
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The chairperson selects an object/idea/whatever and announces whether it's animal, vegetable, mineral, and/or abstract. The others have to ask questions to figure out what it is. Whomever guesses the object correctly is given the chair for the next round; repeat ad nauseam.
[Topics, questions, and answers go here in "apropos"]
[Commentary goes here in "stance".]
So who was chair when PantsMC mysteriously vanished, and would they like to take it here first?
over to you, Dr Q
I vote for you starting one. At least you have a regular 'presence' here. I wasn't playing the last game in Pants, but IIRC, it was Bigsmith's 'mineral' and there may have been long waits between replies. Rosie and Dujon will know..
You might as well accept, Dr.Q, and launch the boat. Here you are - have a bottle of champagne. Exits left singing 'I'm for ever blowing bubbles'.
From memory, which is dodgy at the best of times, you are correct. Bigsmith went on a short sabbatical before finally re-appearing to get the thing underway again. I seem to recall long gaps between Qs and As, however it had really only just started. So, thanks to Dr.Q or rab or whomever for setting up this mc5 version.
Legs = 4?
Sorry, Doc, I couldn't resist. ;-)
CRAFT moments
(Chalky) Dujon and I are so old we can't remember what was going on in Pants AVM. (CRAFT = Can't remember a f ****** thing)
[Whatsisname]
Hrmph!
Starting -- MINERAL
So, Duj...no. :)
Manufactured?
The usual mineral opening gambit.
Format
I wonder if it would help in this game if we put in a
Dujon - No.
[Duj] I suggested a format above -- topics, questions, and answers in the "Apropos" section, everything else in "Stance".
Oh, you meant the line break. I figure an <hr> after each game.
Is the mineral in scarce/rare?
DrQ]I was am a player that sadly never made it over to Pants and so was never introduced into this intriguing game. Are there any guidelines on how many questions you can ask at once or is it one question per move or three successive moves of one question each.
Mined?
I'm also new to the game, so some "words of one syllable" would be greatly appreciated.
(Inkspot, Kim) At Pants the seemingly accepted rules were: One question at a time: The answer has to be yes or no, but helpful hints were allowed: No limit to the length of the game; it goes on until someone gets the answer. Don't forget the original '50s rules in that Animal covers everything from a Siberian tiger to a pound of sausages or a leather jacket, though the last has some Mineral in it. Similarly Veg & Min.
Inkspot - in particular, yes. Kim - no.
 
Is it an item of jewellery?
 
Solid (at normal pressure/temperature)?
BTW - I hope it's OK to have more than one question 'open' at a time. Otherwise, this one might just take a lifetime ...
Is it extra terrestrial?
What I mean is the astral stuff that falls out of the sky like meteors or moon rock, Is there a proper word for that type of geology?
Would I like to own lots of it?
Hello, wondering in on preceedings if that's ok with you all. But wandering off again to go to my nice new posh (and rather expensive!) gym.
Raak - no. Wol - yes. Inkspot - no. Lib - Probably not.
 
[Wol] Oh yes, 3-4 questions posed before a response is common. [Inkspot] Extra-terrestrial is an OK word for that, although the common public interpretation usually involves life forms.
Is it metallic?
And wondering if that question would also include metalloids...
LotUS - chemically, yes.
 
Would it be present in an average household?
[Inkspot] Being pernickety now, but meteors don't fall out of the sky, they get burned up in it. If it lands on Earth it's a meterorite. /pedantic
Is it used domestically?
Hi Dr, Hi all! We seem to have relocated since the mysterious demise of the Pants site. Wonder what went wrong? Will we ever find out? Speculation on how it came about could be a new game....
BM - No. Softers - No.
 
Does it have an everyday use to human beings?
Thinks: coo, this looks fun.
Tuj - No.
 
Is the answer the substance itself?
(Breadmaster) As the (late) semi-official Pants Pedant I see I have a serious competitor. You are dead right, of course.
Rosie - No.
 
Is it an alloy?
if its not mined I presume it is a combination of minerals.
A summary -
It is a mineral
Does not have four legs (!)
Not manufactured
It is rare
Not mined
Not an item of jewellery
Is solid at normal temp./pressure
not extra-terrestrial
Lib would probably not like to own lots of it
It is chemically metallic
Not used domestically
Does not have an everyday use by human beings
The answer is not the substance itself
Hmm...
Is it fictional or mythical?
Good one Dr Q!
Was it known before the eighteenth century?
[Rosie] Pedantic?... I?
Inkspot - Not as such. Bob - No. Breadmaster - I believe so.
 
[Bob] I do often bring up long-lasting games -- it took about two weeks for the Pants crowd to guess LBW. :)
Is it an ore - or oxidised?
A naturally occurring solid object made of metal or metals...hmm
Is it a geographical feature?
LBW? Was that animal, vegetable, or mineral...?
Is it a supercondutor?
man-made but not manufactuered! perhaps.
Bob - I don't think so. Breadmaster -YES. Inkspot - no.
Breadmaster makes the first breakthrough!
[BM] LBW is abstract.
Is there more than one?
DrQ]was that yes to both known before the 18C and being a geographical feature?
DrQ]forget may last stance. I'll be back after I've had a cup of tea and a lie down.
Inkspot - No (only one).
 
Is it in the Northern Hemisphere?
Breadmaster] You are too good at this...
Bob - Yes.
 
Is it in the U.K.?
So it's a solid, metallic geographical feature in the Northern Hemisphere, that didn't fall out of the sky, is not man-made, and has no everyday use.
Is it a hill or mountain?
Now we've got him on the run! Mush, halloo, and away!
Magnet Hill?
I beleive that there are several of these, actually
bugger
ignore that last one - missed the "man made" clue
eh?
I'm off to lie down.
Is it the earth's core?
I do not usually enjoy ironing.
Is it in a national park?
Big Dave] have a cup of tea I'll put the kettles on .
Rock of Gibraltar?
Wworth a punt.
Raak - No. Breadmaster - Sorta. Software - No. Bob - No. Inkspot - Don't know, I'll check. Chalky - No.
I should say --- don't focus much on the metallic.
CORRECTION: Raak - Yes.
Ooh, partial giveaway.
Is it an island?
Intrigued by it's being "sorta" a hill or mountain...
BM - No.
I'll say it's a hill, let's put it that way.
Is it actually on land (ie, or in the sea)?
*light bulb* has idea!
Angus - Yes.
 
Does it have some sort of spiritual or mystical significance? (e.g. a burial mound, etc.)
Is it the Sutton Hoo burial mound?
I should wait for Darren's question to be answered, but as I'm here... BTW, are we keeping score by the number of questins it takes?
Is it in the Emerald Isle?
Trying to clear up location after your first rejection of Raak asking about 'in the UK'
Is it Stonehenge?
I am starting to think this is much better as a spectator sport....
Darren - no. Raak - no. Inkspot - YES... Kim - no.
I think Inkspot's got it.
Is it the Giant's Causeway?
DARREN IS CORRECT!
Sorry Inkspot....Darren gets the chair.
Thanks DrQ. OK, this new thing is ABSTRACT.
...and, unlike on Pants, I shall be continuing with this until someone gets it. ;)
Is this a construct of the mind rather than a physical action/reaction?
Meaning; is it more like time/space/imagination rather than itch/sigh/dodge? If that's too broad, just say so, Darren.
Is it real or fictional?
Not sure how to play abstract yet...
Dujon - it's more a physical action, but arguably it's a construct of the mind too. Bob - it's real.
Is it a crime?
Goddamit, well done Darren!
Is it an everyday occurence?
BtD] With a straight bat, I guess...
A phenomenon?
Have just realised that one can't 'submit' without having a 'stance'. Ah well, who needs an excuse to twitter inconsequentially - not I!
Is it done solely by humans?
[Chalky] You can put &nbsp; in "stance" to make it blank.
Breadmaster - no. Tuj - not usually. Chalky - no. DrQ - yes.
Or you can do what I do - type <b> </b> when you don't want to say anything. Chalky - almost anything could be called a phenomenon of some sort, of course, but in this case, you wouldn't really call it one.
Does it have anything to do with Mornington Crescent?
Are most humans likely to have done this?
Is it legal in the UK?
Proud as a goat.
Raak - yes and no. Breadmaster - yes. snorgle - yes.
For Raak's question, I can't really be more precise without either being misleading or giving too much away.
I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue.
 
Is it broadcast?
Jolly as a kipper
Is it inappropriate to do this in public, or with others present?
Glum as a bison.
Think of a MC move?
Hi Rosie!
Does it have anything to do with pilgrimages?
Apathetic as a flamingo
Is it a form of travelling?
Gyrating as a tuatara
DrQ - no. Chalky - it has been, but it's not usually. Rosie - no. snorgle - no. LotUS - no. Breadmaster - in a way.
Waiting for a train?
Would most children be able to do it?
To recap:
It's a physical action.
It's real.
It's legal.
It is not normally done every day.
Not a phenomenon.
Done solely by humans.
It has an unclear relationship with Mornington Crescent.
Most people have done it.
It is not I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue.
It has sometimes been broadcast but isn't usually.
It can be done in public.
It is not a MC move.
Nothing to do with pilgrimages.
It is a sort of travelling.
Is it humourous?
...in your opinion, I suppose
Raak - no. Breadmaster - yes. Tuj - often is.
Breadmaster's looking in vaguely the right direction here.
Playing conkers?
Although they all fell early, I almost got hit on the head by one a fortnight ago, as I looked up, wondering what the rustling noise was..
Is it a game?
Smug as a lobster.
Orienteeering?
(e)
Going on a pub crawl?
Dancing of some kind?
(Chalky) Ahhhh! Lobsters! Beware, Thrax and I are at large.
Is it done in the home?
Could someone clarify as to what a construction of the mind is following Darren earlier answer "it's a construct of the mind too".
snorgle - no. Chalky - YES. Raak - (1)no,(2)no. Rosie - to a point. Inkspot - sometimes.
[Inkspot] I just took it to mean something which has been constructed or formulated by the human mind.
...and naturally, all games fall into that category.
Monopoly?
Brain hurts...
Is it a type of race (in the sporting sense)?
Is it "Twister"?
Charades?
Is it "Scrabble"?
<thinks> If not this then... </thinks>
Pop Idol?
A stab in the dark...
Musical chairs?
Or sunnink.
"Give Us A Clue?"
Not . . . you have to give us a clue, Darren, but the Lionel/Una show.
Is it a team game?
And to think Wales is seeded above England in the Rugby World Cup!! mmmm sounds right to me
Rosie - CORRECT.
Rosie got it! I thought it would take you longer! So anyway, Rosie is now in the chair for the next game.
Applause
Well done Rosie!
I have one in mind... Start asking....
It's Animal, Vegetable, Mineral, any combination thereof, or Abstract by itself. The answer is two words - the indefinite article and a noun.
Oops... sorry, Rosie, I hadn't realised the winner gets to go. I withdraw.
Awww! gil! You had a special one all thought up!
Mornington Chairs
[Darren] What's the unclear relationship between musical chairs and Mornington Crescent?
Musical Mornington
Raak] Perhaps Darren is unaware of the last time Musical Mornington Chairs was played, back in the late 1970's, when it was played by some very enthusiatic Chelsea football supporters on there way back from another local London village derby.
Unfortunately the most important part of the ie getting rid of a seat at each station was miss interpereted by the London Transport Police as wanton vandalism.
As a result, this unfortunate event is usually glossed over and not normally discussed in polite company.
[Raak] I thought they did play musical chairs on ISIHAC once, or did I imagine that?
This next object is ABSTRACT with Animal connections
(Inkspot) Supported the Blues since 1956. Don't go these days - prices are absurd and you can't even stand up.
Is it a mythical being?
Eager as a salamander.
Is it an action?
[Darren] I thought you were obliquely referring to/associating it with Humph as a 'musical chair[man]' of MC.
The Cheshire Cat?
Is it a symbol or emblem, e.g. the Austrian two-headed eagle?
Is it the Welsh Dragon?
Standing.
Chalky - No. LotUs - No. Software - Nice guess, but no. Raak - No.
Concentrate on the Abstract. The Animal connection is just a help. BTW this is very early for me; it's 11.30 am. Back in a couple of hours. :-)
An event?
 
Is it solid?
one o' clock time for lunch
Is it a genus, species, or other taxonomic division?
Gil and Raak: Both No. Inkspot: Can't be - it's abstract!
(Snorgle) Apologies. I missed your contribution. Can't think why but there you go. But the answer is no. :-)
Can it be heard?
you'll be telling me next that Welsh Dragons don't exist.
Is it something you can do?
Is it musical?
Rosie]the previous 'abstract' musical chairs has requires several solid objects and corporeal bodies, I was attempting to discern whether your object has a physical presence, in the same way as a smile:)
Is it an EMOTION?
A mares nest?
Are we looking for some kind of mental picture?
Inkspot - No. Darren - No. Bigsmith - No. Chalky - NO!. Software - No.
(Inkspot)It requires the presence of an "animal", i.e. the broad definition, for this abstraction to be manifested.
Sounds like a Pigs Ear to me...
Software - Another good'un, squire, but like Thames Trains, you're on the wrong track.
Allergies.
Although it has vegetable connections as well....
Is it some sort of mythical beast?
... as a ...
Is it a human condition?
Is it ENTERTAINING?
Dr Q - No. Tuj - No. Kim - Yes, sort of. Chalky - No. Mildly interesting to the observant, perhaps.
Would this normally be considered to be 'indelicate' in polite company?
Bringing down the level of decorum.
Is it (a) thought?
Not sure if this doesn't actually qualify under one of Darren's earlier questions.
RECAP:
It is NOT a mythical being
It is NOT an action
It is NOT the Cheshire Cat
It is NOT a symbol or emblem
It is NOT a Welsh dragon
It is NOT an event
It is NOT solid
It CANNOT be heard
It is NOT musical
It is NOT something you can do
It is NOT an emotion
It is NOT a mare's nest
It is NOT a pig's ear
It is NOT an allergy
It is NOT a mythical beast
It is NOT REALLY entertaining

It IS ... sort of ... a human condition

Is it something than can affect EVERYONE?
Trying to narrow down the options
Poor? Rich? Hungry? Thirsty?
 
Is it something most of us have encountered/experienced/had?
This is a tricky one.
Sorry Chalky - overlapped with your question there, somehow didn't spot it.
Dujon - No. Lotus - No. Chalky - No. gil - No. Breadmaster - Yes/No/No.
Anthromorphism?
Wild guessing.
Is the animal aspect merely corroborative?
Boolbar - No. Kim - No, it's fundamental
This is a property/feature/characteristic of some humans. Logically it should also apply to some animals but I'm not sure how well documented this is.
Would it have a negative impact on those who've ENCOUNTERED it?
[BM] No worries. At least you got a positive reply.
A dark horse?
Assuming not the one I backed in the 2:00 at Lingfield
Is it some kind of mental phenomenon?
[Chalky] Not necessarily a helpful one though...
Is it done with other?
Up a gum tree without a clue at the moment
Is it left-handedness / the brain control feature of single hand/paw dominance?
Don't know if this reads too much into Rosie's statement
LOTUS HAS IT! LEFT-HANDEDNESS.
I'm left-handed myself. Very sinister. Carry on LotUs. BTW Are you still in Aberdeen Road?
Well thought out, LotUS :-)
Wow!
Again, Wow!
The next is ABSTRACT with mineral connections
Re clue: It could probably be the other way round as well but we'll argue about that after somebody has got it. (I suspect it will be obtained quickly).

[Chalky] *slightly abashed* thank you very much. Although Rosie's last clue was the key pointer I'm afraid.
[BM] I agree it was an extremely good one.
[Rosie] Yes, I still dwell nary 10-15 mins down the road from you (if memory serves correctly). I'm working in Purley now having left the hallowed halls in the Fens.

Rain?
Trying to score from my own penalty area, so to speak. (LotUs) Hamsey Green, Warlingham end.
Is it Kryptonite?
Is it the Philosopher's Stone?
Bravo BtD
Heaven?
Hell?
If this doesn't work, presumably some more general questions would be an idea ;)
Rosie - No; Bob - No; Tuj - No; Chalky - No; Darren - No
Darren] I think that would be a very good idea, although Rosie's is the only guess that is even in the same country as this <whatever>. And possibly yours. *smiles cryptically*
Is it fictional?
Bob - No...
...but it depends on what you mean by fictional. Not in the conventional sense of 'fictional' anyway.
Scotch mist?
Is it PLEASANT as in ENJOYABLE?
Is it hypothetical?
Software - No; Chalky - Not really; Raak - No
Chalky - the question doesn't really apply but you wouldn't be enjoying the results of this (or you might, I don't know ;) )
Noah's Flood?
Raak - No
The Midas Touch?
snorgle - No
You can tell I've got no work to do at the moment.
Is it a single individual (like the Philosopher's Stone, assuming there was just one) or a general thing (like rain)?
Breadmaster - that's not really a yes or no question but it is a single, specific thing/concept/idea/abstraction
Is it anything to do with the four ELEMENTS?
Does it involve movement?
Chalky - Yes; Raak - Yes (in a technical sense)
Is the Abstact whatsit dependant on the mineral connection?
The OZONE LAYER?
Could it be described as a phenomenon?
Inkspot - Yes; Chalky - No; Rosie - No (but then it depends on your definition - you may be more easily astounded ;) )
A Weather Forecast?
The Northern Lights?
Of the four elements is water the mineral connction?
Quickly going down a blind alley, anyone for checking the other Elements? or is that just a distraction?
Anything to do with fire?
Chalky - No; Software - No; Inkspot - Yes; Breadmaster - No
Crying?
Precipitation?
 
Is it clouds?
Chalky - No; gil - No; Inkspot - No
The story so far...
It is ABSTRACT with mineral connections ("It could probably be the other way round as well but we'll argue about that after somebody has got it")
It is not Rain, Kryptonite, the Philosopher’s Stone, Heaven or Hell, Scotch Mist, Noah's Flood, the Midas Touch, the Ozone Layer, a Weather Forecast or the Northern Lights
Not fictional, but it depends on what you mean by fictional. Not in the conventional sense of 'fictional'
It is not really pleasant or enjoyable (“you wouldn't be enjoying the results of this”)
It is not hypothetical
It is a single, specific thing/concept/idea/abstraction
Is has something to do with the four ELEMENTS
In a technical sense it involves movement
The Abstract whatsit is dependant on the mineral connection
It Could not generally it be described as a phenomenon unless you are easily astounded
Of the four elements water is the mineral connection
It is not to do with fire, crying, precipitation or clouds.
A Baptism?
Is it some sort of current like the transatlantic drift?
Assuming this 'abstract' is tangible.
Chalky - No
And here's your one for free: it's not tangible
oh and Bob - No
Drought?
Does it exist *solely* on Earth?
 
Chalky - No; DrQ - No
Anything to do with ice?
 
