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Animal-Vegetable-Mineral-Abstract: The Pants Memorial Game
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The chairperson selects an object/idea/whatever and announces whether it's animal, vegetable, mineral, and/or abstract. The others have to ask questions to figure out what it is. Whomever guesses the object correctly is given the chair for the next round; repeat ad nauseam.
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Does it exist still today?
Is it used to produce something useful?
Is it New York?
Is it das heilige röische Reich der deutsche Nation?
Um, römishce.
Oh bollocks you know what I mean.
Anything to to with transport?
Anything from a bridge, a car, a plane, trains or Aladins first magic carpet
Is it London Bridge?
Is it The Head of Steam?
rab - No; Boolbar - No; Raak - No; rab - No; Inkspot - No; Chalky - No; Raak - No
Rab is the closest so far. Inkspot was but he seems to have strayed off the course...
Is it an ocean?
Was it destroyed by a natural disater?
Is it in England?
Is it the Industrial Revolution?
To recap: Made by humans.
Not a building.
Not a McDonald's Happy Meal.
Not related to art.
Doesn't really perform a practical function.
Associated with a particular part of the world.
Existed prior to 1900.
Only one.
Some of its constituent parts are edible.
Not a household item.
Not a lead-weighted cosh with a leather grip.
Something we would probably be fairly pleased to own.
Doesn't include packaging (simple answer).
Can be quite noisy.
Wouldn't be allowed to take it on an aeroplane.
Not one of the seven wonders of the world.
Not an island.
Has moving parts.
Not in Europe.
Large (compared to a telephone box).
Not a coach and horses.
Not the Last Supper.
In a way a collection of items given a single name.
Not really owned by a country or an individual.
Probably not safe by today's general standards.
Could be said to be a geographical feature.
Not associated with sport.
Could be said to be a geographical region.
No longer in existence.
Not used to produce something useful.
Not New York.
Not rab's bollocks.
Nothing to do with transport.
Not London Bridge.
Not The Head of Steam.
Is it some sort of realm? The Roman Empire?
[Kayl] Apparantly it was in Europe.
Is it anything to do with summat up in space?
As 'rab's bollocks' [see Kayl summary] was the closest so far - can we have a translation?
oops - can't be space age - existed before 1900 - doh!
Is it a city, town, or other habitation?
USSR?
[rab]ah, true, my mistake
Bob - No; Inkspot - No; Boolbar - No; Kayl - No; rab - Yes followed by No; Chalky - No but retraction noted; Raak - No, Chalky - No
Is it specifically an empire? If so, is it the British Empire?
Was it more than 1000 years ago?
The Civilised World?
Is it larger than St. Paul's Cathedral?
Was it larger than Derbyshire?
Pre-1974 counties, etc.
Did it cover all or part of what is now considered the British Isles (ie UK + Ireland and various bits that no-one else wants)?
Rutland?
rab - Yes! but No; Inkspot - No; Kayl - Yes; Raak - Yes; Ibid - Yes; rab - No; Chalky - No
The British Empire?
Oops, didn't read the previous answers properly.
The Roman Empire?
The Holy Roman Empire?
Is it the Ottoman Empire ?
Or a test match Cricket Empire?
Was it southern european?
Did its influence extend beyond Euope?
Raak - No (to all three); Inkspot - Yes and Yes... but; BtD - YES!!!
And the fireworks fly for Bob the Dog!!! A tewnty-one scimitar salute to be given in Constantinople in your honour sir! And I cede the chair to you...
Oooh how nice!
Thank you LotUS - especially the 'tewnty-one scimitar salute'. Hmm now I'll have to think about this for a while...
Ok - that didn't take long. This one is Abstract/Animal.
Is it found in a children's story?
Is it a "nightmare"?
Has it appeared in a film?
Good one Lotus, any appearance of knowing what I was doing was purely coincidence;)
Is it Zaphod Beeblebrox?
Is it a unicorn?
Would it be possible to buy one?
Is it green
As in bug-eyed alien.
Is it mythological?
Is it connected to music?
Did it exist pre-1500?
Boolbar - yes.
Software - no.
Inkspot - 1)yes 2)no.
Raak - no.
Lib - the simple answer is yes.
Ibid - no.
LotUS - no.
Chalky - no.
Kayl - no.
The Cat In The Hat?
Has it appeared in a Disney film?
Is it a bear?
Does it share a name with an underground station?
Would I come across it in a Harry Potter novel?
Some sort of fantasy? (eg LOTR etc)
Does it feature in...
Is it (in theory) smaller than normal human size?
Boolbar - no.
Ibid - 1) no 2) no 3) no.
Boolbar - no.
rab - 1) yes, but not in the sense you are thinking. 2) It does not feature in LOTR.
Riff - arguable, but most people would say yes to this.
Was the film made before the year 2000?
Was it one of the main characters of the film?
Is it extra-terrestrial? (And if so, is it ET?)
Is it a computer generated creature?
Inkspot - 1) I think so. 2) yes.
rab - no. Chalky - no.
Was it a live-action film?
...a blind alley
Riff - There have been a few films, at least one has been live action, but this abstract/animal doodah is not usually associated with movies.
Was the story written by a British author?
Timmy?
The Famous Five; Julian, Dick, Anne, George and Timmy, the terrifying dog ever, I lose count of the number of hardened criminals who yelled "...and keep that dog away from me!"
Snowy (Tintin's dog)?
Is it a mammal?
Inkspot - 1) no. 2) no
Raak - No. But warm.
Boolbar - "Yes".
Is it more human [as opposed to an animal]?
unless I've missed something - have we established that this is an animal?
Tintin?
Snow White? Toto?
I can't help but think of that pr0nographic Tintin comic strip now..
er... Lassie?
Asterix? or Obelix?
?
Old Yeller?
[Chalky] Well, it's arguably smaller than normal human size...
Chalky - yes.
Raak - no.
snorgle - 1) no 2) no.. (What this about Tintin!?) Riff - no.
Tina - Sorry - don't know Old Yeller.
Riff - That is because it is a diminutive human. Have I missed anyone?
Oh yes, Wol - 2)no. 1) - YES!!!
We have a winner! Well done all concerned! Again, Inkspot asked a lot of the right questions, Raak got searingly close with the Snowy guess. Asterx the Gaul it was, Wol, you have the chair!
Oooh - I think that was my first contribution to that game, so apologies and thanks to all of you who did the hard work. Standing on the shoulders of giants, etc.
OK - let's make this one swift - ANIMAL/MINERAL
It is sentient?
A pair of hobnailed leather boots?
Is it a robot/cyborg?
Is it edible?
Is it bigger than a microwave oven?
Kim - no; Raak - so close! ;-); Boolbar - no; Btd - no; Soft - no.
Steel-capped boots? Some kind of footwear?
[rab] sorry - don't be misled (I wasn't trying to misle, anyway). Raak wasn't that close.
Any form of clothing?
I'll take that as a no to both then.
[rab] Yes - it's a no-no.
It's not those leather-lined steel manacles again, is it?
[Wol] What about rab's last question (clothing)?
Is the animal content (mostly) leather?
A leather belt with studs?
Does is have a zip?
[Bob - that was a simulpost in case it looked as though I was leaping on your idea!]
Sorry - not with it this morning. No, it's not clothing (except in an extremely tangential sense which I won't tease you with). Raak - no; Btd - yes; Chalky - no (but close, oddly); Ink - no.
A bridle?
...or some sort of horsey harness stuff?
Is the mineral content metal?
Does it have fastenings?
Is it worn by an animal?
Could you buy it in M&S?
Just off to buy my prawn sandwiches.
Bondage gear?
Stirrups?
may as well keep guessing
Dog Collar?
As worn by a dog, not a vicar. (Although in some cases I'm sure it may well be . . .)
Let's cut to the quick - Boolbar: YES! I'm dead impressed by the speed of homing in on that (only 3 substantive contributions from me). So it's over to:
  • Boolbar -
    • Yikes!
    OK so let's go for . . . . . ANIMAL
    Kate Bush?
    [BtD] No. I thought that might be too predictable. :o)
    2 legs?
    Well done Boolbar (bit of a geezer) :-). I'm determined to get the answer one day soon. It keeps happening just as I'm on the verge of nailing it - but get called away for something trivial, like earning a living.
    Is it native to one particular continent?
    whereas migratory birds are incontinent.
    [Chalky] No. But keep guessing. This might be your lucky day.
    [Inkspot] It originated from one continent.
    Extant?
    Mankind?
    Would that continent be Australia?
    Furry?
    A hamster?
    Insect?
    Even a bee can cross continents
    [rab] Technically, no. Physically yes.
    [Raak] No.
    [Kayl] No.
    [Chalky] No.
    [BtD] No.
    [Inkspot] No.
    Is it a single instance of a deceased thing?
    [rab] Yes.
    By heck! It can be difficult deciding what the answers should be sometimes. But nice to see how people can go along the wrong tangent.
    A fossil?
    [Chalky] No.

