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A tad of snow here in Bedfordshire. Just enough for the seasonal crop of cars in ditches.
Brr
–7°C in my NE-facing front porch this morning. The lowest I've seen it since putting a thermometer there some years back, so I can assess the cryotesticular potential without stepping out of doors.
I would imagine the repair of the copper/zinc primate, now meteorologically appropriate, is a matter of some delicacy.
BMW
[Raak] Got very cold over the weekend here too. So cold, in fact, that the brass shut-off I have on the sillcock at the back of the house split because I shut the valve in the brass part but stupidly did not remember to turn off the sillcock itself, so a column of water about the size of the end joint of my thumb was residing in the brass manifold, which was enough to fracture it.

To maximize the fun I did not realize this had happened until the thaw, when I went down to the basement and discovered a nice new paddling pool.

The water had sprayed up the side of the house for about a day and a half and frozen in many interesting patterns, but had also soaked into the ground and waterlogged it, causing many leakes through the basement wall and seepage through the floor itself. I took over 40 gallons of water out using the wet-vac, a submersible pump and a stream of class four Words of Power.

Class IV Words of Power
[Stevie] Are those adult words?
Power Words?
Like Kinell or Effeffess?
Word of Power
Words of Power are the way one forces out the anti-handyman demons infesting whatever it is one is attempting, in this case, keeping my machine tools dry and unrusted. I went directly to class fours as I had only just solved a similar crisis brought on by my having new gutters installed on the house and the gutter guy not understanding that if he dumped the rainfall on umptytump square feet of roof next to the basement wall, the water would soon be inside the house. I have to come up with a proper solution to that one. right now I just have an 8 foot pipe running to the edge of the property where a nice new pool forms every time we get a storm.
Does "edge of the property" = "neighbour's basement wall"?
[CdM] 8oD
Anyone had enough of 2023 yet? Gripe warning!
Among other hindrances and irritations (including starting the year with Covid) the windy miller has a case of the burnout from his real-life job and is taking at least two weeks off to sleep, and I have eczema on my effing eyelids (that's a new and unusual place, even for me).
Still to look forward to: three months of my route to work in Rotterdam being absolutely shut during June, July and August because of repairs to the massive Haringvliet bridge and a tunnel under the river a bit further north. I don't fancy joining everyone else on the road coming from Antwerp and Zeeland heading to Rotterdam taking two and a half hours to drive 40km. Hmmph.
Feel your pain with the eczema. I get it inside my ear tubing sometimes. As far as bridges and tunnels over a river, time to buy an army surplus DUKW. You could run a bus service to recoup fuel costs. It seats about twenty
Hidden textso c'mon and bring your juke-box money
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[Pen] trying saying you have COVID (Congenital Objection to Vehicular Ingress by Dams) and say you have to isolate at home.
And thirdly...
The dishwasher is broken. All it can manage is a 10 minute rinse. Aaargh.
Eyelid eczema is clearing up - I already had some evil cream but I didn't know if I'd be allowed to use it on my eyelids. Apparently I can use it for a couple of days. Last day today then. Let's see how it goes from here. (If anyone needs a recommendation, I've found that Aveeno oat-based cream is the best for keeping eczema at bay once you've swatted it with steroid creams.)
That oat-based cream puts you at risk of being kissed by a horse, I'm sure.
Oatmeal
Yep. Oat-based products were always thought to be a palliative when I were a lad, and I use Aveeno hand cream myself on my hands and in my ears. That said, I also use Mometasome cream and lotion, and on a recent re-occurrence of the odd leg-scurvy, some ointment made of what looks like petroleum jelly mixed with coal tar. I feel like the bloke from Going Postal who had the explosive socks sometimes.
Eeep, not been here in a long time!
Eeep, I've not been here in a long time! It's crazy. My hurricane lawyer now HAS my funds for repairing my house and how I'll have to take $9000 out to be able to keep staying at this hotel and pay my bills while my house is being repaired, but they are taking FOREVER in getting it to me! I'm definitely not happy with this lawyer. I'm struggling and have pulled some funds together for one more week right now . . . some of which I probably shouldn't have used, but I need to be able to extend and hopefully will have funds back . . . I will NEVER recommend this lawyer to anybody.
Getting blood out of a stone
(KS) Welcome back
[KagomeShuko] Very welcome back. Was worried!
[KS] You've been having a rough time over the last 2 years also. Will your settlement or other relief funds also pay for all your accommodation costs since the hurricane?
No auroras on Belgium, but a cracking conjunction this evening of Venus and Jupiter.
Ugh, it's awful!
[Simons Mith] [Bismarck] It's so awful! The settlement will get my house fixed, but I've already been depending on donations to stay the hotel! I told my contractor that I'll need to take out funds to stay. It won't get my house to the way she was going to make it all accessible for me, which isn't great, but I'll have my house back. Hopefully I'll get the last bit of money from a car accident settlement (different lawyer) and maybe that'll pay for my house to be more the way that I want.
Project Tiddles (South)
Following in the footsteps of Rab, I'm starting my own Project Tiddles.