DrQ - yes and no (depends on how technical you want to get but you're in roughly the right ballpark)
Post-nasal drip?
I only just stopped myself putting Giant alien snowball up there.. :)
The North Pole?
Be it geographic or geomagnetic.
Is it a geographical feature? (well, it worked once...)
I'm puzzled how it can be a single individual thing but not be exclusive to a single planet...
Is this a physical law?
Giant alien snowball?
snorgle] One man's trash is another man's treasure, and all that...
Damn you LotUS, stop working and get back here!
If you get it, I'll scream.. :)
The Ice Age?
A comet?
Fog/mist?
(LotUs) What I meant by a phenomenon earlier didn't mean "phenomenal", i.e. incredible, outrageous etc, but just something that is observed or happens, eg any aspect of weather.
An isobar
snorgle- No; DrQ - No; Breadmaster - No; Darren - Sort of (I wouldn't say 'law' as such); Tuj - Nope; Chalky - No; Bob - No; Rosie - No, Dujon - No
[Rosie] Ah sorry, I misunderstood. Okay, well the result is observable/happens.
Darren is now the closest by far. Geez - Im glad I went for this one and not the one I thought was really fiendish.
Gravity?
I'm a very serious type, doncha know?
Does it occur on the moon as well as the planet?
Dujon - No; Inkspot - I'm sure it would hold on the moon although probably slightly altered from how we know it
Actually, Inkspot - Yes and...
the addition is :...what it is would be the same on the moon but how we know it would be altered (although I can't tell you how) - if that makes any sense.
Is it metaphorical?
My brain hurts...
The freezing point of water?
Bob - Nope; Raak - No
[Raak] ooohh!!
Dew point
Wild stab.
plump - Nope
The boiling point of water?
Golden Shower?
Coat!
Boolbar!!
Boolbar - The attendent will show you the way; Chalky - YES!!!!!!
DING DING DING!!!! Congratulations Miss Chalky!!! You have correctly guessed the boiling point of water. The floor is now yours m'lady.
(Raak)Oh so close!
It was going to be the sublimation point of iodine but then I realised that would probably have got me expelled from these boards ;)
O wow!
I'll admit that although I climbed on the shoulders of the estimable Raak for the final thrust - I did work hard on that one [witness - nauseating number of questions] so I don't feel too abashed.
Give us a mo ...
'the sublimation point of iodine'
LotUS] be glad you did not opt for Boolbars suggestion.
OK - New One - *A N I M A L*
Bring on the questions . . .
Is it a living creature?
we'll start nice and simple
Is the whole thing an animal?
though I do fancy a leg of lamb this Sunday.
Is ia an Aardvaark?
I've got this Wildlife dictionary on my lap, you see.....
Human?
(LotUs) Iodine doesn't have a sublimation point (at atmospheric pressure). Melts at 114°C and boils at 184°C. And I hope you've specified a pressure for the boiling point of water. At the top of Everest water boils at 70°C at which temperature it takes several days (by extrapolation) to boil an egg and tea is crap. Sorry to be such an arse-aching pedant but I've got a reputation to keep up. -:)
An air breather?
(Rosie) yes, I am aware of Boyle's Law, STP and such stuff (I did study Chemistry at uni), that's why I gave the clue as abstract because the answer was more 'the concept of the boiling point of water' rather than an actual figure (which would be an accepted standard against an arbitrary scale). Which is also part of why expected wrangling to take place.
LotUS - NO. Inkspot - whole thing YES - but an animal [as opposed to a human] NO. Kim - NO! Rosie - YES. Bob - Not any more, obviously.
Wrangling is good.
John Wayne?
are they recently deceased (last 20 years)?
Is it Otzi the Bog Man?
A mummy?
addendum
That is, not one's mother, you uderstand.
Is it fictitious?
BobtheDog - No. LotUS - No. Raak - if I didn't know better I would say you're being a silly-billy :-) Software - No and No. Darren - No.
sorrysorrysorry Raak - please forgive me for poaching your water.
Darren - if it WERE fictitious, wouldn't that make it abstract?
Was this human British?
 
Female?
DrQ - No. BobtheDog - No.
American?
probably my last q 'til tomorrow - d'oh
LotUS - erm ... broadly speaking YES.
Montezuma?
Singular as opposed to a grouping?
Chief Sitting Bull?
Born on the continent now known as North America?
Raak - No. Inkspot - YES. LotUS - No. Ibid - YES.
An American President?
Bob - No
Canadian?
 
An entertainer?
Lived during the 20th century?
Was it a native American?
Oh, by the way, I wouldn't call a fictitious person or animal necessarily abstract.
Albert Johnson, the Mad Trapper of Rat River?
Malcom X?
Thinking that he may be born in America but perhaps considers themselves to be maybe Hispanic or Jewish or black / American
DrQ - by parentage YES. Bob - not really known as such, but IMHO he WAS entertaining as a person. Tuj - YES. Darren - see DrQ. Raak - I'm SO sorry - how can I make it up to you . .
Now - I've had 4 [and a sneaky half] very very very large glasses of vinoplonko since I was here before - I've jus got home - DO tell me if I'm performing inappropriately - coz i's a sherious business this chairing a game thingystuff . . . and I would HATE to let you all down - *sobs* Oh god! You are ALL my beshtest friends and . . .
Inkspot - No [which you can now see because I shimulposted . .]
a politician?
Your performance is just fine.. ;)
snorgle - No.
Thank you dearest schnorgy worgy
Were they intentionally entertaining?
you're welcome.. ;)
snorgs - he was *intentionally* something else which is yet to be guessed - but as I said before - IMO he WAS entertaining, but perhaps not to all
Were other people involved in doing this IYHO entertaining thing?
hmmm
snorgle - I dare say
ahem
William Shatner?
This is moving faster than usual..
snorgs - he isn't dead, is he?
Certainly is.
Was it sexual?
It would explain his acting skills. I just had to read all that to work out that he is dead. So, a dead 20th century man of canadian extraction (ouch!) who did something that might be considered entertaining.
Involved in sport?
[snorgle] Where'd that last question come from?
Maybe I should go to bed. I meant was what he did sexual (as it amused Chalky).
[snorgle] Unless he was a eunuch, I'd say so. :)
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Tired, so no longer making sense.. g'night! (Just as well I previewed that, it was toooo long!)
A musician, of any kind?
Up late, as usual.
Pierre Trudeau?
Snorgle - No. DrQ - No. Rosie - No.
snorgle's summary above is OK - but don't be misled by the 'entertaining' part - I refer to my comments to BtD further back.
Raak - I think we eliminated 'politician' earlier , so No
Was he black?
We're getting there!
Breadmaster - No.
A scientist?
Or an artist? (of the non-entertaining kind)
Darren - No. Artist [as in painter?] No.
A sportsman?
Raak - " I refer the honourable member to my previous reply ..."
**brief recap**
So a dead, somewhat entertaining gentleman of Canadian parentage who wasn't a sportsman, scientist, artist, or politican. He lived in the 20th Century but died more than 20 years ago.
Lenny Bruce?
"I'm sorry if I'm not very funny tonight, but I'm not a comedian, I'm Lenny Bruce."
DrQ - No.
Recap fine, but forget the 'entertaining' part of it - that was more of an 'aside'.
It's why I suggested Lenny Bruce.
Was he the bloke who wrote the Kinsey Report, i.e. Kinsey?
Was he a published writer at all?
Rosie - No. Darren - YES!
At last - a breakthrough. Bring on the literati . . .
Ernest Hemingway?
Uh-oh...
I would check if he had Canadian parentage, but then that'd kinda take the fun out of it a bit. Plus, I think I'd make a mad chair.
Of course, I did mean bad chair. And no I wasn't talking about carpentry.
Is he best known as a writer of fiction?
Is he on this list?
Tuj - No. Inkspot - Yes ... but. Raak - ahem.
Inkspot - His work is considered somewhere between fiction and non-fiction.
Raak - He was American, but of Canadian extraction, so he may or may not be on your list.
Was he a columnist for a newspaper?
The output of some political sketch writers blurr the line between fact and fiction.
Inkspot - No ... but
...I'm sure he wrote magazine articles from time to time as a sideline.
Mark Twain?
Who's got a scanner? TWAIN = Thing Without An Interesting Name, so I'm told. :-)
Was he best known as an essayist?
That is, as opposed to a novelist. Knowing what you have on your bookshelves I leave the poetry until later.... :-)
Edgar Allen Poe?
His parents were travelling actors, but I dunno if they were Canadian...
Jack Kerouac?
He had French-Canadian parents.
Died in the first half of last century?
Rosie - No. Dujon - not really. Bob the dog - No.
.... but ... wait for it ... *drum roll*
Darren - YES! YES YES YES!!
Well done, me old mate - here's the man ... if anyone's interested.
Underlining Darren's victoreeeee

Crikey
*General applouse for Darren*
And some applause too, even...
This new one will be ABSTRACT, although arguably there are animal, vegetable and mineral connections..
Thanks all!
An organisation?
Chalky sounds very excitable these days. I wonder what's going on.
Fictional?
Incidentally, if the subject were, say, Frodo, would that count as abstract as well as animal? I would assume that "fictional" and "abstract" mean quite different things, but it looks to me like there might be a bit of fuzziness between them in the context of this game.
Not Frodo, is it?
Worth a try.
Einstein's Theory of Relativity?
Rosie - no. Breadmaster - yes and no. Tuj - no. Raak - no.
Breadmaster's answer is vague because it depends how you interpret it.
(a) God?
of any religion..
Is there or could there be more than one?
is it a huan concept?
Is it written down in some form?
Is it an event?
Magic?
Is it something whose existence is controversial, so that some people believe it is real but others believe it is only fictional?
Controversy already. Excellent!
snorgle - no. Raak - yes and no. Software - yes. Bob - yes. Inkspot - could be considered as one, I suppose. Boolbar - no. Breadmaster - hehehehehe, no.
Again, Raak's answer depends on how I interpret his question.
I assumed Software means "human."
The American Constitution?
Yes it was ,BTW.
Is it more than 100 years old?
Does it have a colour?
The Bible?
The Koran?
I think Raak's right.
Software - no. Inkspot - no. Boolbar - not a specific one, no. Raak - no. Breadmaster - no.
Raak and Breadmaster - you're way off!
And don't get misled by the "in written form" thing. It *has* been in written form, but that's not its main form.
Is it a subject of study?
Huxley - well, someone probably has studied it in academic terms at some time or another, but as a general rule, no.
Is it instructional in any way?
Is it a film?
Chalky - no. Big Dave - YES.
Big Dave has made the first major breakthrough.
released in the last two years?
Bob the dog - no.
Is it in colour? (as opposed to black and white)
Frankenstein?
Does it star anyone who has been a governor of California?
 
Boolbar - yes. Raak - no. DrQ - no.
Documentary?
 
gil - no.
was it made in America?
Is it funny?
Is it of the horror genre?
Bob - yes. Raak - yes (of course, different people have different opinions). Tuj - yes.
Is it Scream?
Though I equally laughed at The Blair Witch Project.
Evil Dead 2
Funniest horror movie I ever saw.
Sorry, that was a question... Evil Dead 2?
Inkspot - no. Bob - no.
Is is "Eraserhead"?
Kim - no.
I'd suggest you try narrowing it down a bit further!
Released before 1980?
 
DrQ - yes.
By the way, Kim, if I remember correctly, "Eraserhead" is in black and white, not colour.
Does it involve vegetables in a leading role?
Was it released after 1970?
"Plan 9 From Outer Space"
 
"Invasion of the Body Snatchers"?
Sci-fi?
Is it intended as a comedy?
I now give DrQ the kiss of death by saying I think he's right.
Ibid - no. Inkspot - yes. DrQ - no. Chalky - no. Kayl - no. Breadmaster - to a point.
BM's kiss worked, it seems. By the way, DrQ, you don't need to put &nbsp; in Stance any more, that problem seems to have been fixed.
Rocky Horror Picture Show?
Is it horror?
Did it win an Oscar?
Inkspot - no but you're on the right lines. Raak - see Tuj above. Boolbar - no.
Boolbar - ...but it was nominated for one.
The Mummy?
The kiss never fails.
Breadmaster - no.
Young Frankenstein?
Ibid - no.
The Exorcist?
Carrie?
The Little Shop of Horrors?
ah ... just realised it can't be, because you said No to Ibid's question about vegetables in a leading role. What the hell - I'll post this anyway.
The Amityville Horror?
The only Oscar nominated horror (for musical score) from the 70's that we haven't already mentioned that I can recall.
LSoH
Chalky... it was also made in the 80s.
Huxley - no. Chalky - no. Ibid - no.
Wol - no. (sorry for missing you first time round!)
Inkspot was pretty close with Rocky Horror.
Singalongasoundofmusic?
Shirley Thompson vs. The Aliens?
Raak - no. Huxley - no.
Summer of Secrets?
( I am assuming I'm only allowed to ask one question at a time )
Huxley - no.
Feel free to ask as many as you feel like, as long as you don't end up flooding the room with a million films!
Shock Treatment?
darren] I'll do my best not to, but I'm on a roll here!
Huxley - no.
You're still along the right lines though.
Is it really an oscar nominated horror comedy from the 1970s?
Since I can't think of any I haven't already mentioned, I'm puzzled.
Ibid - yes, it really is.
And all those characteristics are in the IMDB entry for this film. It can't be *that* hard to get!
Did Brian de Palma have anything to do with it?
'cos I can't remember the name of the film...
Fade to Black?
Huxley - no. Ibid - YES.
Ibid, I think you've got it, you just need the title!
Phantom of the Paradise?
Surely not
Phantom of the Paradise?
Simul'ed - but I'm not retracting, as Hux has just done!
That was an abbreviated "surely it's not Phantom of the Paradise is it?" thankyouverymuch.
Sisters?
(just in case)
[Hux] OK - I'll fight you for it ;-) Or, you have Sisters and I'll have PotP ...
You keep your grubby simul' posting hands off my guesses.
Huxley and Wol - CORRECT!
Yes, it was Phantom of the Paradise. So, Huxley is in the chair for the next round (sorry Wol, Huxley did post first!).
Gosh - that was quite exciting
Well done Huxley on the photo-finish. Better luck next time, Wol - and a worthy third place to Ibid the pacemaker.
Nice setup there Ibid! As soon as you mentioned De Palma, the movie just lept out of my long-term memory... a quick check on IMDB confirmed the facts.
I too will go with ABSTRACT
And, unfortunately, I am heading on home and will have not have time to check in tonight... I will answer guesses first thing in the morning.
Is there more than one of them?
Ah well, I was refusing to look it up on IMDB as a matter of principle. But I just couldn't remember the title.
Is it numerical?
Does it involve religion?
 
Is it unique to humans?
Could I pay money to buy some?
Can it be seen?
Does it have organoleptic properties (ie is it perceived by the senses)?
Going more broadly than Inkspot. [Hux] ... and I put my back out stretching for the line like that!
Does it involve emotion?
A very vague move but I'll stick with it.
Ibid - no. Kayl - no. DrQ - no. Darren - no. Tuj - possibly, yes. Inkspot - yes. Wol - yes. Noodle - yes.
[Tuj] the answer to yours is genuinely "Possibly yes". [Wol] ... me too, my neck hurts as well.
Love?
Bob - no.
Would it be considered one of the 'arts'?
Chalky - No.
Now of course wishing had gone for more specific move...
Is it generally considered a positive thing?
Ibid - no.
Is it a colour? [black?]
Is it an action?
Wol] Sorry, simulposted.
There is not more than one of them.
It is not numerical.
It does not involve religion.
It is not unique to humans.
You could possibly pay money to buy some.
It can be seen.
It can be perceived by the senses.
It does involve emotion.
It is not love.
It would not be considered one of the 'arts'.
Is it not generally considered to be a positive thing.
Is it one of the seven deadly sins?
Wol - 'fraid not. Ibid - nope.
[Bob]so far, so good.
Could it exist without animals or humans?
Does it tend to ilicit an emotional response?
Is it pain?
Inkspot - no. Kim - yes. Ibid - no.
Childbirth?
Mortality?
Raak - no and no.
[all] We're headed slowly in the right direction.
Does it cause physical damage?
Is it a disease?
Is it generally a positive thing?
Is it sex?
One track mind.
Ibid - not as a rule, Raak - it's not considered as one, Darren - no, Bob - no.
Getting warmer!! :)
Impotence?
Is it artificial (as opposed to natural)?
Rabies?
Chalky - no, Wol - no, Boolbar - no.
A short lifespan?
Is it exclusive to humans?
Death?
Along with Death of Rats!
Kayl]see Darren
Raak - no, Kayl - no, Inkspot - no.
Obesity?
I'm getting stuck here.
Ibid - no.
[ibid] You're close but not quite there.
[all]You may want to ponder on the fact that, oddly, Noodles superlatively vague question was about as close as anyone has come so far.
Does it involve one specific emotion?
Inkspot] Indeed.
Kayl - no
Is it dieting?
unhappiness?
Is it a celebtration?
Is it *an* emotion?
self-consciousness? (awkwardness, that sort of thing, not the 'awareness' track)
Is it crying?
Love?
Is it depression?
Is it something to do with physical appearance?
Anorexia Nervosa?
<serious >Having had a daughter go through it - it is not funny.</serious>
An aside
From comments I have seen in another place, this does not seem to be a problem with some of our posters! ... Tee hee!
Inkspot - no, Ibid - no, Bob - no, Tuj - no, Chalky - no, Dujon - no.
My last clue, regarding Noodles Vague Question, will require a little lateral thinking.
[Dujon]One of my sister in-laws has been going through it all of her life. she recovered for a short while a couple of years ago but we have noticed that she started back down that path again a few months ago.
Obesity?
Software - no.
RECAP
There is not more than one of them.
It is not numerical.
It does not involve religion.
It is not unique to humans.
You could possibly pay money to buy some.
It can be seen.
It can be perceived by the senses.
It does involve emotion.
It is not love.
It would not be considered one of the 'arts'.
Is it not generally considered to be a positive thing.
It isn't a colour.
It isn't one of the seven deadly sins.
It couldn't exist without animals or humans.
It elicits an emotional response.
It isn't pain.
It isn't childbirth.
It isn't mortality.
It doesn't, as a rule, cause physical damage.
It is not considered a disease.
It is not a positive thing.
It isn't sex.
It isn't impotence.
It isn't artificial.
It isn't rabies.
It isn't a short lifespan.
It isn't exclusive to humans.
It isn't death.
It isn't obesity [but 'close' said Hux].
It doesn't involve one specific emotion.
It isn't a celebration.
It isn't 'an' emotion.
It isn't crying.
It isn't love.
It isn't depression.
It isn't anorexia nervosa.

OK there seem to be some missing answers, if I've read it right:
Is it an action? [Bob]
Is it dieting? [Darren]
Is it unhappiness? [Chalky]
Is it self-consciousness? [LotUS]
Is it something to do with physical appearance? [Darren]
Phew!

Is it something that can affect anyone/anything?
I'm intrigued by the fact that it's not exclusive to humans.
Bravo Chalky.
Chalky - yes, It could affect anyone, but NOT anything.
First, the missing answers (apologies to all):
It is not an action
it is not dieting
it is not unhappiness
it is not self-conciousness and it is not something to do with physiscal appearance.
I am surprised at how long this one is going on... I thought it would be a case of "four questions and we're done".
A clue...
[Raak] You might want to break out the thesaurus for one of your earlier questions that was close but forced a rather vague answer from me.
Would it be considered a 'disorder'?
Albinism?
Chalky - not a disorder, no. Raak - no.
Is it associated with a loss of some sort?
Stabbing in the dark, slightly confused.
Infertility?
Inkspot - no. Chalky - no.
Let me recap the important questions (in descending order of relevance)... as it seems that all are confused...


(1) It is not considered a good thing.
(2) It can be perceieved by the senses
(3) It could not exist without animals or humans
(4) It is not a "disease"
(5) It is not a "disorder"
(6) It isn't unique to humans

and... If you think sideways, Noodle was so so so so so close with his vague question...
As for (4) and (5) you might want to consider a thesaurus.
Homesickness?
NOT homesickness
I am retracting my last question ... because homesickness is associated with a loss
Could my goldfish have it?
This is a killer. I am absolutely stumped by the fact that you could buy it.
Some sort of fear or phobia?
Can this manifest itself - without the influence/impact of another being?
awkwardly phrased, sorry - but I can't think of any other way to ask
Is it a virus?
I'm thinking influenza or some such
Breadmaster - I have no conclusive proof that goldfish have it, but in theory I don't see why not. Chalky - It doesnt need the influence of another "being", LotUS - it's not a virus.
Breadmaster - let's just say you dont buy "it" but spending money could could increase "its" likelihood.
But then again... if it's what you really wanted, then I suppose you could "buy" it... but I don't know who would!
*points Huxley towards his question*
Is is Poverty?
Is it a personality trait?
Arthritis?
If not a disease maybe an ailment or complaint like a bad back!
Boolbar - no, Kim - no, Chalky - no, Inkspot - no
I'll toss in a question and answer it:
Is it caused by environmental conditions?
Hux - yes.
Is it connected with breathing?
And is it audible?
Sorry to keep hogging questions, but just had another thought. Is it an addiction?
Hay Fever?
Darren: no, no, and no. Boolbar - no.
I fear that this one may never get solved.
Can it be heard?
S.A.D. syndrome?
Sun burn?
Ibid - not really, no. Chalky - no. Inkspot - no.
Being fat?
Vertigo?
Raak - no. Inkspot - no, but you're barking up the right tree!
Is it a phobia?
Repetition!
A nightmare?
clutching at straws
Chalky - no
Stomach ache?
Is it something to do with what you eat?
sea-sickness?
*ting* jetlag?
Breadmaster - no, Boolbar - no, Wol - no, Chalky - YES!
Well done Mr. Chalky!!!