    I'm off home now. I might be able to check in later, otherwise it will be 09:00 GMT tomorrow before I'm back.

    Actually - fossils would be mineral. Is it an animal product?
    The Iceman?
    I don't think so, since that would have two legs... so...
    Is it on show at a museum (or similar institution) somewhere?
    Was it a mammal?
    Was it a horse? If so, was it 'Seabiscuit'
    Since there is a film about that one out...
    Did it die within the last 50 years?
    Is it the proverbial dead do-do?
    [Chalky] I wouldn't call it an animal product no.
    [rab] (a) No. (b) A copy might be but I don't know to be sure.
    [Ibid] (a) Yes. (b) No.
    [Inkspot] It did cease to 'exist' in the last 50 years but I guess it is also still alive. (Is this a clue?)
    [Tuj] No.
    Is the species particular/associated to one continent?
    As in kangeroos - Australia
    Penguin - Antartica
    I know its a blind alley, but I'm a bit lost at the moment.
    Is it a named animal?
    ie;Shep the dog / Shergar
    Is it a dead human?
    In which case that narrows it down to mere 7,098,764,098,76410 :o)
    Elvis?
    Dead but still alive?
    Jake the Peg?
    Is it part of an animal?
    Is it smallpox?
    A good nights sleep, a disease that was eradicated but still alive in labs, are there any others?
    Hmmm, perhaps I better fill in a few gaps.
    [Inkspot 1] 'It' is associated with one country - but didn't always stay there. 'It' might be there now, or spread around more than one country - I don't know 'its' exact whereabouts at this moment.
    [Inkspot 2] 'It' has a name and I'd be surprised if anyone here had not heard of 'it'.
    [BtD 1] No.
    [BtD 2] No.
    [Raak] No. But at least someone is starting to think around the "not 2 legs" bit.
    [Chalky] No.
    [Inkspot 3] No.

