nik] sounds like he didnt give you a ticket because he knew he wouldnt get away with it. Still ranks pretty highly with me or he wouldn't have pulled you over at all.

(Nik) Try www.upmyownarse/pettymotoringwhinges.com

[Rosie] Careful now, it's been a pleasingly long time since we had a full-blown flamewar.

[Projoy] Don't worry, I've never been good at flamewars. They require far too much effort and a short-term memory capable of remembering that I'm participating in one.

[pettymotoringwhinges] Yes please! I have loads . . .

not sure i ever remember one on here, it does seem that you are spoiling needlessly for a reaction though, rosie.

(Projoy) No flamewar. I've made my point, which stands.

No, I'm sorry, Rosie. A point simply isn't stable; it would tip over.

[SM] It depends which way up you stand it.

(SM, Darren) Points mean prizes. (wearily) What do points mean?

PRIZES!!

hooray. I would like to win a very fast loud car and drive it about extremely fast with music blaring.

[st d] If the exhaust drops off your Peugeot and you point it downhill with Take That turned up to full bifters, that's what you'll have.

[pen] Shirley you mean when the exhaust drops off your Peugeot?

[Botherer] Have you seen the amount of string holding St D's Peugeot's exhaust on?

that's not string, that's plastic bags wound round lots of times.

I was up at 0530 this morning (another of my apparently weekly trips to Heathrow to collect/deliver people) and it was 17 degrees. I still think the best summer holiday I had was in the Arctic Circle. I'll bore you with temeperature updates and whinges throughout the day...