I was thinking of Motion Sickness, and I dont think anyone will argue that Sea/air/car sickness is it.

So, I get to draw a line and let the Chalkmeister take over:
I must say...
...that I've never thought about motion sickness in such detail! I had to read Noodles "Does it involve emotion?" question at least three times to make sure the "e" was there.
Here have another line just to keep it clean...

Congrats to Chalky!!
Although I feel I must point out that when I was sea-sick, it had a lot to do with what I ate! :o)
PING
Gender Alert!! Chalky, SHE will not be amused, ;-)
Whoopseedaisie....
Chalky] Madamoiselle you have my sincerest apologies...
Parrots are us
Well solved Chalky and well set Huxely. Hindsight being wonderful perhaps if only homesickess had been answered.
Chalky swings...
I'd be interested in knowing what led Chalky from "clutching at straws" with "nightmare" to "sea-sickness".
Meisterful
[Hux] Oh I dunno ... it's quite nice being called the Chalkmeister. You won't remember the Trappist Spot the Ostrich game in YAMCS when I arrived, as it were. [By the way, that was a cracking game - sublimely silly ... we should do it in here sometime]

Aha ... have just previewed and seen your posting - it just struck me - a combination of lateral thinking [replacing emotion with motion] and your environment clue. I WAS going to ask if the 'condition' was temporary, but then thought b*ll*cks to all that namby-pambying around so just went for it ...

Trappist Spot The Ostrich
One of my favorites on YAMCS... I dont think I ever recounted the story of how I backed up YAMCS onto my hard disk after I brought it down and then my laptop gave up the ghost... YAMCS will remain forever a memory and nothing more :(
Sitting under a palm tree sipping tea
Chalky you can relive Ostrich, thanks to DrQ.
No....!
I forgot that I had emailed it to DrQ... I must get it back so that I can bring it back to life! :)
YAMCS
[Hux] Really, I never got it.... I just saved a few of the pages that I thought were excellent.
Ostrich revisited
[Inkspot] Lovely! Thanks.
New Object - *V E G E T A B L E *
Nice & easy this time.
Is it edible?
Softly, softly.....
Kim - YES
I reckon this one will take 10 guesses max.
Is it a fruit?
Pomegranite?
Wild stabs in the dark should ensure that as a roughly once a day MC player I won't be the chair.
Is it ball shaped?
Does it grow above ground?
Tuj - No. Boolbar - er ... No. Inkspot - er ...YES
there is a reason for my hesitation ... sorry, I can't be more specific at this early stage.
Is it green?
Ibid - YES, it can be
Sorry Darren [missed yours] - er....No.
CORRECTION: Darren - YES, I believe it is
Would you want to eat while it was green?
Ibid - YES.
Clarifying Inkspot's...is the part you eat above ground while it's still growing?
 
When it's fully grown, is this fruit larger than a tennis ball?
Is it eaten with the skin?
Like apples, but then I also eat the core and pips.
A pineapple?
Mayhap that is a vegetable?
DrQ - No. Darren - No. Inkspot - No. Software - No.
I have answered a firm NO to DrQ and Inkspot even though the answer *could* be yes - but I fear I would mislead you all. There's a vital question that no-one has asked yet, which should clarify things.
A pepper?
No idea what the vital question could be, so I'm going for it. Most annoyed to see that I almost guessed right on the last one, goddammit!
Is it usually eaten cooked?
Breadmaster - No. Inkspot - not necessarily.
I fear this may go on a bit longer than I'd originally predicted . . .
a quick summary
It's edible

It isn't a fruit - hang on, yes it is

It isn't ball-shaped

it grows above ground (hesitatingly

you would want to eat it while it is green

it isn't eaten with the skin on (but it could be)

the part you eat is below ground while it's growing (but it could be above ground)

It's not necessarily eaten cooked

... and it's not a pomegranate, pepper or pineapple.

Is it usually eaten raw?
simulpost! but I'll leave it, as both may apply! :) GAh! simulposted again!
asparagus?
An onion?
Recap - misleading!
But thanks Wol ...
Some clarification is called for:
Originally a fruit
Originally above ground
Originally can be green
Originally raw or cooked with skin on
Originally ball-shaped and small
There - I've given you THE CLUE - now any passing lurker should be able to guess it
Sounds like a crab apple to me, but then I'm odd and regularly dig them up to use the worms as bait ... :-(
Wol, Raak, Duj - the answer is NOT a fruit in it's entirety
*sigh*
Hey up, lass, don't give up on us; here, have a cyber cuddle ... ;-)
sounds like a nut (walnut?) to me
but I'm clutching at proverbials now.
[Wol] Watchit, son - it'll send you blind, you know!
[Duj] Clutching at nuts don't send you blind - but it does hurt ...
Ooh, ooh - it's a bean, isn't it?
Duj & Wol - It isn't made from a nut or a bean ....
Thanks for the cuddle, Duj :-)
applesauce?
Jam? Marmalade?
I'm having a great day at work this Friday, you can tell ...
That should have been Wol, not Women's Online Institute ... oh dear.
snorgs, Wol - No, No & No
You're along the right lines now - just remember that I hesitated about the 'fruit' thing ....
Wol - I'm hoping someone will guess this soon, so I can actually get some work done :-)
Rhubarb?
Audience; rhubarb, rhubarb, rhubarb ... Cut! ..... Cook No, no, no - a 45° angle, phurleese!
Duj - No
What time of day is it there? :-)
Tomato sauce?
technically a fruit, but..
Retiring
G'nite, Chalky. Late for me to be in the workshop playing computers - far too much imbibing has taken place (as you probably have noticed! - hence the question?) Must off before I totally disgrace myself.
snorgs - No
... but the best guess so far. Tomato sauce has too many additives to be labelled just a 'vegetable'. This particular thing is quite pure, by comparison.
See!
Whoops! The time - yours +10. That is, as I type, 8:40pm.
tomato soup?
No, you're on summer time; yours + 9. Told you!
snorgle - Nothing to do with tomatoes
[Duj] That's quite early really, imbibing-wise ;-)
fruit (apple?) juice?
Wol - No
remember - it's not an obvious 'fruit'. I had to look it up.
Gooseberry sauce
What's green and goes up and down?
Maple syrup?
Ribena?
Guacamole? Made from Avocado pear..
I looked it up, its a fruit!
Inkspot, Huxley - No & No
I'll have to go soon ...hence another clue to speed things up - it's savoury rather than sweet. [I can't believe no-one has asked these obvious questions :-)]
Marrow rum
I made some of this when I was a teenager. You remove the seeds from the marrow and fill it with brown sugar. Then you hang it in a pair of tights and put a bowl underneath to catch the liquor. It was the most disgusting thing I have ever tasted (among things that are meant to be tasted, anyway).
I place my curse on Snorgle by stating definitively that she simply has to be right.
Soy sauce?
ahem
oh chalky...
simulpost - snorgs - No. Breadmaster - No. Darren - No
but getting closer - it's very common - I bet most of us use it
Olives? erm with pimiento..
Shaken or stirred?
snorgs - have another guess - quick!!
you got the right 'fruit'
someone - guess it - pleeeeeez
Hummous? Olive Oil?
have gone blank on olivey things..
A pea?
Tapenade?
OLIVE OIL is the CORRECT answer!!
well done snorgs - I was thinking of the extra virgin type, but hey - what's an extra pressing between friends.
A quick post - mortem:
I can't help thinking that if the original questions had been more generic, ie. Is it a vegetable product? Can you drink it? Is it savoury/sweet? Is it grown in this country? .... we might have got there a bit quicker without doing the rounds of various fruits... but hindsight is always cleverer, and besides - I knew the answer, as I suspect Darren did [but was holding back] :-)
***MINERAL***
Yay! I'm at work and its quiet so I should be able to keep an eye on this..
natural?
I'm not (any more), and can't, alas.
Is it found all over the world?
At lunch in the library, see you back at the office.
Wol - no. Inkspot - yes.
oh, someone answered, at last!
Is it a volcanic rock?
no.
That's natural, isn't it?
Does it have moving parts?
 
Is it something we can get into?
Does it require semiconductor devices to operate?
Sorry, I have a stinking cold and appear to have lost some of my ability to read. I completely skipped over a line.
DrQu+xum - no. Boolbar - no. Ibid - no!
Ibid - that would have narrowed down the field a bit.. :)
Is it larger than a housebrick?
Is it used to make other things?
ie. a material rather than an end-product.
Rosie - not normally. Boolbar - no.
Boolbar, the answer could be yes if you're a modern artist, but that covers anything, eggs, alligators, bodily fluids.. :)
If I found it in the house, would I want to get rid of it?
no.
unless you have a wierd fear..
Does it have a set shape?
Is it made from more than one material?
shhhhhhhh! back in the office, eating a Mars bar
Darren-pretty much, with minor variations. Inkspot - it can be..
Off on my lunch now, so back in half an hourish.. :D
Is it a container of some kind?
Rosie - no, not really
I'm thinking of a container as in a box, bowl or similar type of thing. I wouldn't think of this as a container, as such..
Is it something one encounters in daily life?
Is it made of glass?
Huxley - yes. Inkspot - it could be, but isn't usually.
Is it related to eating or drinking?
(also bored at work on Friday afternoon and filling billable hours with online capers)
A tile?
Is it used only in the home?
If I get another could be, I'm going home early :)
Is it a toilet?
A wild thought, hehehe.
Huxley - yes. Raak - no. Inkspot - no. Darren, no... :P
Is it something you'd eat off?
A plate? A saucer?
Does it require electricity?
is it a piece of cutlery?
Is it a cup or mug?
Darren - sort of; Raak - no; Ibid - no; Huxley - Yes!; Darren - no.
But what sort of cutlery? :)
And at this point, I bow out as I dont have time to chair a round this weekend... so passing it on....
OOh! So what lucky soul is going to be next?
Or are you all TOO SCARED?!?!?!
Fish knife?
Never entirely sure about those.
nope.
Fork?
Spoon?
Ladle?
A spoon! Yes! (about bloody time..) :)
***goes wild for Darren***
WOOOH! YAY!
This is usually VEGETABLE and MINERAL and can be ANIMAL too.
Thanks all!
Something to do with clothing?
Raak - YES!
That was a quick breakthrough!
a shoe?
Jewelry?
Wol - YES. DrQ - no.
This is getting very rapid! But a little more precision is needed.
Is it worn usually by men and/or women?
Inkspot - yes.
A pair of slippers?
Inkspot - no.
A boot?
DrQ - no.
A training shoe?
Would such an item normally contain wood? ... :-)
A pair of socks?
A snowshoe?
Are they for a particular use?
eg ballet shoes
Associated with sport?
Is it a sandal?
A deck shoe?
Dujon - no. Raak - no and no. Inkspot - theoretically yes. BM - theoretically yes. Kim - no. Software - no. Bob - YES, CORRECT!!!!
I must admit it took you much less time than I anticipated! Well done Bob the dog, you're in the chair for the next round.
I got it!
Well - thank you! I really enjoyed that quick-fire round. How about another?
This next one is VEGETABLE and MINERAL.
Is this some sort of building?
Leather-lined steel manacles?
Made with, er, vegetarian leather.
Is the vegetable part wood?
Darren - no, Raak (!leather-lined steel manacles? :o) - no, and vegetable part not wood either.
The Shadow Cabinet?
At least that's what they look like to me.
Is it man-made?
DrQu+xum - No (although I smiled at the suggestion)
Darren - Yes
Is it edible?
Is it a single individual or a class of things?
Is the mineral part salt?
Darren - Yes Breadmaster - Not a yes or no answer question - but I think it is fair to say that I am thinking of a single individual item which is part of a class of things
Raak - Yes
Is it a salted peanut?
Hehehe, or a ready-salted crisp?
Two pints of lager and a packet of crisps?
A chip?
Salted cod?
We have a winner!
Raak - if only!
Ibid - No
Tuj - Cod - a vegetable?
Darren - Not crisp but YES, it was a salted peanut. Audience goes wild for Darren!!
Looks like you've regained the chair - back to you...
Thinks: Is getting it in 9 some kind of record? I shall have to be more obscure next time...
Standing in line

Looks like it's me again, and this one is ABSTRACT and/or ANIMAL, depending on your approach.
Thanks Bob the Dog!
Is it a mythical or symbolic animal?
Raak - in a way, it is, yes.
Is it a God?
Does it have religious significance?
Inkspot - no. Kim - no.
Has it starred in an animated film?
Was it invented by a particular person?
Is it a black dog?
*storming into this game with a completely wild guess*
Is 'it' a fictional character?
Fine tuning Raak's earlier and meaning from a film/novel or their ilk as opposed to from "real" legend/myth or theirs.
Is it associated with a particular nation?
Is it a fictional/mythical human?
Is it capable of metamorphosis?
Chalky - no. Raak - YES. CdM - no. Dujon - YES. Rosie - well, yes, I suppose it is. Bob the dog - YES. LotUS - no.
Some useful inroads there.
Is it a male fictional character?
A detective?
Harry Potter?
It usually is.
Is it from an 'ancient' story ?
By 'ancient' I mean Roman/Greek/Egyptian
Bob - yes. Raak - no. rab - no. Inkspot - no.
Arthur Dent?
Do we know him by his full name [more than one word]?
... although I have a sneaky feeling that Boolbar is correct
James Bond?
I also have a sneaky feeling, but it has nothing to do with Boolbar.
[Bob] Mine was more of a 'hunch' - and yours . . .?
Does the person appear in a SF/Fantasy?
Chalky] A sort of premonition - I feel that I'm going to sneak someone elses chocolate pudding...
Boolbar - no. Chalky - yes (if you do indeed know him). Bob - no. Inkspot - no.
Male?
Did the person first appear in written fiction? (Screenplays don't count.)
Comic character?
Raak - (1) we've already had that, (2) no. Chalky - yes.
Is the character animated? (In the disney/pixar sense)
American?
Does this character appear in more than one film?
Dennis the Menace?
I could ask a more general question, but I'm not sure how to phrase it, so I'll keep stabbing (as the bishop said to the hockey team).
Was the character's first appearance on television?
A computer game character?
Bob - no (and we've almost had that before too). Chalky - no. Boolbar - no. rab - no. Raak - as it happens, no I don't think it was. Chalky - no.
Was his first appearance in the theatre?
Raak - no.
Before we go further down this route, I should say I'm not sure where this character first appeared, but I believe it was on radio.
Is it a child?
Does this character appear in a British film?
Was his first appearance less than 20 years ago?
Does this character appear in a publication containing largely, or only, comic strips?
Does this character wear spectacles?
snorgle - no. Bob - no. Chalky - yes. rab - no. Boolbar - no.
Is this character 'voiced' by an actor/comedian?
... meaning - is this a comic creation?
Alan Partridge?
Does this character speak in the English language?
Does this character 'live' in England?
Samantha?
Probably down in the archives this very moment.
Inkspot - Is Samantha a man? I may find out later - am off to Winchester to see Humph, Barry, Graeme, Tim et al.
Is the character still on the radio?
Forget my last guess
Must remember to pay attention, male has already been established by Btd
Chalky - (1) yes (2) no. Bob - yes. Boolbar - yes. Inkspot - (1) no, (2) no.
A Hollywood movie?
Chalky] If you see Samantha - you will be the first! But I am very jealous of your trip to Winchester! I saw ISIHAC at the RSC here in Stratford with Willy R - and my sides still ache just thinking about it.
Are you sure his appearance was less than twenty years ago?
:-)
Is this character still on TV?
Not including repeats.
Bob - no. CdM - 99.9% sure, yes. Boolbar - well, he's supposed to be making a new appearance, but then again you can never tell these days. But I'll say YES in this case.
[Darren] Now that should ring a bell - but it doesn't.
The Doctor?
I guess he's not human, but I'll throw him in anyway..
Ken?
Manager and next-door neighbour to John Shuttleworth?
In that case, is it John Shuttleworth?
David Brent?
Winchester...
Chalky] Winchester as in Hampshire, England? I live not more than 20 miles from there! Have I missed it?
As we speak...
Zounds! They really don't publicise these things, do they?
Or am I just not alert?
Anything to do with Monty Python or related personae?
Better take a proper stance...
Alf Garnet
Silly Moo
snorgle - no. Boolbar - no. Bob - no. Tuj - no. plump - no. Raak - YESSSS!!!!
Raak is CORRECT!!!! Raak is the next chairhostpersonman.

AUDIENCE GOES WILD!


Woohoo for Raaaaaak
Well done Raak - s'about time you had a crack at being in the chair.
[Darren] Was David Brent really on the radio at first?? If he was, I certainly missed a trick - that's why I didn't offer him as a guess.
[Tuj] Re ISIHAC I'll transfer to the Banter Game with my reply.
[Chalky] Well, I don't think he had that name. I was going by my recollections of the documentary on the Office series 1 DVD, where they mentioned Ricky Gervais was working as a DJ and had a character called "Seedy Boss" or something, which Stephen Merchant made a short film about which became the precursor of episode 1. Of course, I might have got that all screwy in my head.
(that's a radio DJ I mean)
Showing Ignorance
Who on Earth is David Brent? I suppose I could google, but couldn't be bothered. ... :-(
Personalities
I suppose that I should post this elsewhere but, whilst we await the ghost of Raak to appear: Being resident of territory outside the U.K. things can, and do, become difficult at times. Take Celebdaq; I try hard (sniggers) but honestly do not know 90% of the names which appear on the various lists! Sigh! Still, maybe it is not such a disadvantage? Whilst any refugee from MWP will now proceed to howl me down, I partake in a 'football' league which concentrates on the EPL. After the first month, guess who led the pack! All right, sorry; I shall now sink back into anonymity ... ;-)
Even more ignorance
Dujon] I am a UK resident and I don't know who David Brent is either...
This is MINERAL and ABSTRACT.
For those not yet on the same page, David Brent is the principal character of the award-winning sitcom "The Office", and is played by Ricky Gervais. I've only seen one or two episodes, but it is truly excellent. I didn't know it began as a radio show though.
Is it fictional/mytical/...?
As far as you know, does it exist soley on the planet Earth?
Unlike one Btd ;o)
rab: er...bit of a judgement call, that one. Bob the dog: yes.
Is it unique being only one of its kind?
Has it been touched by human hand?
Trying to establish in what sense it's 'abstract'...
Inkspot: yes. rab: no -- if it could be touched, it wouldn't be abstract, surely?
Is it the Holy Grail?
Just jumping in on the off-chance.
and if not... is it a metal object?
covering two bases...
Does it exist in printed form?
LotUS: no; yes, mostly, I think. Btd: while it has been written about, the thing itself is not something printed.
The Pearly Gates?
Has it religious connections?
Wild stab and a question. Back to the grind stone!
An aethiometer?
I think Inkspot is on to something here...
Is it a weapon?
Inkspot: no, and no. Btd: no. LotUS: YES!
Excalibur?
Is it the dagger the lady McBethh saw?
Just thinking of a weapon that could not be touched, and has been written about.
The Sword in the Stone
As I think it's a different sword than Excalibur.
The Sword of Damocles?
If not, is it *a* sword?
snorgle: no. Inkspot: no. snorgle: no. Ibid: no, and no.
[Raak] I think we're misunderstanding each other - if it's not mythical, then surely it exists and has been touched by human hand... but anyway, the two things I was thinking (Holy Grail and Excalibur) have both been suggested so I'll pass, and these are both wrong anyway....
Thor's hammer - Mjollnir?
Is it a bladed weapon?
Was it written about in a play (first)?
Is it associated with a particular culture?
rab]I think the misunderstanding may go back a bit as something fictional does not necessarily have to be mythical, other than that I'm still stabbing in the dark.
Does it involve ballistics?
LotUS: no, and no. rab: no. Inkspot: yes. DrQ: YES.
[Inkspot] Yes, it's definitely not mythical; fictional is very close although not quite bang on.
Is it the Ancient Mariner's crossbow that shot the Albatross?
Is it a firearm?
Is it featured in poetry?
Did it make it's literary debut in the last 100 years?
Is it C S Forester's eponymous gun?
Is it from a song?
Who killed cock robin?
I said the lion and quite tasty he was too!
Boolbar: no. LotUS: no. Btd: no. rab: yes. Wol: no. Inkspot: no.
I'll give you a hint: literature is the wrong path to go down.
Correction
My answer to LotUS should be "that could be a part of it".
Does it feature in a computer game? Doom's BFG perhaps?
Is it a vehicle (whereof a ballistic weapon is a part)?
Would it need a human to use this weapon?
or is it some sort of automatic weapon?
rab: It probably has done; not BFG. Wol: that would be a part of it. Boolbar: yes
Wol gets a ripple of pre-ejaculatory excitement from the audience.
Is it featured in a movie?
Is it a weapon that could exist in the future (but doesn't at the moment)?
Is it Iraq's WMD?
... perplexed by the 'not exactly fictional' bit.
Btd: It will be. :-) Boolbar: yes. Wol: YESYESYESYES!!!
Not fictional, in the sense of a work of literature; fictional, in the sense of (I am assuming) not actually existing.