    I think it is the existence thing that may cause confusion (it confuses me). 'It' no longer exists in a similar way to the last MC pilg not existing any more.

    Is it a team or group of people?
    Is it Monty Python?
    (by which I mean the Monty Python crew, not the nonexistent person of Monty Python him/her/itself)
    [Raak 1] YES! [Raak 2] No.
    A political connection?
    Ok, it's Monty Python.
    Have I won?
    Sorry, misreading on my part...
    Is it a sporting team?
    If so, I've absolutely no chance of gettting it.
    Is it the Welsh?
    Btd - no.
    Oh, er, they still exist.
    Anything to do with music?
    [Chalky] Political? None that I know of
    [Raak] Sporting? No.
    [BtD] Music? YES!
    Bum, simulpost! Blaah!
    The Beatles?
    Assuming it's not the Beatles, is it European?
    Rock music?
    If Raak is wrong we will need something to go on. I want Chalky to win this one...(I was going to say "I'm rooting for Chalky" but that didn't sound quite right).
    [Raak] No. [Darren] Yes. [BtD] I wouldn't say so, more "Pop". I'm not sure why I picked them, except they are well known and they popped into my head first.
    Can I have a 'p' please?
    I didn't make that clear. They are definitely pop, with a capital 'P'.
    Abba?
    Ooooh Bob!
    British?
    sorry to have 2 goes - I'm a bit busy this morning, so have to make the most of being on site.
    Does it begin with a 'P'? [Was that a clue?]
    now I'm being REALLY pushy. It was the rooting what did it.
    Rooting and tooting
    [Chalky] Super trooper! Abba it is! Here, have a chair....
    Excellent Boolbar.
    Yeaaa for Chalky!
    *ANIMAL, VEGETABLE, MINERAL & ABSTRACT*
    Many thanks for the support, Bob - I shall wear it with pride.
    Is it The Restaurant at the End of the Universe?
    What! All 4?
    Is the animal aspect human?
    Boolbar - No. Raak - YES
    [Boolbar] The Abstract element should really be bracketted - I thought it might offer a clue - and judging by your first guess, which ain't 'alf bad, I did the right thing.
    Is the human aspect, one person?
    Is it an event?
    Teset the water, dipping in my little toe!
    Is the abstract aspect due to its being a collection, assemblage, group, etc.?
    Is it 'Australia'?
    Is it a product of the entertainment industry?
    Boolbar - No. Inkspot - Yes. Raak - mostly Yes. Bob - No. Darren - Yes.
    Is it for charity?
    Does it involve eating?
    Woodstock?
    Is it a performance?
    Is it a musical performance?
    Backtracking slightly.
    Chealsea flower show?
    Ibid - Don't think so. Boolbar - it might do. Kayl - No. Darren - YES. Kayl - music comes into it, yes. Softers - No :-)
    Is it a pantomime?
    Is it an outdoor performance?
    Boolbar - It isn't regarded as such. Inkspot - No.
    Funnily enough, I had considered Dracula - The Vampire Strikes Back! as a possible [and very topical] object for guessing.
    Has this performance happened already this year?
    Raak - Yes.
    Will it happen again this year?
    Does it happen on television?
    Was it held in the Royal Albert Hall?
    Is it taking place in London?
    The Eurobore Song Contest?
    Raak - (1) Yes (2) Occasionally. Inkspot - No. Bobthedog - Yes. Softers - No.
    Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?
    Does it have anything to do with Andrew Lloyd Weber?
    Is it a musical?
    Boolbar - good question but No. Kayl - bit late but Yes. Bob the dog - Of all the musicals in all the West End - ya had to go an' pick the RIGHT ONE!
    Well guessed Sir! [with admirable back-up from Boolbar, Raak and Darren]. As I'm not around much until Monday night - I'm rather pleased that one went so quickly. The CHAIR is yours ....
    Bah humbug. My time will come!
    This I did not expect - thank you Chalky - were you rooting too?! Kayl - good luck! OK - ABSRACT.
    Fermat's Last Theorem?
    Is an action?
    It is a concept?
    [BtD] Ta. :)
    Raak - no.
    Inkspot - no.
    Kayl - in a way - but misleading to say yes.
    Standard question. Is it found *solely* on earth?
    Is it in any way scientific?
    Is it a verbal expression?
    Is it possible to make one using only common household items?
    Is it religious in nature?
    Is it art?
    "Ah! The little grey cells..." Hercule Poirot
    Dr Q - strictly speaking yes.
    Software - not generally considered to be.
    Inkspot - not in the usual sense.
    Raak - yes.
    Riff - no.
    Kim - no.
    A brainwave?
    Is it a mistake of some kind?
    The "yes" answer to Raak's question seems to make it a material object, yet it cannot be, being Abstract. Therefore . . .
    Is it a term to describe a collection of objects?
    Does it involve words?
    Dujon - lovely, but no.
    Rosie - no.
    Inkspot - no.
    Raak - no.
    Life?
    Does it involve sounds?
    Riff - no.
    Raak - It can be expressed in sound.
    [Rosie] I have chosen something that is abstract but can be represented in a physical, tangible way using a range of media, many of which are commonly found around the average house.
    Raak - Your question 'does it involve words' was close - perhaps rephrase it.
    Does it involve waves?
    Does it involve writing?
    Is it a single abstract thing, or a group of... abstract things?
    It's not 'A badly phrased question', is it?
    Could it be considered a kind of message?
    A song?
    A painting?
    Kayl - no.
    Darren - it does.
    Tuj - not a y/n question - but I'm thinking of a single abstract thing.
    Breadmaster - not on its own.
    Rosie - no.
    snorgle - no.
    Does it require any electrical equipment to occur?
    Calligraphy?
    Does it have to do with musical notation?
    Is it a kitchen drama?
    Ibid - no.
    Raak - no.
    Raak - no.
    Inkspot - no.
    Raak is getting warmer.
    Can it be written down?
    Does it come in different types?
    Can be expressed in a variety of physical ways, including sound; involves writing but not calligraphy, words or musical notation; is not on its own a message; no batteries required. Thinkthinkthink...
    Is it an emotion?
    or an idea?
    Does it normally create a positive response?
    It's not actually 'music' is it?
    ...but then that would through the musical notation question out. Hmmm...
    Is it musical ability?
    Sorry for jumping in again like this.
    Kayl - 1) YES, 2) YES.