Phase 1: gotta get a cat flap, or no one will even consider me for entiddlification. That's due for this Thursday.

I had never really considered getting a cat at this address before, because I'm right on a main road and I'm not really willing to accept even a low probability of a poor mog getting squished.

But then I belatedly realised (belated by $%&^$% years) that if I got a cat that was elderly, defective or otherwise unable to go out, then the road wouldn't matter nearly so much. So that's the plan. Find an old slow animal that can't be bothered to move much and spoil it rotten for its retirement

I've laid on Bird TV for it already, so we'll both have something to look at out of the window

Pets, slow
[Simons Mith] have you considered taxidermy?
[Radox] That's... not a bad idea except that a taxidermied cat would need at least occasional dusting. I consider that a step backwards from the live versions, which are self-cleaning.
Playing the Rosie Card.
When did "taxidermied" (which MS Edge doesn't even think is a word) replace "stuffed" in the discourse concerning dead, straw-filled roadkill?
I asked this in another forum recently and was assured it was to spare the sensibilities of those who would confuse a once-live but now stuffed animal cadaver with a build-a-bear.
Rebuild-A-Bear
[Stevie] You've just given me the most marvellous business idea.
Mister Flopsy, TriColour Dutch: a rabbit dead as a doornail
Gentlemen we can rebuild him
We have the technology
We have the capability to make the world's first bionic rabbit
Mister Flopsy will be that rabbit
Better than he was before
Better, Smarter, Fluffier
Taxidermiing
[Stevie] If you can't verb taxidermy, you can't have taxidermiing as a gerund. That alone should be reason enough.
(SM) Good thinking. You can't verb anything because verb is not a verb except when it is. I have now fulfilmentized my role as a member of the grammar and style police (fel aelod yr heddlu gramadeg ac arddull in Welsh BTW FWIW).
I'm half-Welsh, but I'm struggling with how to pronounce Btwfwiw.
(CdM) Try half of it then. The bigger half.
Since nouns are too often verbed, can we balance the trend by nominalizing verbs (other than the speaking entirely in gerunds)?
What's the verb form of 'nutrition'? Nutritioned? Nutritised?
nutrit, nutritted, nutriting
It's not a popular word. In use, it sounds a bit too much like something else.
(SM, pen) Nutrify. Sgoddaby.
Nourish, surely.
You can't fool us
The adjectival -ish suffix means like, or somewhat, so 'nourish' clearly means something that's a bit noury.
(SM) I have a cousin-in-law who I wouldn't be so ungallant as to describe her as a large dog but she is nevertheless Danish.
Does that imply "dish" means "like the letter D" then?
Yes, and the same for 'fish' and 'wish' too. One of the great benefits of having a highly consistent language like English is that these rules are 100% reliable.
Langur ages
Ah, but you speak of Engl, not the debased English!
Oh yeah. That is a good point.
So, if some town planner decides to make a location vaguely resemble a Birmingham suburb, would that be astonishing?
Why should I watch The Villa? They never cum to see me when I was bad.
'Astonishing' was actually a deliberate policy of post-war governments, and formed part of the overall strategy known as 'maudling'. The Thatcher government, of course, declared that 'astonishing' was old hat and Britain was now in the 'Steven age'. Thus the Villa knell was sounded.
[Super] And all this time I thought 'Stevenage' was named thus becuase it was on the River Steve.
Stevenage sounds like a statutory payment. "Stevenage Shall Be Levied At Three Shillings And Fourpence In The Pound."
[Stevenage] Surely named after the patron saint of alternating birthdays?
Something strange is going on . . .
I have two people claiming that I've posted things on Facebook that I've not posted at all. One guy claims that I keep posting about him. The only post I have is a prayer asking for prayers for somebody with his first name. The other guy claims that I have a post revealing the last name of somebody. I have a total of ZERO Facebook posts with that last name. Things have been weird for years, but they started getting much weirder lately. I have a TikTok musician who thinks I'm stalking him over me just trying to help him by doing a simple Google search of his name because he said he wanted to create a boundary between his real name and social media, so I was trying to help him and when I let him know how easily his name could be found and that he could be found on social media, he freaked out and said he he told me that he wasn't comfortable with how deeply I searched him when he said he wasn't comfortable with that (which he never said). It's so very confusing for me.
(KS) Stick to the Morniverse. We're a bit mad but we're not weird.
I had a beer delivery today. Came in three boxes. I've already got dozens of boxes. Fortunately, boxes make good cat fortresses. And these days I've got enough boxes for the most epic cat fortress ever. In fact, as I joked to the delivery driver, I could do the whole Maginot Line.