Wol has the chair.

WMD
But they do exist! I distinctly recall selling them to Sadd... er.. I mean... ACT PATRIOTIC! *runs*

Oooh, this is exciting. ABSTRACT.
Does it have a religious aspect?
Is it in a film?
Is it an emotion?
Does it exist *solely* on Earth?
Can it be measured by science?
Raak] Lovely!
Ibid - no; Boolbar - quite possibly, but only incidentally; LotUS - no; DrQ - no; Btd - no.
A force of nature?
actually ...
DrQ - in fairness, yes. And Chalky - no.
Is it something that we can see?
Is it an idea?
... yes, I was wonderin' about your answer to the 'solely on earth' question
Is it fictional?
Chalky - no. (re 'solely on earth' - 'no' is accurate, in one way, but just not fair). Raak - er, yes.
Has it been written about?
Chalky - quite possibly, but only incidentally.
Is it used to scare small children?
Does it have a basis in a religion?
Do many people believe it exists?
Do many people believe it doesn't exist?
Do many people have no opinion either way?
Boolbar - no; Btd - no; Raak/Darren - its existence is not in doubt.
Is it singular?
Is it something we can see?
Repeating Boolbar's one that appears to have been missed unless my eyes are playing up again...
Ibid - it's collectively a single thing; and no (sorry, Boolbar!).
Is it a religion itself?
(though I suppose it could scare small children)
MF - no.
Is it something associated with living things?
Could it exist without the presence of Man?
I'm stuck already!
Is it an organisation?
Is it connected with the arts?
Darren - no, not really (I think I'm not entirely sure what you mean, actually). Inkspot - well, it's (er) fictional (see Raak above), so it needs/ed a creator. Other than that, I suppose it could. Raak - no. Chalky - YES! (Is this the breakthrough we need?) Night night all ...
Music?
Is it a particular artwork?
I think I've got it!
Is it the second violin's part in the third movement of Mendelssohn's 4th symphony?
Is this a particular painting?
Darn it; sorry, Darren - I still have not replaced my spectacles (the ones which are well past their 'use by date'. The brain is still being analysed by the experts.
Is it an opera?
Is it rock music? (abstract & mineral, hehehe)
Is it a collection of some kiind
kind, rather
Morning folks. Chalky - yes (so, Dujon - no); Darren/MF - it's collectively a single thing; CdM - do you really think I'd do that? Raak - no; Darren - no.
So is that a yes?
...like the Four Seasons or something?
MF - yes; like that, or something.
Is it European?
Has its existence been known about for more than 100 years?
Is its composer still alive?
Raak - yes; Inkspot - yes; Bm - no.
Was it composed in the eighteenth century?
German?
Vocal music?
Elgar's Enigma variations?
The Planet Suite - Gustav Holst?
Boolbar - yes! rab - yes! Raak - no. Ibid/Chalky - no (Chalky - 1910 or thereabouts, I think!) Nearly there, surely.
Beethoven?
Was it composed by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart?
I always get confused between German and Austrian composers.
Chalky - no. Boolbar - no.
Schubert?
Boolbar - Me too. I have a feeling that Schubert was Austrian. *wnaders off for a google*
Wagner?
Noe he was definitely deutsch.
Brahms? as in Lullaby
may as well eliminate the obvious
Handel? as in Water Musik
am I the only one guessing now?
Franz Joseph Haydn?
Canons by J. S. Bach?
Brandenberg Concerto No 3?
Something by Bach?
Something by one of the Strausses?
[Chalky] Wasn't Brahms Hungarian?
[DrQ] Definitely German - born in Hamburg. You may be thinking of the 'Brahms & Liszt' euphemism? Now Franz Liszt was Hungarian. Also, the Strausses were quite Viennese - Austrian.
Wonder where Wol's got to - leaving us all-a-dangling ....
Sorry, sorry - life impinged for loonger than it should have done this afternoon. Where are we? Chalky/Chalky/Chalkiy/Boolbar/Inkspot/rab/DrQ - no. Raak - yes! (and I'll be kind - there were some 2 or 3 dozen Bach composers spread over 7 generations; it's JS you'll be meaning, I suppose).
Is it a sonata?
Bach's Toccata & Fugue in something minor?
Well-tempered clavier? Concerto?
as above - in 'D' minor?
Re-phrasing - Toccata & Fugue in D Minor?
sorry - simulposted with the rabster and missed the alert
Is this music to be played by a single performer?
The St John Passion ?
Bach's complete works?
Raak - a bit wide!; Btd - no; Chalky/Boolbar - no; rab - YES!!!! and no ...
Bach's 48 Preludes and Fugues it is. Well done, folks - and over to rab.
Bows
Crikee, I wasn't expecting that.

Ok mine is mostly VEGETABLE and ABSTRACT.

I'm leaving the office now, so unless I log on at home tonight, don't expect any answers until tomorrow.

Is it a painting?
- continuing the theme
Look you Bach
Wol]Which of rab's two questions were correct, at the moment I can't see the connection to the "Bach's 48 Preludes and Fugues". How wide of the mark was Raak?
Bach-fach
I think it was rab's "Well-tempered clavier" post that hit the spot. Raak was absolutely on the money if you discount everything Bach ever wrote apart from the 48 preludes and fugues.
Is is something disgusting by Damien Hurst?
Is it artistic?
[Inkspot] Bach's complete works cover around 150 CDs; the Well-Tempered Clavier (the name given to the two books of preludes and fugues - 2 of each in each major and minor key, totalling 48) covers four.
Some sort of sci-fi monster?
polite pianos
Kim/Wol]thank you for the clarification. I had not heard of the Well-Tempered Clavier before, and I won't embarass myself any further by describing the scene in a smithy that jumped to mind when I saw it.
MF: no. Kim: no. Raak: no. Tuj: no.
[Raak] Depends what you mean by artistic of course, but to answer anything but no would lead you up the garden path.
Something to do with food?
Oh, is it the garden path you threatened to lead us up?
Sticking my oar in
I remember well the Jacques Loussier version of Bachs' Well-Tempered Clavier. It was an ear-opener. To this puzzle, I ask the question...is it a triffid?
Catching a crab?
Prawns are my thing - still, just following D5
Ignore that! - too many vinos.
The Enormous Turnip?
Back to the matter at hand!
The Giant Peach?
Just getting a couple of childrens favourites off my chest.
Is it Treebeard?
No to all, except Darren's first (something to do with food).
Is it a recipe?
I'm sure I've asked this before, but we're not taking "fictional" to be a subset of "abstract", are we? Because they mean quite different things. A fictional individual is no more abstract than a real one, it's just fictional. Now, the idea of a thing, fictional or real, may be abstract. But anyone who proposes "The idea of X" as a subject should be expelled and shot, naturally.
BM: No
I was taking 'Abstract' to mean something which exists in people's mind/consciousness and is either impossible or unlikely to exist in a physically tangible form. *disappears up arse*.
By your definition Raak's WMD were not abstract.
Does it feature in a film?
Is it the taste of something?
Does it appear in a book?
Boolbar, Raak, Ibid: no
Is the vegetable part something that can exist (in a non-abstract way)?
ie. The Apple that tempted Eve is V/A but an apple can be V/Non-A.
Boolbar: Yes
Is it a singular item?
Is it in a song?
[rab] But that's not what "sbstract" means, is it? Abstractness and reality are different things, I'd have thought. WMD aren't abstract, whether they exist or not. The boiling point of water is the kind of thing that's abstract. Of course we can make it a convention in this game that "abstract" covers fictional entities too, but I just wanted to check whether that is the case or not *remains firmly up arse, whence he has never emerged yet*
Is there fruit involved in this?
The Aubergine of Doubt?
Is it a tree of some sort?
Is it food for thought?
Is it a mixture of vegetable ingredients?
Genetically Modified Foods?
As far as I can make out - the Vegetable part [the main part] is real and tangible - the Abstract part, I'm assuming, is something intangible that in some way can affect the vegetable part. Although, having said that I do not wish to take issue with whatever is up anyone else's arse.
Inkspot: yes; Breadmaster: no; Ibid: no; Raak: no; Boolbar: no; Bob the dog (i) no (ii) yes; Chalky: no
[Breadmaster] When we find out what it is we can argue the toss as to how abstract it is. As far as I'm concerned there's at least one compelling reason why it should be described as abstract, possibly two.

[Chalky] Pretty much yes.

Is is a recipie?
Kim: neither a recipie nor a recipe, no.
*blushes*
Have we ascertained whether it's edible? Erm . . .Is it?
Chalky: yes!
Is it "having your cake and eating it"?
Is it a saying?
As flat as a pancake; would that count as 'Animal and Abstract'?
Boolbar: no; Inkspot: yes
What animal is a pancake made from? I would argue a saying is abstract: it's neither animal, mineral or vegetable.
Actually it's not quite a saying, but close enough to have answered 'yes' to that question.
Is it a traffic jam?
Is it savoury?
Bob: no to both
Is the vegetable part a root vegetable?
Is it being in a pickle?
Inkspot: see below; Boolbar: no.
[Inkspot] We've already ascertained that it's a compound of more than one vegetable (which I'm taking in a more general sense to mean 'plant'); at least one of the components looks like it might be a root vegetable, but my knowledge of horticulture is not that extensive, nor is google being much help. Sorry.
Is it the best thing since sliced bread?
Is it sweet?
MF: no; BtD: YES!
Does it involve chocolate?
Is it green tomato chutney?
Is it confectionery of some sort?
Lib: whatever gave you that idea?? Boolbar: yes rendering Raak's question redundant.
Is it the cake I can't have and eat?
I know it isn't, but I just had to ask
Is it deep fried corgettes coated in chocolate batter with a side serving of spinach?
[rab] No reason.
Is it the box of chocolates which life isn't like, whatever the film version of Forrest Gump would try to make you believe
I mean, I don't know what US chocolates are like, but UK boxes of chocolates come with a helpful description of what shape is what flavour, and they don't tend to change much from year to year...
Lib: it's more abstract than that! Ibid: less tenous, I think...
Actually, thinking about it, Raak's question is somehow more specific than Boolbars, at the same time as being more general, so I shall honour it with a 'yes'.
Well, I don't know anymore chocolate related sayings (apart from 'give me chocolate or give me death' that one woman I used to know used to declare loudly)
Is it hot chocolate?
Is it a quote?
For example "There are four basic food groups, milk chocolate, dark chocolate, white chocolate, and chocolate truffles."
Darren: no; BtD: no...
...at least not in the sense you mean it (i.e. something that is attributable to someone).
Is it a slogan / advertising copy?
Is it "A Mars a day, helps you work, rest and play"?
Going out on a limb here.
Is it White Chocolate Day?
...being a day invented by chocolate manufacturers in Japan, on which people are supposed to give white chocolate to their loved ones.
(Following on from LotUS) or "Everyone's a Fruit and Nut Case"?
I fink LotUS may have it... Simil-thinked.
No - completely on the wrong track
I'll allow a few more guesses before dropping a hint I think - don't want to spoil anyone's fun.
Death by Chocolate?
... that well-known pudding which I've never eaten
.... or an Easter Egg?
... which I have
*** Recapping service ***
It's made of chocolate; it's some kind of saying, but not an advertising slogan.
Chocolate Soldier?
I take it that was a 'No' then ... twice
About as much use as a chocolate teapot?
If I click on 'Preview' rather than 'Submit' once more I think I'll scream.
as useless as a chocolate teapot or firguard?
Chalky, Tuj: so near but... Inkspot: YES!
I realised the "made of chocolate" might have been a clue too far!

I hope we all agree that this counts as abstract... So Inkspot, congratulations. I hand you the chair.


(It was fireguard, by the way)
Good one - I think Tuj deserves an honorary mention too!
Teapot concretions
It is fortunate that it was not a chocolate teapot, as that would be concrete.
Standing on the soldiers of giants
That was close, I must admit to being completly at a loss for much of the game which is down to a good choice by rab (definitely abstract). And thanks to Chalky, and the 'chocolate soldier'.

Lets see if we can wrap this one up before the weekend MINERAL.

Is it man-made?
Is it found on this planet?
Is it a composition of more than one mineral?
[Bob, Inkspot] I'm glad you liked it!
Is it solid?
Raak; yes Boolbar;yes rab;it can be Bob the Dog;yes
rab]to qualify - it is by and large associated with one, but other compositions are made.
Is it used in a game?
Is it metallic?
Is it usually found in DIY stores?
Is it a specific item?
(i.e. would it be like "a jumper" or "my jumper"?)
Raak;no / Bob the Dog;no / Boolbar;in small quantities and limited selection / Martha Farquar;yes
Is it a device, rather than a consumable?
Is it a firework?
Is it a shopping trolley?
Rosie;no/ Bob the Dog;no / Boolar; no
Is it edible?
Bob the dog;no
Does it have anything to do with plumbing?
Is it a three-eighths Gribley?
Is it made of a ceramic material?
Is it smaller than, say ... a toaster?
Boolbar;no / Raak;no Raak;(pottery/earthenware)no / Chalky; yes
Raak]try rephrasing your second question!!!
Is it one of those things for sharpening tools on?
Does it have any moving parts?
Is it pliable?
Is it made from plastic?
If I dropped one three feet onto a concrete floor, would it break?
Boolbar;no / rab;no / Software;no / Chalky;no / Raak;no(not usually)
Is it made of wood?
Sorry, ignore that, forgot it was Mineral.
Is it made of glass?
Is there a type of High Street shop I would be more likely to find this in than a DIY store?
Raak;no and no
Raak]you were close so going down the right garden path, but it looks like you've just popped next door to check on the lady of the house. I hope you enjoyed the tea and cucumber sandwiches :o)
Is it a container?
Tea and cucumber don't go well together in sandwiches, I find.
Is it any type of adhesive?
Is it made of brick?
Tuj;no / Raak;no / Bob the Dog;no
Btd]you were almost there
man-made/solid/usually made of one particular mineral/a specific item.
Is it concrete?
Glad your are up late Inkspot!
no
Concrete is usually 3 material, sand;cement;lime, and not a specific item smaller than a toaster
I'm quite tired because I've been to the pub so I'm not going to ask another question 'til tomorrow - nighty night all.
Is it a breeze block?
not sure if it counts as being smaller than a toaster though
Is it a brick? (or ventilation type thereof)
If that makes any sense.
Sorry for jumping in like this.
Is it a half-brick?
Ah-ha! If not - oh-ho!
Lotus ;no Lotus;....YES / Tuj;no, sorry but it was 'a brick'
Congratulations Lotus the chair is yours.

Both Raak and Bob the dog came close . With a brick being made of clay, the same material as ceramics and Bob even mentioning made of brick.


My, this chair is staring to get comfortable...
Ah, thank you very much Inkspot. [all] Sincere apologies for that, just jumping in all uncouth-like. I'd love to be able to set one right now, but mind is blank at moment. Will set one when I get back home tonight. Sorry for the delay.
Half-brick gambit
Worth a try. LotUS's go always looked right, so it was just a last gasp thing to try and whisk it out from under the nose.
And for your guessing pleasure...
...we have ANIMAL, VEGETABLE & MINERAL (at least arguably; ABSTRACT could probably be applied as well but I wouldn't want to be silly about this. ;) )
Is this something made by humans?
Is it a building?
Darren - Yes; Chalky - No.
[Chalky] At least not in the conventional sense of 'a building'.
McDonalds Happy Meal?
Although, Arguably niether animal or vegetable, the mineral part would be the box.
Is it related to art?
Does it perform a practical function?
Is it associated with a particular part of the world?
Did it exist prior to 1900?
Is there only ONE of this?
Is it edible?
Is it a household item?
Is it a lead-weighted wooden cosh with a leather grip?
Is it something we would like to own?
Does this include packaging?
Does it emit noise?
LotUS helloo... ?
Would I be allowed to take it on a aeroplane?
Sorry for the long delay - didn't get a chance to check in at lunchtime
Here we go: Huxley - No; Raak - No; Bob the Dog - Not really; Inkspot - Yes; Boolbar - Yes; Chalky - Yes; rab - No (but then some of its constituent parts are); Martha - No; Raak - No; Ibid - You'd probably be fairly pleased if you did own it; Ibid - No (simple answer); Kayl - I'd say it can be quite a noisy thing; Bob - Hello *waves*; Ibid - No.
Phew.
Hmmm, let's try again, shall we -
Huxley - No;
Raak - No;
Bob the Dog - Not really;
Inkspot - Yes;
Boolbar - Yes;
Chalky - Yes;
rab - No(but then some of its constituent parts are);
Martha - No;
Raak - No;
Ibid - You'd probably be fairly pleased if you did own it;
Ibid - No(simple answer);
Kayl - I'd say it can be quite a noisy thing;
Bob - Hello *waves*;
Ibid - No.
Is it one of the seven wonders of the world?
Is it an island?
Does it have moving parts?
rab - No; Raak - No; Ibid - Yes
Is it in Europe?
Don't see how it could have existed pre-1900 and still have edible parts...
Tuj - No
[Tuj] But that's going on the strict interpretation of your phrasing. The fairest answer is 'It was'.
Is it large, compared to a telephone box?
Is it a coach and horses?
Is it the Last Supper?
Is it a collection of items given a single name?
Something akin to the Elgin Marbles
Is it owned by a country or an individual?
Is it safe?
rab - Definitely; Raak - No and No; Inkspot - In a way it is; Inkspot - Not really; Martha - Umm
[Martha] There's no easy way to answer that with a 'yes' or 'no' without being completely misleadng. I would have to answer, in fairness, though, "Probably not by today's general standards".
Is it a geographical feature?
Is it assocoiated with sport?
Is it a geographical region?
Raak - Probably not in the sense you're thinking but it could be said to be; Inkspot - No; rab - Yes (but same disclaimer as for Raak)
Does it exist still today?
Is it used to produce something useful?
Is it New York?
Is it das heilige röische Reich der deutsche Nation?
Um, römishce.
Oh bollocks you know what I mean.
Anything to to with transport?
Anything from a bridge, a car, a plane, trains or Aladins first magic carpet
Is it London Bridge?
Is it The Head of Steam?
rab - No; Boolbar - No; Raak - No; rab - No; Inkspot - No; Chalky - No; Raak - No
Rab is the closest so far. Inkspot was but he seems to have strayed off the course...
Is it an ocean?
Was it destroyed by a natural disater?
Is it in England?
Is it the Industrial Revolution?
To recap: Made by humans.
Not a building.
Not a McDonald's Happy Meal.
Not related to art.
Doesn't really perform a practical function.
Associated with a particular part of the world.
Existed prior to 1900.
Only one.
Some of its constituent parts are edible.
Not a household item.
Not a lead-weighted cosh with a leather grip.
Something we would probably be fairly pleased to own.
Doesn't include packaging (simple answer).
Can be quite noisy.
Wouldn't be allowed to take it on an aeroplane.
Not one of the seven wonders of the world.
Not an island.
Has moving parts.
Not in Europe.
Large (compared to a telephone box).
Not a coach and horses.
Not the Last Supper.
In a way a collection of items given a single name.
Not really owned by a country or an individual.
Probably not safe by today's general standards.
Could be said to be a geographical feature.
Not associated with sport.
Could be said to be a geographical region.
No longer in existence.
Not used to produce something useful.
Not New York.
Not rab's bollocks.
Nothing to do with transport.
Not London Bridge.
Not The Head of Steam.
Is it some sort of realm? The Roman Empire?
[Kayl] Apparantly it was in Europe.
Is it anything to do with summat up in space?
As 'rab's bollocks' [see Kayl summary] was the closest so far - can we have a translation?
oops - can't be space age - existed before 1900 - doh!
Is it a city, town, or other habitation?
USSR?
[rab]ah, true, my mistake
Bob - No; Inkspot - No; Boolbar - No; Kayl - No; rab - Yes followed by No; Chalky - No but retraction noted; Raak - No, Chalky - No
Is it specifically an empire? If so, is it the British Empire?
Was it more than 1000 years ago?
The Civilised World?
Is it larger than St. Paul's Cathedral?
Was it larger than Derbyshire?
Pre-1974 counties, etc.
Did it cover all or part of what is now considered the British Isles (ie UK + Ireland and various bits that no-one else wants)?
Rutland?
rab - Yes! but No; Inkspot - No; Kayl - Yes; Raak - Yes; Ibid - Yes; rab - No; Chalky - No
The British Empire?
Oops, didn't read the previous answers properly.
The Roman Empire?
The Holy Roman Empire?
Is it the Ottoman Empire ?
Or a test match Cricket Empire?
Was it southern european?
Did its influence extend beyond Euope?
Raak - No (to all three); Inkspot - Yes and Yes... but; BtD - YES!!!
And the fireworks fly for Bob the Dog!!! A tewnty-one scimitar salute to be given in Constantinople in your honour sir! And I cede the chair to you...