    Raak - 1) It does involve writing but it is not calligraphy (I think this is slightly different from your interpretation of my answer - 'calligraphy' is not the answer, however, this thing can be expressed using calligraphy. 'Words' is a little more complex - it is involved in words but is not a word if you see what I mean...
    Raak - 2) no.
    Riff - not really.
    Inkspot - not positive or negative.
    LotUS - 1) no. 2) no.(Keep jumping in!)
    The Koran?
    Is it the alphabet?
    Or if not the alphabet itself, is it a particular letter?
    [Raak] It's not religious.
    Er, since you've said there's more than one type, maybe I should specify our alphabet, as distinct from, say, the Chinese one.
    A word?
    Raak - no.
    Riff - 1) no. 2) yes!
    Raak - no.
    B?
    Riff - no.
    *sigh*
    Well, I don't want to be a bastard by making 25 more guesses in a row, so I'll just guess "Q", and then I'm going to bed...
    Riff - no.
    Bearing in mind that everyone should now have an equal chance - from now on I should ration guesses to one at a time - no multiple guesses (e.g. Is it A, C, D, E?) and no posting twice without allowing another player to have a turn. And I'll take first answers only. There is a clue in my first posting of this game...
    I'll chose the last letter of my third sons name 'M'
    T?
    A?
    O?
    K?
    (B t D) Everyone should observe these conventions anyway.
    F?
    Presumably the musical connection means it is a letter from A to G...
    H?
    Recall that the Germans extend the musical alphabet for some superstitious reason that escapes me for the moment.
    Pfff. C?
    Er... Raak's question "Does it have to do with musical notation?" was answered "No."
    X
    In which case I retract the H (so don't answer on that one) and invoke the mathematically unknown gambit.
    T?
    I'm guessing T because you spelt abstract as "ABSRACT" in your first posting..
    Sorry snorgle you got the right clue but Riff has already tried the letter 'T' - the RIGHT ANSWER! Congratulations Riff the chair is yours...
    Joy! [Bob]Thank you, sir -- good game!
    Okay: Abstract, but with an arguable Mineral connection.
    The Midas Touch?
    Curses, if it wasn't for you pesky kids.. :) I hadn't noticed Riff's guess actually..
    I post like the ninja!
    [snorgle] Nope.
    Is the mineral water?
    And I don't mean Mineral Water.
    [Rosie] No.
    The Diamond Sutra?
    Is it a human concept?
    [Raak] No.
    [Software] Er... yes... although I may be interpreting that question differently than you intended it. A bit vague.
    Is it the planet Tatooine?
    [Bob] No.
    Is it this game?
    I was pondering whether this game would be counted as Mineral or Abstract only the other day.
    Is it related to a specific country?
    Would it apply to smething humans do in everyday life?
    Is it a title of a film?
    The Rock of Ages?
    [Boolbar] No.
    [Snorgle] It could be, but isn't generally.
    [Software] Yes.
    [Inkspot] Sort of, but only coincidentally.
    [Raak] No.
    Is it something to do with computers?
    Is it connected to travel?
    Taking coals to Newcastle?
    Does it involve communication?
    (Boolbar) This game itself must be Abstract, possibly with Mineral connections. No pun intended.
    Is it something people generally will pay for ?
    thought i would add my rare tuppence worth over here.
    [Boolbar] Yes.
    [Inkspot] Not inherently.
    [Raak] What?
    [Rosie] Yes.
    [st d] No.
    is it Pi?
    Is in an email?
    [Riff] I guess that's a no. (To take coals to Newcastle, erstwhile centre of the former British coalmining industry, is like selling refridgerators to Eskimos.)
    Is it something that people do?
    Is it an internet chatroom?
    Selling sand to Arabia
    Software?
    [Bob] No.
    [rab] No.
    [Raak] Ah, I see. 'No' is correct.
    [Raak] Oog. Nnno... and then again, yes. Put it this way: it's a noun that's frequently verbed. That's probably a real giveaway, right there.
    [Bigsmith] No. [Software] Well, no, but some might argue.
    Does it need electricity to operate?
    Is it a browser?
    [Bob] Yes.
    [Inkspot] No.
    By 'computer' do we mean a traditional desktop device, in the main? If not, is it an SMS text?
    A mobile phone ring tone?
    [rab] Yes we do.
    [Raak] No.
    Is it Google?
    Is it websurfing?
    Bing bing bing!
    Google it is! Kayl takes the win!
    Oh, and here's a line:
    - where are you?
    Congrats! - Btd.
    kayl
    I think he's hiding.. Is that him?
    Right here
    Sorry, temperamental computer here. I'm afraid the noun/verb did rather give it away. Ok new one: Mineral/Vegetable is probably the best way of describing it.
    Is it edible?
    Is the vegetable part wood?
    Is it smaller than an average sized collie dog?
    A salted peanut?
    Is it hand made?
    Is it a diamond-studded carrot?
    you never know..
    ...or anything to do with Belgium?
    BNob? Argh!
    Btd - Heh heh heh!
    [Btd]YES. Damn, too easy. [Boolbar] No. [Chalky] Size doesn't really come into it. [Raak] No. [Inkspot] To a certain extent, but I wouldn't follow that fish. [snorgle] No, but what a fantastic idea. [Bnob] I first came across it in Belgium as it happens, but no, it's not essentially Belgian.
    Can you buy it in a supermarket?
    Is it something that can be drunk?
    [Schalky] Yes.
    [Boolbar] Yes.
    Is it alcoholic?
    Is it some sort of flavoured mineral water?
    Is the mineral part the glass container of the liquid?
    Wine?
    [rab]No.
    [Raak]No.
    [Boolbar]No.
    [Chaskly]No.
    Is it a 'fast' food?
    Or a soup?
    Is it sold in cans?
    [BtD]1. It can be served pretty fast.
    2.No.
    [Inkspot]It can be.
    Is it seafood?
    Coca-Cola? [or pepsi Cola]
    Is water the mineral part?
    I'd opt for Whole Earth Organic Cola with real cola nut extract. Is it that?
    Oh my goodness, I sound like a hippy. Man.
    Is it Bed Bull?
    [Boolbar]No.
    [UnChalk]No.
    [Raak]No.
    [Bob]No, sounds lovely though.
    [Inkspot] No.
    Although it can be drunk, is it generally regarded as a drink?
    Tonic Water?
    Is it Goldshlager?
    You know, that cinnamon spirit with gold flecks. Is that even healthy, imbibing a heavy metal?
    Is it served hot?
    Does it contain tomato?
    Is it fizzy?
    [rab]Yes, but I'd continue along this line of questioning if I were you.
    [Pchalky] No. [snorgle]Sounds lovely, but no. [Inkspot]It can be. [Breadmaster]No.
    Woop, sorry.
    [Boolbar] No.

    I really can't get the hang of these < br > breaks.

    Is it Norfolk Punch?
    No.
    Is it a dip to accompany food?
    Not conventionally.
    Is it normally served in a bottle?
    Is it savoury?
    [Ibid]Yes.
    [Shorty]No.
    Is it medicinal?
    Soya sauce?
    Does it contain cheese?
    Is is made from a particular fruit or vegetable?
    [Bob] I can never decide whether to put Bob or BtD, no. [Raak]No. [Boolbar]I can't give you that. [Inkspot] Yes.
    [Boolbar] Yes that was a hint.
    Does it contain lemons?
    Is it milk?
    Kayl] Put 'Bob'. I sometimes use Btd (never BtD). Bob's nice, I like 'Bob'.
    [i]Egg Nog?[/i]
    D'oh. Stupid chat-board meta-tags. Egg Nog.
    Is it milkshake?
    smoothie?
    Is it a fondue?
    Moving off at a tangent and trying to tie up in my mind, Boolbar - Is the mineral part the glass container of the liquid? (no), and Ibid - Is it normally served in a bottle?(yes)
    soya milk?
    Riff - if you put your answer in the bit that says Apropos you don't need tags - its automatically italicised.
    Is it sweet?
    [Inkspot] Maybe it contains salt.
    If this thing were milk or a product thereof, would that make it animal? And if so, eeeeoooo!
    Coconut milk?
    [Raak]No.
    [Bob]Yes, but as a characteristic of the final answer.
    [Riff]No.[Zoo Keep]No on both counts.
    [Inkspot]No.
    [snorgle]No.
    [Breadmaster]No.
    [Talky]No.
    Is it a milk derivative, like yoghurt?
    In a sense.
    Lassi?
    Sour cream?
    I have to confess - all this talk of milk and milk derivatives is confusling me, knowing that this is a 'Vegetable/Mineral' thing.
    Is it Danone Actimel Yogurt Drink?
    or similar done by Yakult healthy bacteria drink.
    Is it a product for people who can't have (or don't want) dairy products?
    Ahh... Soy Milk.
    [Raak]No.
    [Khalcy]No. The mineral refers to the minerals you find in milk, like Calcium.
    [Inkspot]No.
    [Boolbar]No.[Riff]No.