Oooh how nice!
Thank you LotUS - especially the 'tewnty-one scimitar salute'. Hmm now I'll have to think about this for a while...
Ok - that didn't take long. This one is Abstract/Animal.
Is it found in a children's story?
Is it a "nightmare"?
Has it appeared in a film?
Good one Lotus, any appearance of knowing what I was doing was purely coincidence;)
Is it Zaphod Beeblebrox?
Is it a unicorn?
Would it be possible to buy one?
Is it green
As in bug-eyed alien.
Is it mythological?
Is it connected to music?
Did it exist pre-1500?
Boolbar - yes.
Software - no.
Inkspot - 1)yes 2)no.
Raak - no.
Lib - the simple answer is yes.
Ibid - no.
LotUS - no.
Chalky - no.
Kayl - no.
The Cat In The Hat?
Has it appeared in a Disney film?
Is it a bear?
Does it share a name with an underground station?
Would I come across it in a Harry Potter novel?
Some sort of fantasy? (eg LOTR etc)
Does it feature in...
Is it (in theory) smaller than normal human size?
Boolbar - no.
Ibid - 1) no 2) no 3) no.
Boolbar - no.
rab - 1) yes, but not in the sense you are thinking. 2) It does not feature in LOTR.
Riff - arguable, but most people would say yes to this.
Was the film made before the year 2000?
Was it one of the main characters of the film?
Is it extra-terrestrial? (And if so, is it ET?)
Is it a computer generated creature?
Inkspot - 1) I think so. 2) yes.
rab - no. Chalky - no.
Was it a live-action film?
...a blind alley
Riff - There have been a few films, at least one has been live action, but this abstract/animal doodah is not usually associated with movies.
Was the story written by a British author?
Timmy?
The Famous Five; Julian, Dick, Anne, George and Timmy, the terrifying dog ever, I lose count of the number of hardened criminals who yelled "...and keep that dog away from me!"
Snowy (Tintin's dog)?
Is it a mammal?
Inkspot - 1) no. 2) no
Raak - No. But warm.
Boolbar - "Yes".
Is it more human [as opposed to an animal]?
unless I've missed something - have we established that this is an animal?
Tintin?
Snow White? Toto?
I can't help but think of that pr0nographic Tintin comic strip now..
er... Lassie?
Asterix? or Obelix?
?
Old Yeller?
[Chalky] Well, it's arguably smaller than normal human size...
Chalky - yes.
Raak - no.
snorgle - 1) no 2) no.. (What this about Tintin!?) Riff - no.
Tina - Sorry - don't know Old Yeller.
Riff - That is because it is a diminutive human. Have I missed anyone?
Oh yes, Wol - 2)no. 1) - YES!!!
We have a winner! Well done all concerned! Again, Inkspot asked a lot of the right questions, Raak got searingly close with the Snowy guess. Asterx the Gaul it was, Wol, you have the chair!
Oooh - I think that was my first contribution to that game, so apologies and thanks to all of you who did the hard work. Standing on the shoulders of giants, etc.
OK - let's make this one swift - ANIMAL/MINERAL
It is sentient?
A pair of hobnailed leather boots?
Is it a robot/cyborg?
Is it edible?
Is it bigger than a microwave oven?
Kim - no; Raak - so close! ;-); Boolbar - no; Btd - no; Soft - no.
Steel-capped boots? Some kind of footwear?
[rab] sorry - don't be misled (I wasn't trying to misle, anyway). Raak wasn't that close.
Any form of clothing?
I'll take that as a no to both then.
[rab] Yes - it's a no-no.
It's not those leather-lined steel manacles again, is it?
[Wol] What about rab's last question (clothing)?
Is the animal content (mostly) leather?
A leather belt with studs?
Does is have a zip?
[Bob - that was a simulpost in case it looked as though I was leaping on your idea!]
Sorry - not with it this morning. No, it's not clothing (except in an extremely tangential sense which I won't tease you with). Raak - no; Btd - yes; Chalky - no (but close, oddly); Ink - no.
A bridle?
...or some sort of horsey harness stuff?
Is the mineral content metal?
Does it have fastenings?
Is it worn by an animal?
Could you buy it in M&S?
Just off to buy my prawn sandwiches.
Bondage gear?
Stirrups?
may as well keep guessing
Dog Collar?
As worn by a dog, not a vicar. (Although in some cases I'm sure it may well be . . .)
Let's cut to the quick - Boolbar: YES! I'm dead impressed by the speed of homing in on that (only 3 substantive contributions from me). So it's over to:
  • Boolbar -
  • Yikes!
    OK so let's go for . . . . . ANIMAL
    Kate Bush?
    [BtD] No. I thought that might be too predictable. :o)
    2 legs?
    Well done Boolbar (bit of a geezer) :-). I'm determined to get the answer one day soon. It keeps happening just as I'm on the verge of nailing it - but get called away for something trivial, like earning a living.
    Is it native to one particular continent?
    whereas migratory birds are incontinent.
    [Chalky] No. But keep guessing. This might be your lucky day.
    [Inkspot] It originated from one continent.
    Extant?
    Mankind?
    Would that continent be Australia?
    Furry?
    A hamster?
    Insect?
    Even a bee can cross continents
    [rab] Technically, no. Physically yes.
    [Raak] No.
    [Kayl] No.
    [Chalky] No.
    [BtD] No.
    [Inkspot] No.
    Is it a single instance of a deceased thing?
    [rab] Yes.
    By heck! It can be difficult deciding what the answers should be sometimes. But nice to see how people can go along the wrong tangent.
    A fossil?
    [Chalky] No.

    I'm off home now. I might be able to check in later, otherwise it will be 09:00 GMT tomorrow before I'm back.

    Actually - fossils would be mineral. Is it an animal product?
    The Iceman?
    I don't think so, since that would have two legs... so...
    Is it on show at a museum (or similar institution) somewhere?
    Was it a mammal?
    Was it a horse? If so, was it 'Seabiscuit'
    Since there is a film about that one out...
    Did it die within the last 50 years?
    Is it the proverbial dead do-do?
    [Chalky] I wouldn't call it an animal product no.
    [rab] (a) No. (b) A copy might be but I don't know to be sure.
    [Ibid] (a) Yes. (b) No.
    [Inkspot] It did cease to 'exist' in the last 50 years but I guess it is also still alive. (Is this a clue?)
    [Tuj] No.
    Is the species particular/associated to one continent?
    As in kangeroos - Australia
    Penguin - Antartica
    I know its a blind alley, but I'm a bit lost at the moment.
    Is it a named animal?
    ie;Shep the dog / Shergar
    Is it a dead human?
    In which case that narrows it down to mere 7,098,764,098,76410 :o)
    Elvis?
    Dead but still alive?
    Jake the Peg?
    Is it part of an animal?
    Is it smallpox?
    A good nights sleep, a disease that was eradicated but still alive in labs, are there any others?
    Hmmm, perhaps I better fill in a few gaps.
    [Inkspot 1] 'It' is associated with one country - but didn't always stay there. 'It' might be there now, or spread around more than one country - I don't know 'its' exact whereabouts at this moment.
    [Inkspot 2] 'It' has a name and I'd be surprised if anyone here had not heard of 'it'.
    [BtD 1] No.
    [BtD 2] No.
    [Raak] No. But at least someone is starting to think around the "not 2 legs" bit.
    [Chalky] No.
    [Inkspot 3] No.

    I think it is the existence thing that may cause confusion (it confuses me). 'It' no longer exists in a similar way to the last MC pilg not existing any more.

    Is it a team or group of people?
    Is it Monty Python?
    (by which I mean the Monty Python crew, not the nonexistent person of Monty Python him/her/itself)
    [Raak 1] YES! [Raak 2] No.
    A political connection?
    Ok, it's Monty Python.
    Have I won?
    Sorry, misreading on my part...
    Is it a sporting team?
    If so, I've absolutely no chance of gettting it.
    Is it the Welsh?
    Btd - no.
    Oh, er, they still exist.
    Anything to do with music?
    [Chalky] Political? None that I know of
    [Raak] Sporting? No.
    [BtD] Music? YES!
    Bum, simulpost! Blaah!
    The Beatles?
    Assuming it's not the Beatles, is it European?
    Rock music?
    If Raak is wrong we will need something to go on. I want Chalky to win this one...(I was going to say "I'm rooting for Chalky" but that didn't sound quite right).
    [Raak] No. [Darren] Yes. [BtD] I wouldn't say so, more "Pop". I'm not sure why I picked them, except they are well known and they popped into my head first.
    Can I have a 'p' please?
    I didn't make that clear. They are definitely pop, with a capital 'P'.
    Abba?
    Ooooh Bob!
    British?
    sorry to have 2 goes - I'm a bit busy this morning, so have to make the most of being on site.
    Does it begin with a 'P'? [Was that a clue?]
    now I'm being REALLY pushy. It was the rooting what did it.
    Rooting and tooting
    [Chalky] Super trooper! Abba it is! Here, have a chair....
    Excellent Boolbar.
    Yeaaa for Chalky!
    *ANIMAL, VEGETABLE, MINERAL & ABSTRACT*
    Many thanks for the support, Bob - I shall wear it with pride.
    Is it The Restaurant at the End of the Universe?
    What! All 4?
    Is the animal aspect human?
    Boolbar - No. Raak - YES
    [Boolbar] The Abstract element should really be bracketted - I thought it might offer a clue - and judging by your first guess, which ain't 'alf bad, I did the right thing.
    Is the human aspect, one person?
    Is it an event?
    Teset the water, dipping in my little toe!
    Is the abstract aspect due to its being a collection, assemblage, group, etc.?
    Is it 'Australia'?
    Is it a product of the entertainment industry?
    Boolbar - No. Inkspot - Yes. Raak - mostly Yes. Bob - No. Darren - Yes.
    Is it for charity?
    Does it involve eating?
    Woodstock?
    Is it a performance?
    Is it a musical performance?
    Backtracking slightly.
    Chealsea flower show?
    Ibid - Don't think so. Boolbar - it might do. Kayl - No. Darren - YES. Kayl - music comes into it, yes. Softers - No :-)
    Is it a pantomime?
    Is it an outdoor performance?
    Boolbar - It isn't regarded as such. Inkspot - No.
    Funnily enough, I had considered Dracula - The Vampire Strikes Back! as a possible [and very topical] object for guessing.
    Has this performance happened already this year?
    Raak - Yes.
    Will it happen again this year?
    Does it happen on television?
    Was it held in the Royal Albert Hall?
    Is it taking place in London?
    The Eurobore Song Contest?
    Raak - (1) Yes (2) Occasionally. Inkspot - No. Bobthedog - Yes. Softers - No.
    Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?
    Does it have anything to do with Andrew Lloyd Weber?
    Is it a musical?
    Boolbar - good question but No. Kayl - bit late but Yes. Bob the dog - Of all the musicals in all the West End - ya had to go an' pick the RIGHT ONE!
    Well guessed Sir! [with admirable back-up from Boolbar, Raak and Darren]. As I'm not around much until Monday night - I'm rather pleased that one went so quickly. The CHAIR is yours ....
    Bah humbug. My time will come!
    This I did not expect - thank you Chalky - were you rooting too?! Kayl - good luck! OK - ABSRACT.
    Fermat's Last Theorem?
    Is an action?
    It is a concept?
    [BtD] Ta. :)
    Raak - no.
    Inkspot - no.
    Kayl - in a way - but misleading to say yes.
    Standard question. Is it found *solely* on earth?
    Is it in any way scientific?
    Is it a verbal expression?
    Is it possible to make one using only common household items?
    Is it religious in nature?
    Is it art?
    "Ah! The little grey cells..." Hercule Poirot
    Dr Q - strictly speaking yes.
    Software - not generally considered to be.
    Inkspot - not in the usual sense.
    Raak - yes.
    Riff - no.
    Kim - no.
    A brainwave?
    Is it a mistake of some kind?
    The "yes" answer to Raak's question seems to make it a material object, yet it cannot be, being Abstract. Therefore . . .
    Is it a term to describe a collection of objects?
    Does it involve words?
    Dujon - lovely, but no.
    Rosie - no.
    Inkspot - no.
    Raak - no.
    Life?
    Does it involve sounds?
    Riff - no.
    Raak - It can be expressed in sound.
    [Rosie] I have chosen something that is abstract but can be represented in a physical, tangible way using a range of media, many of which are commonly found around the average house.
    Raak - Your question 'does it involve words' was close - perhaps rephrase it.
    Does it involve waves?
    Does it involve writing?
    Is it a single abstract thing, or a group of... abstract things?
    It's not 'A badly phrased question', is it?
    Could it be considered a kind of message?
    A song?
    A painting?
    Kayl - no.
    Darren - it does.
    Tuj - not a y/n question - but I'm thinking of a single abstract thing.
    Breadmaster - not on its own.
    Rosie - no.
    snorgle - no.
    Does it require any electrical equipment to occur?
    Calligraphy?
    Does it have to do with musical notation?
    Is it a kitchen drama?
    Ibid - no.
    Raak - no.
    Raak - no.
    Inkspot - no.
    Raak is getting warmer.
    Can it be written down?
    Does it come in different types?
    Can be expressed in a variety of physical ways, including sound; involves writing but not calligraphy, words or musical notation; is not on its own a message; no batteries required. Thinkthinkthink...
    Is it an emotion?
    or an idea?
    Does it normally create a positive response?
    It's not actually 'music' is it?
    ...but then that would through the musical notation question out. Hmmm...
    Is it musical ability?
    Sorry for jumping in again like this.
    Kayl - 1) YES, 2) YES.
    Raak - 1) It does involve writing but it is not calligraphy (I think this is slightly different from your interpretation of my answer - 'calligraphy' is not the answer, however, this thing can be expressed using calligraphy. 'Words' is a little more complex - it is involved in words but is not a word if you see what I mean...
    Raak - 2) no.
    Riff - not really.
    Inkspot - not positive or negative.
    LotUS - 1) no. 2) no.(Keep jumping in!)
    The Koran?
    Is it the alphabet?
    Or if not the alphabet itself, is it a particular letter?
    [Raak] It's not religious.
    Er, since you've said there's more than one type, maybe I should specify our alphabet, as distinct from, say, the Chinese one.
    A word?
    Raak - no.
    Riff - 1) no. 2) yes!
    Raak - no.
    B?
    Riff - no.
    *sigh*
    Well, I don't want to be a bastard by making 25 more guesses in a row, so I'll just guess "Q", and then I'm going to bed...
    Riff - no.
    Bearing in mind that everyone should now have an equal chance - from now on I should ration guesses to one at a time - no multiple guesses (e.g. Is it A, C, D, E?) and no posting twice without allowing another player to have a turn. And I'll take first answers only. There is a clue in my first posting of this game...
    I'll chose the last letter of my third sons name 'M'
    T?
    A?
    O?
    K?
    (B t D) Everyone should observe these conventions anyway.
    F?
    Presumably the musical connection means it is a letter from A to G...
    H?
    Recall that the Germans extend the musical alphabet for some superstitious reason that escapes me for the moment.
    Pfff. C?
    Er... Raak's question "Does it have to do with musical notation?" was answered "No."
    X
    In which case I retract the H (so don't answer on that one) and invoke the mathematically unknown gambit.
    T?
    I'm guessing T because you spelt abstract as "ABSRACT" in your first posting..
    Sorry snorgle you got the right clue but Riff has already tried the letter 'T' - the RIGHT ANSWER! Congratulations Riff the chair is yours...
    Joy! [Bob]Thank you, sir -- good game!
    Okay: Abstract, but with an arguable Mineral connection.
    The Midas Touch?
    Curses, if it wasn't for you pesky kids.. :) I hadn't noticed Riff's guess actually..
    I post like the ninja!
    [snorgle] Nope.
    Is the mineral water?
    And I don't mean Mineral Water.
    [Rosie] No.
    The Diamond Sutra?
    Is it a human concept?
    [Raak] No.
    [Software] Er... yes... although I may be interpreting that question differently than you intended it. A bit vague.
    Is it the planet Tatooine?
    [Bob] No.
    Is it this game?
    I was pondering whether this game would be counted as Mineral or Abstract only the other day.
    Is it related to a specific country?
    Would it apply to smething humans do in everyday life?
    Is it a title of a film?
    The Rock of Ages?
    [Boolbar] No.
    [Snorgle] It could be, but isn't generally.
    [Software] Yes.
    [Inkspot] Sort of, but only coincidentally.
    [Raak] No.
    Is it something to do with computers?
    Is it connected to travel?
    Taking coals to Newcastle?
    Does it involve communication?
    (Boolbar) This game itself must be Abstract, possibly with Mineral connections. No pun intended.
    Is it something people generally will pay for ?
    thought i would add my rare tuppence worth over here.
    [Boolbar] Yes.
    [Inkspot] Not inherently.
    [Raak] What?
    [Rosie] Yes.
    [st d] No.
    is it Pi?
    Is in an email?
    [Riff] I guess that's a no. (To take coals to Newcastle, erstwhile centre of the former British coalmining industry, is like selling refridgerators to Eskimos.)
    Is it something that people do?
    Is it an internet chatroom?
    Selling sand to Arabia
    Software?
    [Bob] No.
    [rab] No.
    [Raak] Ah, I see. 'No' is correct.
    [Raak] Oog. Nnno... and then again, yes. Put it this way: it's a noun that's frequently verbed. That's probably a real giveaway, right there.
    [Bigsmith] No. [Software] Well, no, but some might argue.
    Does it need electricity to operate?
    Is it a browser?
    [Bob] Yes.
    [Inkspot] No.
    By 'computer' do we mean a traditional desktop device, in the main? If not, is it an SMS text?
    A mobile phone ring tone?
    [rab] Yes we do.
    [Raak] No.
    Is it Google?
    Is it websurfing?
    Bing bing bing!
    Google it is! Kayl takes the win!
    Oh, and here's a line:

    - where are you?
    Congrats! - Btd.
    kayl
    I think he's hiding.. Is that him?
    Right here
    Sorry, temperamental computer here. I'm afraid the noun/verb did rather give it away. Ok new one: Mineral/Vegetable is probably the best way of describing it.
    Is it edible?
    Is the vegetable part wood?
    Is it smaller than an average sized collie dog?
    A salted peanut?
    Is it hand made?
    Is it a diamond-studded carrot?
    you never know..
    ...or anything to do with Belgium?
    BNob? Argh!
    Btd - Heh heh heh!
    [Btd]YES. Damn, too easy. [Boolbar] No. [Chalky] Size doesn't really come into it. [Raak] No. [Inkspot] To a certain extent, but I wouldn't follow that fish. [snorgle] No, but what a fantastic idea. [Bnob] I first came across it in Belgium as it happens, but no, it's not essentially Belgian.
    Can you buy it in a supermarket?
    Is it something that can be drunk?
    [Schalky] Yes.
    [Boolbar] Yes.
    Is it alcoholic?
    Is it some sort of flavoured mineral water?
    Is the mineral part the glass container of the liquid?
    Wine?
    [rab]No.
    [Raak]No.
    [Boolbar]No.
    [Chaskly]No.
    Is it a 'fast' food?
    Or a soup?
    Is it sold in cans?
    [BtD]1. It can be served pretty fast.
    2.No.
    [Inkspot]It can be.
    Is it seafood?
    Coca-Cola? [or pepsi Cola]
    Is water the mineral part?
    I'd opt for Whole Earth Organic Cola with real cola nut extract. Is it that?
    Oh my goodness, I sound like a hippy. Man.
    Is it Bed Bull?
    [Boolbar]No.
    [UnChalk]No.
    [Raak]No.
    [Bob]No, sounds lovely though.
    [Inkspot] No.
    Although it can be drunk, is it generally regarded as a drink?
    Tonic Water?
    Is it Goldshlager?
    You know, that cinnamon spirit with gold flecks. Is that even healthy, imbibing a heavy metal?
    Is it served hot?
    Does it contain tomato?
    Is it fizzy?
    [rab]Yes, but I'd continue along this line of questioning if I were you.
    [Pchalky] No. [snorgle]Sounds lovely, but no. [Inkspot]It can be. [Breadmaster]No.
    Woop, sorry.
    [Boolbar] No.