    You're following the wrong fish I should mention.

    Irn Bru?
    Made from girrders!
    Mineral water?
    Oooh!
    A cup of tea?
    Coffee?
    A frappucino?
    Or perhaps a nice hot mug of melted Cheddar?
    Cafe Latte extra foam?
    Danone Activ?
    It is, in fact, Herbie, a plate of steak and chips...
    Horlicks?
    Yumma!
    Is it purchased in liquid form? I'm thinking powdered milk?
    I have to say, this is really confusing me...
    Hot chocolate?
    me too rab - I suppose the next batch of replies might help. Kayl?
    Is it a hot chocoalte malt drink?
    Is it normally consumed from the recepticle it has been bought in?
    I've been trying to join together some of the yes answers with the maybes but to no avail put together they have completley thrown me; is a milk derivitive like yogurt(in a sense), that is a drink, can be served hot, normally served in a bottle, milk is a characteristic of the final answer, can be sold in cans.
    Is it a sauce?
    Stone soup?
    Instant coffee?
    which in my opinion is evil.
    Is it made from a particular fruit?
    Going back a couple of questions as I didn't chase up the 'yes' made from a particular fruit or vegetable.
    Lovells milky lunch bar?
    Cheesey Peas?
    Would it be served in a café?
    Oh dear. Having returned after 3 hours, I was rather hoping this one would be wrapped up by now. It is rather reminiscent of the PantsMC game - y'know the sort of thing - no replies for aeons; conflicting clues, etc etc. Some people [no names] used to get a bit tetchy. Great fun.
    [snorgle]No.
    [Bob]2(No)
    [Chalkos]No
    [Riff]no
    [Angus]No
    [Zoo Keep]No
    [Bob]No
    [rab]Usually liquid, extreme examples can be solid (clue!)
    [Chucky]No.
    [Inkspot]No.
    [Inkspot]It isn't normally consumed.
    [Boolbar]No
    [Raak]No
    [Lib]No
    [Inkspot]No, vegetable: grass.
    [Dixy]No.
    [Boolbar]No
    [Chalky] Not if you're lucky. Sorry about this, I've tried to give more clues.
    Is it a cleaning product?
    Is it some sort of plant food?
    [Boolbar]No.
    [rab]No.

    Ok, you're veering off in the wrong direction here guys. Stick with types of milk.

    Does it contain milk from a cow?
    [Raak]Any milk is possible, but cow milk is how you've most likely come across it.
    Is it mixed with someting else before being a drink?
    Definitly a daft question when it is not consumed but is a drink.
    Is it for human rather than animals to drink but not consume?
    Chalky] ...and while I'm at it...!! who's getting tetchy?
    sap?
    Does it contain caffeine?
    [Inkspot]No.
    [Inkspot]Yes. Sorry, I see the confusion. It is a drink, a form of milk, I'm just saying you wouldn't want to drink it.
    [Chalky]No.
    [Raak]No.
    To clarify the clarification: it is a drink in the measure that it is drinkable.
    It's not milk of magnesia is it?
    I mean, it's a laxative, so you wouldn't want to drink it...
    Ibid - Medicinal was eliminated
    [Ibid]No, form of cow milk that you wouldn't want to drink.
    Is it beestings?
    Raak]The sting of bees? No.
    Ah, just looked it up. No.
    the cud? [as in ...chewing the]
    Milk that has gone off?
    [Chalky]No.
    [Boolbar] YES! YES! YES!
    Well done Boolbar, that was quite painful. I was actually thinking of Sour Milk. Have a line:
    Hmmmm
    You see, I would have answered no to this question.
    Sorry about that, I guess you have to set a definition of 'drink'.
    Beestings
    [Kayl] Beestings is the watery milk that is first produced after a cow has had a calf, a fact which I only know because it was the first or last entry in one of the pages of Chambers Dictionary (Mid-Century Edition, 1953) in our house when I was growing up, and therefore was repeated in the header of the page.
    Hmmmm
    Not that I was desperate to win that particular round because I have been in the chair quite recently - but my guess of 'Sour Cream' received an unequivocal thumbs down with nary a hint that I might be on the right lines. But I'm not bitter :-) We had 'milk' in a Pants game [sorry to keep banging on about Pantics] and it was definitely an ANIMAL. The bacteria that cause it to go 'off' are arguably animal aswell.
    Clarse-ification
    I was wondering whether the product of an animal should be defined as animal, and I decided no on the grounds that anything man-made would therefore by extension also be animal.
    digging in
    Butter? Lamb Chop? Surely anything 'man-made' should be classified by its material composition?
    Well yes
    Absolutely - hence why it would be inconsistent to describe milk as animal because it's made of minerals but produced by a cow, but a CD mineral cos it's made of plastic and produced by a human.
    milking it
    Now your tending towards syllogism :-) We're arguing on two fronts here - firstly 'What is milk'? which we disagree on; secondly 'anything man-made should be classified by its material composition' which we agree on. I don't see the logical step from one to the other. Perhaps I'm a bit tired.
    it's brown and sounds like a bell
    [Chalky] If milk, an animal by-product, is 'animal', what about dung? By your argument it's 'animal', but surely it's 'vegetable', since that's what the cow ate. Or possibly 'mineral', if you figure it's been broken down that far.
    talking of turds
    Yes, I hear [see] what you're saying, Riff. We had an extensive discussion when this game began, much along the lines of this little spat, ie. how far should we break things down. I can't remember whether it was on the first page of this game or in the Banter Game and I can't be arsed to search back 'cause it's way past my bedtime. But just as a parting shot, and because I'm feeling mischievous - further to your cowdung theory - would you differentiate between the solid waste products of a meat-eating human and a vegetarian?
    Minutiae
    Bloody Hell! It's hard enough when you are in the seat to attempt to answer questions in a manner which does not mislead without having each move analysed when the game is over.
    Whilst I must admit the discussion has been most entertaining, Kayl, you have my sympathy. Regardless, carry on the discussion - assuming that Boolbar doesn't produce the gavel; as I said 'tis amusing to follow the arguments of logic. ... ;-)
    poo ingredients
    Mainly, I would hope that none of us would choose "the contents of a vegetarian's colon" for a topic. But, yes, I would probably call the vegetarian's waste 'vegetable' and the meat-eater's 'animal and vegetable' (since the meat-eater presumably doesn't live solely on meat... although, another animal -- a cheetah, say...)

    I really shouldn't have brought this up, should I?

    Bringing things up
    [Riff] I hope you're not bringing it up, or you'd be suffering from major digestive malfunction!
    Can we get on with it now, please?
    [Riff] Rotter! "The content of a vegetarian's colon" was exactly the topic I was going to choose if I got into the chair. I would have set it as abstract since its animal, vegetable or mineral content could not be ascertained without removing it from the colon in question.
    I do love sparking linguistic controversy.
    Blimey! I thought that was a question leading towards the correct answer, not the answer itself. OK, I'll try and pick something simple that shouldn't lead to confusion (ha!) and get someone else in the chair. VEGETABLE
    [Kim] I do apologise. Let me offer you, as a replacement, my backup idea: a chocolate-covered billiard ball. No one'll ever guess that.

    Oops!

    Oh, right, the game.
    Is it commonly used as food?
    [Riff] No. And it isn't a chocolate-covered billiard ball either.
    Is it a single item made from wood that I can throw at my pc?
    I'm only doing this because the server has been down all morning....STRESSED!!
    Is it something manufactured?
    Does it have a practical application?
    [Chalky] Spat is not the word I would have used, friendly banter seems more appropriate somehow. Do we agree though that the classification is purely on composition, and method of production doesn't come into it?
    [Inkspot] To answer your Q as a whole. Not likely.
    [Raak] No.
    [rab] By-products could have practical applications.
    Is it A vegetable in its natural state?
    [rab] Agreed - I should have prefaced the word 'spat' with the adjective 'friendly'. It was pure mischief on my part and I really should have remember that such posturing doesn't necessarily transfer well on to the screen. [Material composition - yes, which is why I still think milk should have in part an 'animal' classification :-)]
    Riff's question?
    [Boolbar] The food one.
    Aha - just seen the answer to Riff's question
    [Boolbar] Sorry - now where are my specs?
    [Chalky] Using dictionary.com :
    A plant cultivated for an edible part or the edible part of such a plant - No.
    A member of the vegetable kingdom; a plant - Yes
    Is it a living plant?
    As in an oak tree rather than oak.

    The public library - such an oasis of calm.

    Is it Michael Howard?
    Is it a whole plant?
    Is it a single, particular thing (as opposed to, say, oak trees in general)?
    Ha, nice to see I'm not the only one capable of starting minute pedantic arguments. See, everything is mineral really, and animal and vegetable are just more or less arbitrarily defined subsets of it, aren't they?