    I really can't get the hang of these < br > breaks.

    Is it Norfolk Punch?
    No.
    Is it a dip to accompany food?
    Not conventionally.
    Is it normally served in a bottle?
    Is it savoury?
    [Ibid]Yes.
    [Shorty]No.
    Is it medicinal?
    Soya sauce?
    Does it contain cheese?
    Is is made from a particular fruit or vegetable?
    [Bob] I can never decide whether to put Bob or BtD, no. [Raak]No. [Boolbar]I can't give you that. [Inkspot] Yes.
    [Boolbar] Yes that was a hint.
    Does it contain lemons?
    Is it milk?
    Kayl] Put 'Bob'. I sometimes use Btd (never BtD). Bob's nice, I like 'Bob'.
    [i]Egg Nog?[/i]
    D'oh. Stupid chat-board meta-tags. Egg Nog.
    Is it milkshake?
    smoothie?
    Is it a fondue?
    Moving off at a tangent and trying to tie up in my mind, Boolbar - Is the mineral part the glass container of the liquid? (no), and Ibid - Is it normally served in a bottle?(yes)
    soya milk?
    Riff - if you put your answer in the bit that says Apropos you don't need tags - its automatically italicised.
    Is it sweet?
    [Inkspot] Maybe it contains salt.
    If this thing were milk or a product thereof, would that make it animal? And if so, eeeeoooo!
    Coconut milk?
    [Raak]No.
    [Bob]Yes, but as a characteristic of the final answer.
    [Riff]No.[Zoo Keep]No on both counts.
    [Inkspot]No.
    [snorgle]No.
    [Breadmaster]No.
    [Talky]No.
    Is it a milk derivative, like yoghurt?
    In a sense.
    Lassi?
    Sour cream?
    I have to confess - all this talk of milk and milk derivatives is confusling me, knowing that this is a 'Vegetable/Mineral' thing.
    Is it Danone Actimel Yogurt Drink?
    or similar done by Yakult healthy bacteria drink.
    Is it a product for people who can't have (or don't want) dairy products?
    Ahh... Soy Milk.
    [Raak]No.
    [Khalcy]No. The mineral refers to the minerals you find in milk, like Calcium.
    [Inkspot]No.
    [Boolbar]No.[Riff]No.

    You're following the wrong fish I should mention.

    Irn Bru?
    Made from girrders!
    Mineral water?
    Oooh!
    A cup of tea?
    Coffee?
    A frappucino?
    Or perhaps a nice hot mug of melted Cheddar?
    Cafe Latte extra foam?
    Danone Activ?
    It is, in fact, Herbie, a plate of steak and chips...
    Horlicks?
    Yumma!
    Is it purchased in liquid form? I'm thinking powdered milk?
    I have to say, this is really confusing me...
    Hot chocolate?
    me too rab - I suppose the next batch of replies might help. Kayl?
    Is it a hot chocoalte malt drink?
    Is it normally consumed from the recepticle it has been bought in?
    I've been trying to join together some of the yes answers with the maybes but to no avail put together they have completley thrown me; is a milk derivitive like yogurt(in a sense), that is a drink, can be served hot, normally served in a bottle, milk is a characteristic of the final answer, can be sold in cans.
    Is it a sauce?
    Stone soup?
    Instant coffee?
    which in my opinion is evil.
    Is it made from a particular fruit?
    Going back a couple of questions as I didn't chase up the 'yes' made from a particular fruit or vegetable.
    Lovells milky lunch bar?
    Cheesey Peas?
    Would it be served in a café?
    Oh dear. Having returned after 3 hours, I was rather hoping this one would be wrapped up by now. It is rather reminiscent of the PantsMC game - y'know the sort of thing - no replies for aeons; conflicting clues, etc etc. Some people [no names] used to get a bit tetchy. Great fun.
    [snorgle]No.
    [Bob]2(No)
    [Chalkos]No
    [Riff]no
    [Angus]No
    [Zoo Keep]No
    [Bob]No
    [rab]Usually liquid, extreme examples can be solid (clue!)
    [Chucky]No.
    [Inkspot]No.
    [Inkspot]It isn't normally consumed.
    [Boolbar]No
    [Raak]No
    [Lib]No
    [Inkspot]No, vegetable: grass.
    [Dixy]No.
    [Boolbar]No
    [Chalky] Not if you're lucky. Sorry about this, I've tried to give more clues.
    Is it a cleaning product?
    Is it some sort of plant food?
    [Boolbar]No.
    [rab]No.

    Ok, you're veering off in the wrong direction here guys. Stick with types of milk.

    Does it contain milk from a cow?
    [Raak]Any milk is possible, but cow milk is how you've most likely come across it.
    Is it mixed with someting else before being a drink?
    Definitly a daft question when it is not consumed but is a drink.
    Is it for human rather than animals to drink but not consume?
    Chalky] ...and while I'm at it...!! who's getting tetchy?
    sap?
    Does it contain caffeine?
    [Inkspot]No.
    [Inkspot]Yes. Sorry, I see the confusion. It is a drink, a form of milk, I'm just saying you wouldn't want to drink it.
    [Chalky]No.
    [Raak]No.
    To clarify the clarification: it is a drink in the measure that it is drinkable.
    It's not milk of magnesia is it?
    I mean, it's a laxative, so you wouldn't want to drink it...
    Ibid - Medicinal was eliminated
    [Ibid]No, form of cow milk that you wouldn't want to drink.
    Is it beestings?
    Raak]The sting of bees? No.
    Ah, just looked it up. No.
    the cud? [as in ...chewing the]
    Milk that has gone off?
    [Chalky]No.
    [Boolbar] YES! YES! YES!
    Well done Boolbar, that was quite painful. I was actually thinking of Sour Milk. Have a line:
    Hmmmm
    You see, I would have answered no to this question.
    Sorry about that, I guess you have to set a definition of 'drink'.
    Beestings
    [Kayl] Beestings is the watery milk that is first produced after a cow has had a calf, a fact which I only know because it was the first or last entry in one of the pages of Chambers Dictionary (Mid-Century Edition, 1953) in our house when I was growing up, and therefore was repeated in the header of the page.
    Hmmmm
    Not that I was desperate to win that particular round because I have been in the chair quite recently - but my guess of 'Sour Cream' received an unequivocal thumbs down with nary a hint that I might be on the right lines. But I'm not bitter :-) We had 'milk' in a Pants game [sorry to keep banging on about Pantics] and it was definitely an ANIMAL. The bacteria that cause it to go 'off' are arguably animal aswell.
    Clarse-ification
    I was wondering whether the product of an animal should be defined as animal, and I decided no on the grounds that anything man-made would therefore by extension also be animal.
    digging in
    Butter? Lamb Chop? Surely anything 'man-made' should be classified by its material composition?
    Well yes
    Absolutely - hence why it would be inconsistent to describe milk as animal because it's made of minerals but produced by a cow, but a CD mineral cos it's made of plastic and produced by a human.
    milking it
    Now your tending towards syllogism :-) We're arguing on two fronts here - firstly 'What is milk'? which we disagree on; secondly 'anything man-made should be classified by its material composition' which we agree on. I don't see the logical step from one to the other. Perhaps I'm a bit tired.
    it's brown and sounds like a bell
    [Chalky] If milk, an animal by-product, is 'animal', what about dung? By your argument it's 'animal', but surely it's 'vegetable', since that's what the cow ate. Or possibly 'mineral', if you figure it's been broken down that far.
    talking of turds
    Yes, I hear [see] what you're saying, Riff. We had an extensive discussion when this game began, much along the lines of this little spat, ie. how far should we break things down. I can't remember whether it was on the first page of this game or in the Banter Game and I can't be arsed to search back 'cause it's way past my bedtime. But just as a parting shot, and because I'm feeling mischievous - further to your cowdung theory - would you differentiate between the solid waste products of a meat-eating human and a vegetarian?
    Minutiae
    Bloody Hell! It's hard enough when you are in the seat to attempt to answer questions in a manner which does not mislead without having each move analysed when the game is over.
    Whilst I must admit the discussion has been most entertaining, Kayl, you have my sympathy. Regardless, carry on the discussion - assuming that Boolbar doesn't produce the gavel; as I said 'tis amusing to follow the arguments of logic. ... ;-)
    poo ingredients
    Mainly, I would hope that none of us would choose "the contents of a vegetarian's colon" for a topic. But, yes, I would probably call the vegetarian's waste 'vegetable' and the meat-eater's 'animal and vegetable' (since the meat-eater presumably doesn't live solely on meat... although, another animal -- a cheetah, say...)

    I really shouldn't have brought this up, should I?

    Bringing things up
    [Riff] I hope you're not bringing it up, or you'd be suffering from major digestive malfunction!
    Can we get on with it now, please?
    [Riff] Rotter! "The content of a vegetarian's colon" was exactly the topic I was going to choose if I got into the chair. I would have set it as abstract since its animal, vegetable or mineral content could not be ascertained without removing it from the colon in question.
    I do love sparking linguistic controversy.
    Blimey! I thought that was a question leading towards the correct answer, not the answer itself. OK, I'll try and pick something simple that shouldn't lead to confusion (ha!) and get someone else in the chair. VEGETABLE
    [Kim] I do apologise. Let me offer you, as a replacement, my backup idea: a chocolate-covered billiard ball. No one'll ever guess that.

    Oops!

    Oh, right, the game.
    Is it commonly used as food?
    [Riff] No. And it isn't a chocolate-covered billiard ball either.
    Is it a single item made from wood that I can throw at my pc?
    I'm only doing this because the server has been down all morning....STRESSED!!
    Is it something manufactured?
    Does it have a practical application?
    [Chalky] Spat is not the word I would have used, friendly banter seems more appropriate somehow. Do we agree though that the classification is purely on composition, and method of production doesn't come into it?
    [Inkspot] To answer your Q as a whole. Not likely.
    [Raak] No.
    [rab] By-products could have practical applications.
    Is it A vegetable in its natural state?
    [rab] Agreed - I should have prefaced the word 'spat' with the adjective 'friendly'. It was pure mischief on my part and I really should have remember that such posturing doesn't necessarily transfer well on to the screen. [Material composition - yes, which is why I still think milk should have in part an 'animal' classification :-)]
    Riff's question?
    [Boolbar] The food one.
    Aha - just seen the answer to Riff's question
    [Boolbar] Sorry - now where are my specs?
    [Chalky] Using dictionary.com :
    A plant cultivated for an edible part or the edible part of such a plant - No.
    A member of the vegetable kingdom; a plant - Yes
    Is it a living plant?
    As in an oak tree rather than oak.

    The public library - such an oasis of calm.

    Is it Michael Howard?
    Is it a whole plant?
    Is it a single, particular thing (as opposed to, say, oak trees in general)?
    Ha, nice to see I'm not the only one capable of starting minute pedantic arguments. See, everything is mineral really, and animal and vegetable are just more or less arbitrarily defined subsets of it, aren't they?

    [Kim] Unrelatedly, some friends and I once spent a lunchtime trailing after Michael Howard surreptitiously through Folkestone town centre. Our stalking attempt was foiled when he drove off in a very flash car. Curses!
    [Inkspot] Yes.
    [Kim] Great Guess! But No.
    [Raak] Yes.
    [Breadmaster] Taking your 'Oak Tree' senario. I was thinking of a single thing like "An Oak Tree" as opposed to "All Oak Trees" or "Some Oak Trees", but I would give the chair to any of those three as they would be close enough.
    Is it a tree?
    Is it a maple tree?
    Shame its not a Shrubbery! I want a shrubbery.
    A rosebush?
    [Lib]Don't we all? :)
    [rab] YES!
    [Lib] No.
    [snorgle] No.
    Is it indigenous to the UK? Silver birch?
    Bugger, off for the weekend so probably won't get this one...
    Is it an evergreen?
    [rab] It can be found in the UK but AFAIK isn't a native (except possibly scotland?).
    [Raak] Yes.
    Is it a Christmas Tree?
    [Btd] No. But I suppose it could be used as one.
    Douglas fir?
    Scots Pine?
    *Sings* "Ohhh, aahm a lumberjack and aahm OK, aah sleep all night and aah work all day!"
    Spruce?
    [snorgle,Kim,Raak] - No, to all of you. Strange that is the second Monty Python reference (clue?)
    Holly?
    As in 'Holly Grail' and 'Hollywood Bowl". ... :-)
    the Larch? The larch.
    How to recognise trees from quite far away.
    Cedar?
    The tallest tree in the forest?
    JGJG
    OJVVNBVJKNNJNHVJ
    Well done.
    Goddammit it, Snorgle must have it. Ghfhj's guess was pretty good though.
    Episode 12B. How to recognise different types of trees from quite a long way away. No. 1. The Larch. The Larch. - congrats to snorgle! Take it away . . . . .
    Animal
    the monty python hint gave it away, really..now, let's see..
    Human?
    Warm blooded?
    Is it a living, entity with polymorhing abilities?
    Moving right along to Red Dwarf.
    ...or is it something made from a dead animal?
    Is it dairy?
    To eliminate confusion as early as possible, or at least to try to! :)
    Raak - yes; plump - yep; Inkspot - no and I'll throw in the fact that it doesn't have 4 eyebrows either for free; Inkspot - ugh, no!;ZK - no.
    Is it Michael Howard?
    Male?
    Presently alive?
    Some told me recently that there are currently more people living than have ever lived. Can this be true?
    zk - no; kim - yes
    kim - click here re:population for some info..
    Four legged?
    Spurned!
    Oh sure, ignore my question, go on, I don't care. I hate this game anyway.
    *sniff*
    Are they lsted on celebdaq?would you recommend buying shares in them?
    Is the person known as a politician?
    Carefully phrased to be independent of whether the person is alive or dead.
    British?
    Riff (sorry! it was late!) Yes. Inkspot - yes (and no cheating and getting 2 questions in one!) Breadmaster - nope.
    Are they a 'singer'?
    By which I mean they get money to sing, not that they necessarily have any talent...
    An entertainer, in the broadest sense?
    i.e. including Frank Skinner, Nickel-arse Parsons etc.
    American?
    Is English his (their) first language?
    Is it a member of the British Royal Family?
    European?
    Another spurnee
    What about my last question?
    Osama bin Laden?
    David Blaine?
    Arnie?
    Ibid - no. Rosie - no. BM - no. Kayl - yes. Inkspot - no. Raak - you want to ask it again? Not Bin Laden, no. ZK - nope. barbacoa - nope.
    It's not you, is it?
    barbacoa - no.
    Nice try, though..
    BTW, when a said they're not an entertainer, I meant in the sense of Frank Skinner, Nicholas Parsons ,etc. All round entertainers. That's all.
    A sportsman?
    [snorgle] "Is the person known as a politician?" I don't see any answer to that question, or anyone else asking it. I notice Btd's "European?" has also gone unanswered.
    Is he regularly on television?
    I'd be very happy if it was one of the Knights who say NI but I fear it won't be.
    A movie star?
    Is he Australian?
    Someone in the world of Pop?...and would they cost more than £1.50 a share?
    One question but in two parts ...honest guv ;)
    Raak-I'm not deliberately not answering, you know! Therefore - not a politician, not European, not regularly on tv, not australian, not a popstar and yes, Riff, he is a movie star!
    sorry for ignoring you plump - not four-legged!
    am presuming then - an american movie star?
    Keanu Reeves?
    ooh, yes please!
    Chalky - YES! But ZK- he's canadian, I thought everyone knew that! Honestly, some people..
    It's your go now, Chalky. I saw Matrix Revolutions yesterday. Am sorely disappointed! Action scenes good, characterisation awful, ending complete cop-out. At least I got to look at cute Keanu for long periods though. We actually waited until the end of the credits (through all that outrageously loud dance music) on the off chance something else would happen. I said "That is the suckiest ending ever! It's like the end of The Empire Strikes Back, but without another part to make up for it. It's just never explained." GRR!

    Audience goes wild for Chalky, whoops, cheers, outrageous hand gestures, sausages, etc.


    *coughing*
    *Whilst cheering rapturously* would like to point out the order in which the entries came...I'm sure I knew he was canadian anyway. aren't all the stars canadian? eric mccormack is (I think), so is michael j fox, paul gross, mike meyers....
    Z.K. - it was simulposted, and you were wrong anyway..
    Dan Aykroyd, William Shatner, John Candy...
    * a bit embarrassed*
    I thankyou. That was somewhat akin to a lurker's victory. I haven't been around much this weekend, just popped in to catch up, hazarded a wild guess, and there you go ....
    [snorgs] Yes - I thought Matrix Rev was a pile of cack, but at least I didn't fall asleep during it [which I did during Matrix Reloaded].
    I'll post a new thingy tomorrow, if you don't mind. I HAD lined up a person, but we've just had one, so I'll attempt to think of something sparklingly original to brighten up a Monday morning :-)
    It's Monday morning ....