    [Kim] Unrelatedly, some friends and I once spent a lunchtime trailing after Michael Howard surreptitiously through Folkestone town centre. Our stalking attempt was foiled when he drove off in a very flash car. Curses!
    [Inkspot] Yes.
    [Kim] Great Guess! But No.
    [Raak] Yes.
    [Breadmaster] Taking your 'Oak Tree' senario. I was thinking of a single thing like "An Oak Tree" as opposed to "All Oak Trees" or "Some Oak Trees", but I would give the chair to any of those three as they would be close enough.
    Is it a tree?
    Is it a maple tree?
    Shame its not a Shrubbery! I want a shrubbery.
    A rosebush?
    [Lib]Don't we all? :)
    [rab] YES!
    [Lib] No.
    [snorgle] No.
    Is it indigenous to the UK? Silver birch?
    Bugger, off for the weekend so probably won't get this one...
    Is it an evergreen?
    [rab] It can be found in the UK but AFAIK isn't a native (except possibly scotland?).
    [Raak] Yes.
    Is it a Christmas Tree?
    [Btd] No. But I suppose it could be used as one.
    Douglas fir?
    Scots Pine?
    *Sings* "Ohhh, aahm a lumberjack and aahm OK, aah sleep all night and aah work all day!"
    Spruce?
    [snorgle,Kim,Raak] - No, to all of you. Strange that is the second Monty Python reference (clue?)
    Holly?
    As in 'Holly Grail' and 'Hollywood Bowl". ... :-)
    the Larch? The larch.
    How to recognise trees from quite far away.
    Cedar?
    The tallest tree in the forest?
    JGJG
    OJVVNBVJKNNJNHVJ
    Well done.
    Goddammit it, Snorgle must have it. Ghfhj's guess was pretty good though.
    Episode 12B. How to recognise different types of trees from quite a long way away. No. 1. The Larch. The Larch. - congrats to snorgle! Take it away . . . . .
    Animal
    the monty python hint gave it away, really..now, let's see..
    Human?
    Warm blooded?
    Is it a living, entity with polymorhing abilities?
    Moving right along to Red Dwarf.
    ...or is it something made from a dead animal?
    Is it dairy?
    To eliminate confusion as early as possible, or at least to try to! :)
    Raak - yes; plump - yep; Inkspot - no and I'll throw in the fact that it doesn't have 4 eyebrows either for free; Inkspot - ugh, no!;ZK - no.
    Is it Michael Howard?
    Male?
    Presently alive?
    Some told me recently that there are currently more people living than have ever lived. Can this be true?
    zk - no; kim - yes
    kim - click here re:population for some info..
    Four legged?
    Spurned!
    Oh sure, ignore my question, go on, I don't care. I hate this game anyway.
    *sniff*
    Are they lsted on celebdaq?would you recommend buying shares in them?
    Is the person known as a politician?
    Carefully phrased to be independent of whether the person is alive or dead.
    British?
    Riff (sorry! it was late!) Yes. Inkspot - yes (and no cheating and getting 2 questions in one!) Breadmaster - nope.
    Are they a 'singer'?
    By which I mean they get money to sing, not that they necessarily have any talent...
    An entertainer, in the broadest sense?
    i.e. including Frank Skinner, Nickel-arse Parsons etc.
    American?
    Is English his (their) first language?
    Is it a member of the British Royal Family?
    European?
    Another spurnee
    What about my last question?
    Osama bin Laden?
    David Blaine?
    Arnie?
    Ibid - no. Rosie - no. BM - no. Kayl - yes. Inkspot - no. Raak - you want to ask it again? Not Bin Laden, no. ZK - nope. barbacoa - nope.
    It's not you, is it?
    barbacoa - no.
    Nice try, though..
    BTW, when a said they're not an entertainer, I meant in the sense of Frank Skinner, Nicholas Parsons ,etc. All round entertainers. That's all.
    A sportsman?
    [snorgle] "Is the person known as a politician?" I don't see any answer to that question, or anyone else asking it. I notice Btd's "European?" has also gone unanswered.
    Is he regularly on television?
    I'd be very happy if it was one of the Knights who say NI but I fear it won't be.
    A movie star?
    Is he Australian?
    Someone in the world of Pop?...and would they cost more than £1.50 a share?
    One question but in two parts ...honest guv ;)
    Raak-I'm not deliberately not answering, you know! Therefore - not a politician, not European, not regularly on tv, not australian, not a popstar and yes, Riff, he is a movie star!
    sorry for ignoring you plump - not four-legged!
    am presuming then - an american movie star?
    Keanu Reeves?
    ooh, yes please!
    Chalky - YES! But ZK- he's canadian, I thought everyone knew that! Honestly, some people..
    It's your go now, Chalky. I saw Matrix Revolutions yesterday. Am sorely disappointed! Action scenes good, characterisation awful, ending complete cop-out. At least I got to look at cute Keanu for long periods though. We actually waited until the end of the credits (through all that outrageously loud dance music) on the off chance something else would happen. I said "That is the suckiest ending ever! It's like the end of The Empire Strikes Back, but without another part to make up for it. It's just never explained." GRR!

    Audience goes wild for Chalky, whoops, cheers, outrageous hand gestures, sausages, etc.

    *coughing*
    *Whilst cheering rapturously* would like to point out the order in which the entries came...I'm sure I knew he was canadian anyway. aren't all the stars canadian? eric mccormack is (I think), so is michael j fox, paul gross, mike meyers....
    Z.K. - it was simulposted, and you were wrong anyway..
    Dan Aykroyd, William Shatner, John Candy...
    * a bit embarrassed*
    I thankyou. That was somewhat akin to a lurker's victory. I haven't been around much this weekend, just popped in to catch up, hazarded a wild guess, and there you go ....
    [snorgs] Yes - I thought Matrix Rev was a pile of cack, but at least I didn't fall asleep during it [which I did during Matrix Reloaded].
    I'll post a new thingy tomorrow, if you don't mind. I HAD lined up a person, but we've just had one, so I'll attempt to think of something sparklingly original to brighten up a Monday morning :-)
    It's Monday morning ....
    ... and time for an * A B S T R A C T * thing
    Is it the gravitational relationship between Leonard Nimoy and Saturn?
    I think I've got it!
    snorgle
    sausages etc??!?
    Is it a human concept
    average opening gambit
    Can it be heard?
    Is it p?
    (Putting the question in the "Stance" because HTML doesn't work in Apropos.)
    Is it a good book to read by Jeffrey Archer?
    Is it found in a book?
    Is it common knowledge?
    [Btd]What is your problem with sausages? Do you want one?
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