    ... and time for an * A B S T R A C T * thing
    Is it the gravitational relationship between Leonard Nimoy and Saturn?
    I think I've got it!
    snorgle
    sausages etc??!?
    Is it a human concept
    average opening gambit
    Can it be heard?
    Is it p?
    (Putting the question in the "Stance" because HTML doesn't work in Apropos.)
    Is it a good book to read by Jeffrey Archer?
    Is it found in a book?
    Is it common knowledge?
    [Btd]What is your problem with sausages? Do you want one?
    Might it be commonly considered art?
    Proper sausage
    snorgle] Yes please! I'm sausaholic.
    Is it fictional
    Is it a saying or verbal expression?
    Is it "the absence of Chalky"?
    Sorry to keep you all waiting ...
    Bob - the gravitational guess - No
    Bob - the snorgle guess - No
    Software - Sort of, yes
    rab - No
    Raak - No
    Boolbar - the J A guess - No
    Boolbar - the book guess - Yes, but most things might, wouldn't you say?
    snorgs - indeed, it is common knowledge [but that's not the answer]
    Breadmaster - No
    Bob - the proper sausage guess - No
    Marfa Farker - No
    Inkspot - It can be
    Rosie - No :-)
    Does it have to do with language?
    Is it something to do with the weather ?
    Is it an emotion?
    I really am a top sausage connoisseur. The best I've ever found come from here.
    Bugg@r
    got it wrong again, try this http://www.growingconcern.co.uk/homefarm.html
    Raak - er ... No. It would be very misleading if I replied otherwise
    Boolbar - No, not directly
    Bob - Emotion - No, but it can have an effect on the emotions [Clue #1]
    Bob - Buggary - No
    is it a feeling ?
    Does it have to do with music?
    Is it an action?
    Anything to do with water?
    being a bit negative
    Bob - No
    Riff - No
    Inkspot - Not really ... it could be ... sometimes ... vague, sorry
    Boolbar - No
    Is it an action?
    We're not getting very far with this one, are we?
    BM - no, especially if we don't read the last but one question :-)
    Is is connected with the arts (other than music)
    ?
    Would it have been known about in 1900?
    Is it made of non-abstract things?
    Kim - Not really
    Boolbar - Yes
    Raak - Yes, it is 'made' of abstract AND tangible things
    Is it a scientific theory or principle?
    Inkspot - mmmm ... tricky. I shall say No, but your line of questioning might lead you to the right place.
    Is it 'historically'attributed to one person?
    Is it a religion? (And if so, can I claim Christianity at this juncture)?
    Can it exist/occur where there aren't any people around? Say, on Mars?
    Is it a rule or law?
    back again for a while :-)
    Inkspot - No
    rab - No
    Riff - Yes
    Bob - Sort of, yes.
    Is it anything to do with mathematics?
    Dazed [hello darling :-)] - In a way, yes.
    Is it common sense?
    ...vague I know but I'm thinking...Oh!the pain,the pain! and going by William Hague's campaign, an oft misquoted commodity, which is what you would expect really.
    Pythagoras Theorem
    simulposted curses!!
    Inkspot - that was one of the early questions .. snorgle's I think
    Inkspot - No..not such an obvious mathematical connection
    Is it possible for people to make one?
    Gravity?
    Coming in ... yawn ... rather late.
    tending the night shift
    Raak - I think we've established that it's an 'it'.. therefore, it's a common perception that people can make 'it' - although they may not be aware they are [Clue#2]
    Duj - No
    Sorry, Chalky, missed Btd's question earlier, I must only be slightly awake; I shall now retire.
    Um... Is it something to do with physics?
    I'm completely at sea.
    throwing a lifeboat to Riff
    Riff - No.
    [all] Don't get too fixated on science [or even maths]. There are a whole bunch of questions that haven't been asked yet, which should simplify matters considerably.
    Is it silence?
    *throwing random things into the melting pot of ideas*
    reading back...
    i think I can count my own answer as no! :-) nvm, just me being inattentive...
    Heat?
    A quincunx?
    Good morning :-)
    Is it an effect rather than a cause?
    Good morning Chalky, kettles on.
    Can it be perceived by any of the five senses?
    I'm away for the day from about 10am ....
    .... so if this isn't wrapped up by then .. there will be a 10 hour hiatus ..
    Rosie - No
    Raak - What an interesting guess - it isn't correct but some might believe that the occurrence of such might have some bearing on 'it'.
    Inkspot - It is both a cause and effect :-)
    *coughs*
    Is it one of the seven deadly sins?
    & Rab's question?
    Sorry rab :-) [I'm scurrying around a bit and missed the simulpost] Yes - and to save further questioning - All of them
    Bob - No
    Is it a maze?
    Raak - That's probably a bit too tangible for an 'abstract' :-)
    The choas theory
    I googled quincunx and was pointed to the Law of Error, none the wiser so I'm stepping back as its time for a Kit-Kat.
    Interesting - you answered "no" to the question "Can it be heard?"
    Does it have something to do with the sun?
    Inkspot - No
    rab - Indeed I did. It was a specific question and I would have been misleading you if, at that time, I'd answered yes. However, as 'this' can be perceived by all the senses collectively, I answered yes. I feel it may be more helpful.
    Boolbar - No, not really.
    Sorry - I've got a train to catch
    ... but as I am continually astounded by your collective grey matter, I fully expect the answer to be here when I return this evening. Clue#3 - it has two sides - the one I'm thinking of is the happy/desirable side.
    Is it beauty?
    Is it good luck?
    Is it the future?
    I keep not noticing earlier questions/answers - I do apologise, it doesn't indicate any contempt for fellow questioners/answerers on my part...
    This summarises all that chalky answered before catching the train. I’ve taken out the wild guesses and repeated questions and added the clues at the end.

    This is an * A B S T R A C T * thing.
    It is (sort of) a human concept.
    It can’t be heard.
    Is it found in a book? Yes, but most things might, wouldn't you say?
    It is common knowledge [but that's not the answer].
    It is not commonly considered art.
    It is not fictional.
    It can be a saying or verbal expression.
    Does it have to do with language? er ... No. It would be very misleading if I replied otherwise.
    It is not directly something to do with the weather.
    It is not an emotion.
    It is not a feeling.
    Does it have to do with music? – No.
    Is it an action? - Not really ... it could be ... sometimes ... vague, sorry.
    Nothing to do with water.
    It is "not really" connected with the arts.
    It would have been known about in 1900.
    It is 'made' of abstract AND tangible things.
    Is it a scientific theory or principle? - mmmm ... tricky. I shall say No, but your line of questioning might lead you to the right place.
    It is not 'historically' attributed to one person.
    It is not a religion.
    It can exist/occur where there aren't any people around e.g. Mars.
    Is it a rule or law? - Sort of, yes.
    Is it anything to do with mathematics? - In a way, yes.
    Is it possible for people to make one? - I think we've established that it's an 'it'.. therefore, it's a common perception that people can make 'it' - although they may not be aware they are.
    It is not Gravity.
    It is not Heat.
    A quincunx? - What an interesting guess - it isn't correct but some might believe that the occurrence of such might have some bearing on 'it'.
    Is it an effect rather than a cause? - It is both a cause and effect :-)
    It can be perceived by any of the five senses.
    It is not one of the seven deadly sins.
    It is not a maze.
    It is not the chaos theory.
    Does it have something to do with the sun? - No, not really.
    - Sorry - I've got a train to catch

    [Clue #1] It is not an emotion but it can have an effect on the emotions.
    [Clue#2] It is an 'it'.. therefore, it's a common perception that people can make 'it' - although they may not be aware they are.
    “There are a whole bunch of questions that haven't been asked yet, which should simplify matters considerably”.
    Oops
    [Clue#3] - it has two sides - the one I'm thinking of is the happy/desirable side.
    Is it ambience?
    Is it the act of winning?
    Red Sky at Night?
    From all that, I interperet it as being a natural occurance or event, the quincunx which I interperet from a quick browse as illustrating 'randomness'(is this right), is the scientific/maths a blind alley which leads down to something measurable even on Mars
    Does is have anything to do with the weather?
    it
    Would I be pleased to have/be this?
    Is it 'time'?
    Is it a naturally occuring event?
    I suppose I should ask in case I suppose erroneously
    Even if Boolbar is not right, its a damn clever answer.
    Analysing the analysing ...
    rab - No, but getting closer
    Boolbar - No, not exactly, but excellent guess. Winning could be considered a part of 'it'
    Inkspot - No, but the portent itself has a connection
    Kim - Not directly
    Software - Yes
    Dazed - No
    Inkspot - Yes to 'occurring event' as for 'natural' - I would say more 'yes' than 'no', although the mathematics might prove otherwise [Clue#4]
    Is it good luck?
    Is it coincidence?
    You know what Raak ....?
    ..... that's close enough. The answer was 'serendipity' but as this one has dragged on for a couple of days now, it may be best to leave it that a combination of your two guesses will do nicely. [insert smiley face here] I'm pleased because I was a-rootin' an' a-tootin' for you. So whilst ...
    *the audience whoops and hollers [and exhales a collective sigh of relief] and waves handkerchiefs and garters and all manner of private apparel for that vair vair clever Raak*

    ... I shall prepare myself for the possible questioning of some of my replies :-)

    The next object is MINERAL.
    Stonehenge?
    Congrats Raak, and about bl***y well time!
    Man-made?
    Metallic?
    Inkspot: no. Btd: yes. Software: not usually
    Used domestically?
    Is it made from a combination of materials?
    Does it have a practical function (as opposed to e.g. aesthetic)?
    Is it consumable?
    Is it unique?
    Software: can be, but not primarily; Btd: yes; rab: yes; Chalky: no; Inkspot: no.
    Does it require electrical power to function?
    rab: no
    Could you fit it inside a regular-size fridge?
    Did it exist before the eighteenth century?
    Is it today primarily manufactured on a factory production line?
    Riff: yes. Breadmaster: yes (not a lot of people know that). Inkspot: yes.
    Inkspot: But perhaps not on the scale that those words suggest.
    Is it a tool?
    Is it a musical instrument?
    Chalky: yes. rab: no.
    BTW, I've just realised that it can be VEGETABLE instead of MINERAL.
    A dwelling?
    This tool - is its function for the 'good of man'?
    Software: no. Chalky: isn't that the function of every tool? But no, not specifically.
    Is the mineral, stone?
    Is it a calculating machine of some sort?
    An abacus?
    Is the 'vegetable' sort of this tool made of wood?
    [Raak] Re 'good of man' - I meant the sort of tools that make killing machines - I should have been more precise
    Inkspot: no; Boolbar: YES! snorgle: no; Chalky: yes
    Slide rule?
    A computer?
    Boolbar: no; rab: YES.
    Point to rab. Next!
    Oops, meant to include one of these:
    Coo
    Despite being sorely tempted by an abstract, I did one of those last time so I think it's only fair I plump for a more tangible MINERAL on this occasion. Guess away.
    Is it man- (or woman-) made?
    Is it metallic?
    Could you fit it in the fridge, next to the slide rule?
    Outstep
    Stepped out of the office for a moment to talk to my boss. We were discussing an integral and he suggested a few times that I "take it up the imaginary axis" which, I'm sorry to say, had me in schoolboy-snigger mode.

    [Boolbar] Yes.
    [Chalky] Bits of it are. (Oh, how I hate giving extra information away...).
    [Riff] Probably not.

    Was it created post-1940?
    I'm afraid I don't know.
    Does it contain electronics? (Valves count.)
    Does it have anything to do with the arts?
    Is it unique, being the one and only ever made?
    Is it considered decorative?
    Is it a device used for a specific purpose?
    An atomic bomb?
    I'm in a foul mood!
    Do you own one?
    Mornin'
    [Raak] Yes.
    [Bob] No.
    [Inkspot] No.
    [Dazed5] Not generally.
    [Riff] It certainly has a primary purpose.
    [Dujon] Bang.
    [Boolbar] No.
    Is it a calculating device?
    [Raak] That is not its primary purpose.
    Is it a computer?
    Is it used for communication?
    Does it have a screen for playing games?
    Negativity
    [Bob, Boolbar, Inkspot] No.
    Is it used for transport?
    Was it invented?
    I mean that ships, the wheel are generic but vacuum cleaner, camreras where invented, does it fall in to either category?
    Would one find it inside the home?
    [Boolbar] No.
    [Inkspot] Yes.
    [Chalky] Possibly, but probably not.
    Could it be considered a communication device?
    Does it have wheels?
    Is it a game machine of some sort?
    [Boolbar] No.
    [Breadmaster, Raak] I guess you could try and use this thing in those ways, but as that's not what it's designed for I'll say no.
    Is it usually found in a hospital?
    Was it invented before 1900?
    Is it a photocopier?
    Should every office have one?
    [Boolbar] There are places where it is usually found, but I don't believe a hospital is one of them.
    [Inkspot] I don't know when it was invented but that would be my guess.
    [Chalky] No, but the way my mind works I can't help seeing at least a few similarities.
    [Lib] That's a subjective question to which I would probably answer 'yes', but I expect the more usual answer would be 'no'.

    Hmmm... not sure this spurious extra information would help anyone...

    Is it a camera?
    **** CORRECTION ***
    To Inkspot's last answer, I would guess AFTER 1900. So, Boolbar, no - it's not a camera. Sorry...
    Oh, so shall I go for a facsimile machine then?
    Does it require electricity in order to function?
    Would its primary use be for a particular profession(al).
    ie stethoscope (doctor) V's a spanner (plumber/engineer/mechanic)
    [Boolbar] You can, but I believe we have established that the primary purpose of this thing is not for the act of communication.
    [Chalky] Yes.
    [Inkspot] No.
    Is it a machine for making something?
    even though its primary function is not for communication, can you use it to communicate?
    When in use, is it noisy?
    That is, would it be obviously making a noise if you where (say) 20 feet away.
    [Raak] I'll give a clue here - it is not used to manufacture something from raw materials, but it is a machine that processes something.
    [Lib] Well, you could but I wouldn't sniff round this hole if I were you.
    [Boolbar] No.
    Is it a barcode reader?
    Does it have an industrial application?
    No to both, though Boolbar's notion of processing is closer than than of Ibid's, though I will throw in that this device contains no optics (e.g. lenses etc).
    A punchcard reader?
    A paper shredder?
    A pasta maker?
    printer?
    although I'm sure that you could fit that in the fridge...:S
    is it still in common use today?
    Is it a scientific instrument?
    An iron maiden?
    Oh, wait -- those tend to be noisy.
    A Thermostat?
    An automatic cigarette-rolling machine?
    Has it any connection with photo-processing?
    Sorry for the delay
    [Riff, 1] No
    [Raak] No
    [barbacoa] No
    [Chalky, 1] Yes
    [Inkspot] No
    [Riff, 2] Ouch, no
    [Boolbar] No - but (clue alert) it probably contains one.
    [Breadmaster] No - although it might be adapted to perform this "roll"
    [Chalky, 2] Probably not.
    Would it cost less than ... say £200 to buy?
    Cost
    [Chalky] *googles* It seems so, yes.
    A Laminating machine?
    Does it process 'paper' in some way?
    I ask because we seem to getting fixated on paper processing and for all we know, this machine could be a sausage maker.
    [Boolbar] No, but you're getting warmer.
    [Chalky] No, not paper.
    It is some sort of alarm device?
    Helping hand
    [Raak] No.

    Since I will wish to hand over the chair before leaving a little early this afternoon (probably about 4-5pm) I will give some hints as to what information would be very helpful, viz:

    • where it is most commonly found;
    • what it processes;
    • how it processes it.
    I have a further clue up my sleeve which I will issue at about 3pm if we make no significant progress by then.
    Is it a glue gun?
    Is it a food maker of some sort?
    Not a toaster but more along the lines of a breadmaker.
    Does the application of heat 'mould' something, like glass?
    Does it process a solid item?
    Glue gun - Nah, it can't be that.
    Is it found commonly in an office?
    Just retract breadmaker,as you prevously said probably not found in the home.
    Does it use water in the process?
    Excuse the multi posting.
    A hot water urn?
    Hokey cokey
    [Boolbar] No.
    [Chalky] The heat is part of the processing, not really moulding, and almost certainly not glass.
    [Boolbar] Yes.
    [Inkspot, 2] Not an office.
    [Inkspot, 3] I think not - although a small amount could be useful.
    [Raak] Hence, no.
    Is there a missing answer?
    I keep searching back to find the answers to the food processing question. rab - I know you're probably fairly busy, but can we eliminate food as we have done with paper?
    Is it something an interior decorator, electrician, plumber, or similar trademan would use?
    [Chalky] Its primary function is not food related. However, less conventional uses of this device are limited only by our imagination, or perhaps an arbitrarily chosen numerical factor.
    [Raak] No - or at least, not in order to do interior decorating, electrifying, plumbing or similar trades.
    An iron?
    as in shirts and all that
    [Software] No - but you're not far off...
    A steam engine?
    A car crusher?
    An electric seat warmer?
    A trouser press?
    [Chalky] Nope.
    [Breadmaster] Nein.
    [Raak, 1] Nay.
    [Raak, 2] Hmmm... I was also looking for the manufacturer... should I give it him?
    I see the light!
    It's an orthopedic heated sleeping bag for midgets!
    Oh, and yes, give it to Raak.
    Raak the winner again!
    Only if he can give 101 uses of the said Corby device.
    Giving it to Raak
    Go on. But refrain from over-effusive congratulatory words. I'm not sure Raak's really 'into' public displays of affection.
    Kudos to Raak

    [Chalky] However did you guess? [rab] Thank for those discreet and proper kudos. I shall arrange them artistically on my mantelpiece in a vase of water.

    The next item is MINERAL and ABSTRACT.

    A Jackson Pollack.
    Erm....is it mainly chemical?
    Is it mainly chemical?
    Oops, sorry.
    Is it The Rock of Ages?
    Stab in the dark.
    Does it exist only in the mind?
    Is the mineral metal?
    no question mainly because I'm unlikely to participate in this one.
    I didn't guess - it was plain for all to see. It's only words on a screen.
    [barbacoa] No, and no.
    [Kim] (slight ripple from the audience, but) No.
    [Btd] No.
    [Riff] No.
    Is it description for a collection of items?
    [Inkspot] No.
    Is it fictional rather than an actual place that appears in a work of fiction?
    Is it Mount Doom?
    ...one of these days a questions will have so many riders it will run for several lines!!
    [Inkspot] Yes; YES!!
    Well done Inkspot.
    Thank you Raak.

    Lets see now, it's ABSTRACT and ANIMAL.

    Cerebus?
    Riff: No
    Is it mythological?
    Is it a cartoon?
    Is it abstract solely because it is fictional?
    Has it featured in a disney/pixar movie?
    I say! Well done Inkspot - that must be a record? 6 questions and straight to the answer. Strikes me that you didn't get enough recognition for that, so to make up for it:
    *Audience gasps in amazement, hesitates a bit, then breaks into rapturous applause for Inkspot!*
    Is it an action connected to an animal?
    *shuffles in late and starts handing out placards bearing the words "Congratulations Inkspot!!!!" for people to wave*
    Thank you, both very much, *blushes*
    Kayl [No]
    Lib [No]
    Raak [yes]
    chalky [No]
    Lotus [No]
    Is the 'animal' element a human being?
    a hobbit?
    Is it originally from a book?
    I too was most impressed by Inkspot's apparent use of ESP in the last one.
    Chalky[Yes]
    Zooological Keeper[No]
    Breadmaster[No]
    Is it a 'character' i.e. from a movie or play?
    Zooological Keeper[No]
    Flaubert's parrot?
    Is it Gilgamesh?
    Well, one-third human.
    Is it someone we might have been told about in Childhood - like Jack Frost?
    [Chalky] Wouldn't that be considered mythological?
    Raak [No]
    Breadmaster [No]
    Chalky [Yes]

    [barbacoa]in my mind, if is something is fictional it does not always follow that it 'mythological'.

    Is this a Biblical character?
    The sandman?
    Raak [No]
    Software [No]
    Is this a character in a folk tale?
    Father Christmas?
    Jack Frost is though, isn't he? I don't mind if I'm wrong :)
    The tooth fairy?
    Raak [No]
    Zooological Keeper [No]
    Chalky [No]

    [barbacoa] mythological and fictional is an old chestnut, and I still think there is a difference, even though it may be subjective and open to personal interpretation.

    Summarising...
    The answer is:
    • abstract solely because fictional
    • someone we might have been told about in childhood
    The answer is not:
    • mythological
    • a cartoon
    • in a Disney/Pixar movie
    • a hobbit
    • a character in a movie or play
    • originally in a book
    • in a folk tale
    • in the Bible
    • Gilgamesh, Father Christmas, Flaubert's parrot, the Sandman, or the tooth fairy.
    The bogey man?
    Father Time?
    Is it one person or a group of people?
    Irritating curiosity
    What was the answer to that link you posted?
    Raak [No]
    Boolbar [No]
    Chalky [Yes, It is one person]

    [barbacoa]Weapons of Mass Destruction

    Is this person a nice person to have around?
    Is this person male?
    Boolbar]I would like to say yes, but very little in known about the persons character, as we are only told who they are and what they did...
    Raak]Yes....muffled oohs in the audience
    Mr Nobody?
    The Man in the Moon?
    Is it Solomon Grundy?
    Did this person create something?
    Would we find them in *any* form of literature?
    Is this a character in a nursery rhyme?
    Humpty Dumpty?
    Jack Sprat?
    getting warmer
    Chalky [No]
    Chalky[No]
    Kim [No]
    Boolbar [No]
    Zooological Keeper[No] not directly but will be found in collections to do with the next question
    Raak [Yes]audience brief muffled clapping
    Raak [No]
    Breadmaster [No]
    The cow that jumped o'er the moon?
    Is this a human person?
    Software [No]
    Raak [Yes]
    Little Jack Horner?
    the boy that stuck his finger in the dyke?
    Is it Tom, Tom, the Piper's son?
    Big Clue before bedtime!
    Raak[No]You'll be getting this one aswell if your not careful ;)
    snorgle[No]
    Kin [No]
    Looking for the person in the nursery rhyme about a man, who went somewhere (no animals other animals or people involved) but something happened, to make him never, want to go back ... ever!
    Doctor Foster!
    Take a chair!
    Kim [YES]
    A good win from Kim there coming up on the inside rail. Over to you.
    Thanks, Inkspot, though you must admit, you gave us a lot of help.
    OK...now then...Hmmmm.....Ah!
    This next one is unquestionably MINERAL.
    Is it man-made (oblig.) ?
    Is it made of metal?

    Nice one Kim
    *Audience erupts into raucous cheering for Kim and his perfect recall of Doctor Foster's dubious exploits*

    Would you like to have one?
    [Boolbar] No.
    [Chalky] No.
    [Raak] No, but we may come back to the question of desirability later on.
    Is it a combination of different materials?
    Is it a geographical/physical feature?
    Is it something one might have in one's home?
    [Boolbar] No.
    [Chalky] No.
    [Raak] No.
    Is it connected with the weather?
    Is it the Moon?
    Is there only one of this item?
    Is it a particular object made of a particular substance, rather than the raw substance itself?
    e.g. "diamonds", rather than "carbon".
    [Chalky] No.
    [Raak] No.
    [Boolbar] *Murmur of interest ripples through the audience. Whispers of "interesting question" and "how can he answer that one accurately?".* Yes. Or, possibly, no.
    [Riff] *More murmurs of excitement.*. If you had not supplemented the question, the answer to it would have been "Yes".
    Is it an element?
    [Boolbar] No.
    Advance warning: I will be away from a PC for most of the afternoon and evening. I'll try to answer questions before I leave the office, but otherwise will probably not be able to get back on line between 2.00pm and 9.00pm tonight.
    Is it larger than a telephone box?
    Is it the Kaaba?
    Might it be found underwater?
    Is it found on this planet?
    Is the object made from stone?
    [Chalky] No.
    [Raak] No.
    [Breadmaster] No.
    [Boolbar] Yes.
    [Inkspot] Yes.
    Is it a monument of some sort?
    Is it presently located in only one country?
    The Elgin Marbles?
    The Rosetta Stone?
    Is it *part* of a manmade thing (eg one of the stones in Stonehenge)?
    Bear in mind here that the thing is neither a geographical feature nor manmade...
    The Blarney Stone?
    Going.....going.....
    [Raak] No.
    [Inkspot] I would refer the Hon. gentlemen to my answer to Boolbar's third question earlier today.
    [Boolbar] No.
    [Chalky] No.
    [Breadmaster] No. It is itself, the thing, and what it is, too (A-hehhh-hehhh-hem!)
    Nothing more from me until 9.00pm tonight.
    Boolbar No3
    How does Boolbar's third question
    Is there only one of this item?your reply; Yes. Or, possibly, no
    answer my question
    Is it presently located in only one country
    Is it a fossil?
    The Stone of Destiny? (Also called the Stone of Scone.)
    They may tak oor lives, but they will nivver tak oor friddom!
    [Software] (Apologies for not having spotted your last posting.) No.
    [Inkspot] I must confess I had some misgivings as to the quality of my response to your question. Boolbar's 3rd question was "Is there only one of this item? The strict answer to that question would be "Yes", but, it is alleged, there is at least one copy and there is some controversy as to which, if any, is the "real" one. The English, the Scots and the Irish all believe that they have the "one true stone". Given the rules of the game, I thought that my answer would be allowable. Turning to your question, "Is is presently located in only one country?", I considered that, given the (disputed) existence of at least one (alleged) fake, the same answer could be given. The strict answer to your question would, of course, have been "Yes" on the basis that the real one, to the extent that it even exists, could only be located in one country. I trust you will forgive me.
    [Boolbar, again] No.
    [Raak] YES! The answer is, indeed, the fabled Stone of Scone.
    *Shouts of "Och, Aye!", "Hoots!" and "Nac Mac Feegle!" from the audience.*
    The stone belongs under a Chair, which now passes to Raak, with compliments.
    Aye, 'tis a braw bricht moonlicht nicht the nicht, is it no?

    Ahem. The next object is VEGETABLE.

    Is it a living organism?
    Raak]Congtrats on another superb win
    Kim]The apology should be mine for not appreciating that the answer was the same and for the unintended brusque nature of the posting.
    [Inkspot] No.
    Is it edible?
    Good guess, Raak. I'm determined to get one of these one of these days!
    Is it a cricket bat?
    Is it native to the UK?
    Has it undergone a process of some kind to be in its present form?
    [Inkspot] No offence taken, I promise.
    [Breadmaster] Yes.
    [Inkspot] Therefore, no.
    [Software] Well, either maybe, or no. See the answer to Kim.
    [Kim] Yes.
    Is it associated with a cuisine from a particular country?
    Although it is edible, is it usually thought of as something to eat?
    [Inkspot] Not really.
    [Boolbar] Yes.
    Its not a tin of exploding peas, is it?
    - topical, topical...!
    Baked beans?
    Does it contain fruit?
    [Kim] No. [Software] No. [Boolbar] No.
    Is it a vegetable?
    Was it A vegetable?
    oops
    ignored the warning, sorry
    [Inkspot] No. That is, it is VEGETABLE in terms of the game, but it does not contain anything ordinarily called a vegetable.
    Is it usually consumed in solid form?
    Is it somthing made from several ingredients like a jelly or a cake?
    [Boolbar] Yes.
    [Inkspot] Yes.
    Compote?
    [Software] No.
    Is it usually served hot?
    [Boolbar] No.
    Are the ingredients all mixed together to form one homogenous product?
    Is it a type of cake? cheeky supplementary question,Welsh cake?
    [Kim] No. [Inkspot] No, hence no.
    Is it seen as a seasonal food?
    such as say a salad
    Does it contain chocolate?
    Is it sweet?
    Confiture
    It's Jam. With whole lumps of fruit in it. And my guess would be strawberry.
    Is it trifle?
    [Inkspot] No.
    [Boolbar] Yes, and a ripple of applause from the audience.
    [phahad] Despite the chocolate content, you wouldn't really think of this as being sweet.
    [penelope] Not any sort of jam, marmalade, fruit preserve, or thing of like nature.
    [Kim] No.
    Would you describe it as being minty?
    Is it made with choux pastry?
    Exlax?
    Is it a breakfast cereal?
    Forget the homogenous choux pastry,(not paying attention....again!)
    [phahad, Inkspot, Software, Inkspot] No.
    Is it something contained within chocolate?
    clapclapclapclapclapclap
    [Boolbar] Yes.
    Is it cocoa/cacao (bean or otherwise)?
    [LotUS] I've already said it contains chocolate.
    Er... a chocolate-covered billiard ball?
    Wait a minute...
    Boolbar - Does it contain chocolate?

    Raak [Boolbar] Yes, and a ripple of applause from the audience.

    Boolbar - Is it something contained within chocolate?

    Raak [Boolbar] Yes.


    I'm sorry. All I can say is.....WHAT?!
    Is it a brand name?
    Hmm. Another paradox strikes. Probably a good job there's no emaG esreveR here...
    A chocolate centred chocolate covered caramel?
    [ZK] I can't get past the 'not being sweet' thing either.
    Straightening the way
    [ZK] I took Boolbar's first question to mean, does the thing partly consist of chocolate? It does. I took his second question to mean, does the thing consist of chocolate enclosing something else? It does.
    [barbacoa] No. Concerning sweetness, I personally wouldn't call chocolate sweet, especially plain chocolate. The thing that it is enclosing is certainly not sweet at all.
    [Everyone] So, what unsweet vegetable thing might be coated with chocolate? I'm sure the answer will be waiting for me in the morning.
    Oops, missed Riff's question. No, not a chocolate-covered billiard ball. (I think the billiard ball would be either ANIMAL or MINERAL, depending on its source.)
    Is it those chocolate-covered coffee bean things you get in places like Starbucks?
    We have a winner!
    [Kim] Yes, it is indeed chocolate-coated coffee beans.
    *blushes*
    I'm so sorry, everyone. I feel I have once again crept up on the side rail and snuck in while others' back were turned. Oh, well, what the hell...
    ANIMAL
    I'm off to Milton Keynes now, so no responses to questions until about 9.00am GMT tomorrow. Line 'em up!
    Is it human?
    Is it a single, living organism?
    Do worms get married?
    Is it/are some of them alive just now?
    Has someone been tapping my brainwaves?
    [Breadmaster] No.
    [Inkspot] Yes.
    [Raak]Yes.
    Is it a worm?
    Native UK?
    *Aaaargh* - Rewind!!!!
    My response to Raak's last question contained a typographical error. The answer to his question is not, in fact, "Yes", but "No". Apologies to all for being asleep at the keyboard. Boolbar and Software invited to review their last questions in the light of this.
    Does it end in "Saurus" ?
    Was it native to a region of the world?
    [Boolbar] No.
    [Inkspot] My research indicates that the answer to your question is Yes.
    Was it alive at any time since 1900?
    How old?
    [Raak] No.
    Dodo?
    Is it the pre-historic single-cell Radiolaria?
    [Boolbar] No.
    [Inkspot] No.
    Is it a reptile?
    Could it fly?
    Was it a sea creature?
    Clarification plase
    Living or dead? Does the answer to Inkspot's first question mean that it is alive right now, or merely that it was alive when it, er, was alive?
    Oooh, aaah!
    [Inkspot] My research indicates that the answer to your question is "No".
    [Boolbar] Yes. *Excited murmurs and a burst of applause from the audience.*
    Is it a fossilised bird?
    Clarification plase (sic)
    *Struggles to resist urge to answer Raak's question with "Yes". Just succeeds.*
    [Raak] My answer to Inkspot's first question may be interpreted to mean that, when they were alive (which, clearly, from my answer to your first question, they no longer are) they were individual, living organisms. I trust this is clear.
    [Inkspot] Yes.
    Archaeopteryx?
    Paleontologists unite!
    [Boolbar] Yes!
    Boolbar wins by a head from Inkspot! The answer is indeed Archaeopteryx.
    I was hoping someone would go for Pterodactyl first, so that I could come back with a witty remark about how I thought that was a verse form, but never mind. I pass the Chair in Jurassic Studies over to Boolbar, with compliments.
    Yey!
    Thank you! From an old bird to the next mystery item . . . ABSTRACT.
    Is it a human concept
    Standard opening
    [Software] Yes it is. (standard answer)
    Is it pleasant?
    * collective sharp intake of breath as the audience first marvel at Boolbar's knowledge of flying creatures that have been dead for ages ... then break into well-deserved applause*
    Takes a bow
    [Chalky] It might be, but then again it might not be. Or then again, the question might not have any meaning.
    Is it an emotion?
    It's not The Matrix or some philosophical thing like that is it?
    Is it the mind?
    As technically speaking, the mind is not regarded as animal (apparently)
    Was it ever thought of before the seventeenth century?
    Another day, another question.
    [Tuj] No.
    [Zooo Keeper] No.
    [Breadmaster] Yes.
    Manichaeanism?
    Wot?
    [Raak] *looks in a dictionary* No. This game is sure educational!
    Is it connected with religion?
    [Raak] No. It's a very general thing so I'm sure it could be said to be connected with lots of things if you really wanted to try and find connections.
    Do animals have this concept also?
    Does it have its origins in philosophical writings?
    Is it 'thought'?
    "Manichaean (n): Someone from Manchester."
    [Tuj] I wouldn't have thought so, but you never can tell . . .
    [Kim] No.
    [Riff] No.
    BTW, saying that it is a human concept might lead you astray. If all life vanished from this planet (or any planet for that matter) then it could be argued that this concept still existed. A bit like the tree falling in the forest when there is no-one around making a sound.
    Is it, therefore, logic?
    Donning thoughtful Bertrand Russell pose.
    [Software] No.
    Is it life itself?
    [Boolbar] Isn't it arguable that a concept must de facto be capable of conception (by beings capable of thought) and that if all life on any planet vanished then there would be nothing left capable of abstract thought and, accordingly, the concept itself would cease to exist. *Lao Tse: "When a tree falls in a forest and you are not there to hear it, does it make a sound?"
    Lord Vetinari: "Yes."
    Lao Tse: "How do you know?"
    Lord Vetinari: "My sources are generally reliable."
    *
    [Kim] No. oh, and yes I agree it is arguable.
    Can you give us a clue? :)
    Clueless
    [ZK] Yes, I will if no-one has got it by tomorrow.
    Is it the passage of time?
    Can it be expressed in equations?
    Audience start muttering and saying "ooooh"
    [Chalky] No. But you have come out of the snow and are warming your toes in front of the fire whilst supping from a good hot soup.
    [Ibid] I can see a way of doing it but it isn't something that you would expect to see in an equation.
    Life, the universe and everything?
    Or is it the restaruant at the end of the universe?
    The ageing process?
    [Software] No on both counts, but I guess the second question allows you to look at the fire through a telescope from about a mile away.
    [Chalky] No. Could you put your soup down and move away from the fire please?
    Finality? as in The End?
    [Chalky] No. *opens door for Chalky*
    Nostalgia?
    [Boobar] Aha ... so I was closer with the passage of time thing then?
    Is is Death?
    I'll repeat that: "Is it death?"
    [Chalky] No. *hands back her soup*
    [Kim] No. *opens door a crack so Kim can see inside*
    Evolution?
    Darn you Boobar! I'm supposed to be cooking dinner, now I'll be glued to this until it's resolved :-)
    Is it the Afterlife?
    Is it purely a temporal phenomenon?
    [Chalky] No
    [Kim] No
    [Ibid] I'd say it always exists (but with above silent tree argument noted).
    C'mon let's get this cracked before tomorrow!
    Is its time zones and British Summer Time?
    Coming in late, been at home on leave and hardly managed to get near the pc, things to etc....makes note for back at the office must remember to work;)
    Resurrection?
    Tricky this.
    Reincarnation?
    [Inkspot] No, but you are in the right area.
    [Tuj] No.
    [Kim] No.
    I may or may not be around until Monday. Hopefully someone will have a brainwave tomorrow.
    Is it a measurement of time?
    ...not quite tomorrow yet where I am...
    Is it a phrase to describe a 'time' event? or a phrase with a time element?
    first example-high noon or sunset.
    second example 'golden years/days'
    Good guess, that. When you're metaphorical, you can't go wrong in terms of abstract.
    The answer never comes . . . .
    [Tuj] Not quite.
    [Inkspot] Yes!! (to first part).
    Is it one of the Seasons?
    Or am I going too broad with this again?
    Is it a relative time phrase?
    As in yesterday, tomorrow, or the like, I mean.
    Is it the passage of time?
    This month?
    [Kim] Bzzzzt - Repetition!
    Is it "Now"?
    [Chalks] Saaary! Must remember to read through previous postings....
    ...on which the sun never sets.
    Bit of a long explanation this. Some mumbling and rambling. My assumption begins with some events such as calender months and weeks are subjective 'man-made'. On the moon with on side always in the dark the normal definition of night/day does not apply nor would yesterday,sunsets/dawn, time zones etc.. I've tried to word the question to avoid confusion with as seen from earth events, eg crescent moon, except eclipses.
    1. Does it occur on the moon, if you were to live there?
    2. Does it occur on earth and on moon?
    3. Is it subjective man made??
    The more I try to think the more I get confused ;)
    Do I have to mention it again?
    [Zooo K] No.
    [Tuj] Yes! *An audience member faints, the rest gasp*
    [Kim] No.
    [Chalky] No. But the right area (see answer to Tuj)
    [Kim] No.
    [Inkspot] (1) I suppose you could define it on the moon using some sort of astronomic framework. (2) It occurs on the Earth because we have defined it. If we visited the moon, we would just use the Earth system and definition. (3) Taking your definition, yes. The more I try and answer these questions, the more I get confused.
    Is it one of the seasons? a previous season?
    bzzzzt
    Repetition!
    Does it descibe a period of more than seven days?
    ZK]apologies, and only six moves previous. I promise not to do it again till next time.
    Back tomorrow
    [Inkspot] No to both!
    Big Clue
    Tuj came the closest - in fact I could give it to him, but he didn't put something in the right place. . .
    Is it 'today'?
    Or just a day?
    Nostalgic for yesterday! Not me I'm far too busy, it's not like in the old days but then the summers were longer and hotter.
    ...and on the moon there is only today, there is no yesterday and tomorrow never comes...Mr Bond
    An answer, an answer, there's always an answer . . .
    [ZK] Try again . . .
    [Inkspot] Is there a question in there (or an answer?)
    The answer has been mentioned so many times but not as an answer.
    I think it has to be "tomorrow".
    ...but, if it is, I shall abrogate the Chair in favour of Tuj.
    Boolbar]I was hoping Tuj was around to step in and take the chair, but he does not seem to have been around much yesterday.
    Heaves huge sigh of relief.
    [Kim] It is indeed. If you want to give it to Tuj then by all means do so.

    * Audience awakens from a long snooze and breaks into huge applause shouting out Kim and Tuj's names and slapping Inkspot on the back before dashing for the toilets *

    plaudits
    Well done Kim & Tuj et al. Last night, on returning from 36 hours of 'celebrating', I was surprised to find that this one hadn't been 'nailed'. Good choice Boobar :-)
    re: the next one - I think whoever is 'around' now and for the next few hours should take the chair.
    We want Tuj!
    Where is Tuj based? If he's out of commission for any reason, then I'll supply the next one, but I propose to wait until 5.00pm UK time, to give Tuj a chance to play. Any objections to this?
    Waaaah! Combination of monitor failure at work (not to mention the slowest-responding IT helpdesk in Europe and a son distinctly under the weather at home have prevented me from posting since this lunchtime. Sorry, one and all for the hiatus. OK, I see that Tuj is otherwise occupied, so I will take the chair once more. OK, since collaborations seem to be all the rage (cf. Britney, featuring Madonna), lets say: Abstract, featuring Vegetable.
    Is the vegetable a food item?
    Is it a biological process, like transpiration?
    Is it a musical group?
    like Boyzone featuring Robbie Williams?
    Is it a figurative vegetable?
    E.g. the apple of one's eye, the tree of life, etc.
    Is it an insult, like Turnip Head?
    Ping!
    [Riff] Yes.
    [ZK] No.
    [Dazed5] No.
    [Raak] Yes.
    [Software] No.
    Is the vegetable a fruit?
    The Great Pumpkin?
    Is it the title of a book and/or film?
    Is it chocolate?
    [Chalky] Yes.
    [Raak] You're a good man, Charlie Brown, but no.
    [Boolbar] Yes.
    [Lib] No.
    Attack of the Killer Tomatoes?
    Some people classify tomatoes as a fruit.
    Are Oranges the Only Fruit?
    Is it a recent book/film .... say post - 1990?
    Temparature's rising...
    [Raak] Super, but no.
    [Inkspot] No.
    [Chalky] No.
    The Grapes of Wrath?
    James and the Giant Peach?
    oops - too recent.
    Peachy
    [BtD] The book isn't.
    Four Weddings and a Banana?
    A clockwork orange?
    Here we go round the Mulberry Bush?
    only guessed this after discounting Last Mango in Paris
    Boolbar wins again!
    Another fine drop goal sails majestically between the uprights from the golden boot of Boolbar. The answer is, indeed, Steinbeck's searing indctment and merciless evocation of loss and displacement, The Grapes of Wrath.
    Consolation prizes to Software and Dazed5 - there must be a new game in there somewhere (perhaps a replacement for the current Pants game, which, to my mind, had run its course some time ago).
    The Chair passes to Boolbar.
    * audience, having just got settled, tosses aside popcorn and malteser boxes, and erupts into noisy raucous cheering for Boolbar - who has proved himself master of the Abstract Vegetable genre*
    Surprised
    Oooh, better do a quickie then. Animal
    Is it a ... erm .... 'quick' animal?
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