Although I suppose strictly speaking it would be a Moginot Line.

Farcebroke
[KagomeShuko] There are people/bots who replicate your fb account (photo, bio etc.) then "friend" all you know claiming your original account was hacked, then spam/phish them.
Moginot Line
[Simons Mith] Watch out for German Shepherds sneaking round the side.
Standing in Cologne railway station lookat a train with "National Express" on the side, and wondering if I have travelled in time as well as space.
(Bis) Was it a steam train?
[Rosie] Nope, just an emu. Though there was a preserved steam train in Hanover.
Tractive effort
Emus can't even fly, let alone pull trains.
Emus???
When I was in middle school, I had a student teacher who had gone to Australia. She said that emus weren't smart at all and would run straight into fences, not even TRYING to miss them.
EMUs
Electric Multiple Units, like their Diesel Multiple Units counterparts, are trains with no locomotive and localised (one or more motorised carriages pull one or more non-motorised carriages) or distributed (all carriages have motors), all controlled from a driving position at either end of the train.
Down with electrics
I did my initial trainspotting on the Oxted line. Bloody Fairburn 2-6-4T's but their exhaust could blow your ears off.
Ear-MUs
[Rosie] I think we all need some proof of this aural sectioning that you experienced...
*waves from war-torn Paris*
(Bis) The interior of Riddlesdown Tunnel is littered with severed, now largely decomposed, auditory appendages. They are, or were, mine.
[nights] on holiday in the City of Light burning cars?
Yesterday was apparently the warmest day globally since records began. Here in B it was colder than normal, but amazingly windy.
(Bis) Ackshully it was the month of June that was the warmest month in a rather precisely defined area known as Central England. It was also the warmest, unsurprisingly, that I have personally recorded here at Plas Huws (= Hughes Hall) over the 40 years I have been an amateur weather nut and before that a professional one. Gotta be precise.
So tired of this . . .
I wish I could be back in my home, but it's not ready yet. It's not even ready for living in one room. My contractor is trying to get it so I have a room and a bathroom and there's air conditioning and the outside is all okay. My vinyl siding was shipped, but delayed the last I heard.
[KS] oh my... we should bake a cake for the third(?) anniversary of the demise of your house. What's taking so long?
[Bis] Just passing through, back home now in lovely Strasbourg where no-one cares enough to set fire to anything...
Eek, they don't!
Annual review...
Another year, another OS upgrade, things sort of work, but also sort of don't... I seem to have broken the Whoops! feature.
Nope
Yet another test
It probably hasn't worked for ages, knowing me
Indeed
There's nothing like working on a live site... staging, we've heard of it. Seems to work now, of a fashion
Whoops?
I think I've used it quite recently. Within the last couple of weeks, surely?
Moi Aussie
I am an Australian. Last week. Saturday, in fact.
What'd you do, Stevie? What'd you do?
Whoops!
It worked on some games, not others. Somehow, an index had got out-of-synch with the actual gameplay, which caused the de-whoopsing to fail. This is a brittle misfeature of the server code, motivated by a desire to keep the number of SQL queries to a minimum, which is probably a somewhat redundant optimisation given the tiny amount of data involved.

Glad to hear that the feature is used by people, though, as going backwards in time is not so straightforward.

Three more hours
Last day of working before two weeks off. It'll be a staycation mostly (we've both had a lot going on this year and we need some space to just be), but we might nip to France for a night to eat the food and stock up in a French hypermarche. On my shopping list: French washing-up liquid, which comes in lots of flavours that are way less boring than the Dutch ones, and a dozen of those glass jars of pates and rilletes that last forever. I'm hungry now.
Where are you going?
[Bis] Wherever it isn't going to be raining in Nord Pas de Calais or Normandy - a comfortable few hours' drive from home in the Netherlands. We're watching the weather radar like a hawk now...
Flaming appliances
I suggest you bring your ironing with you. Many hotels have a steam iron in the room.
[Pen] say hello to the hydrangeas from me. And it's been non-stop rain in Belgium. The choice seems to be drowning in the North and burning in the South.
Found an old forum game . . .
I found an old forum game and it was simply, "Things You Don't Want to See in Your Living Room." But, the point was to be brief, but outlandish. I had put, "A really hairy gorilla shaving his armpits while he sings Handel's Hallelujah chorus."
The game you don't want to see in your living room
[KS] Sounds... interesting! Give it a go - is there a free slot or do we need to make one?
Well, we could put it on Orange if we want guaranteed fast turnover.
House and game
[Bis] August 20 was third anniversary of my house being destroyed. Insurance quit paying everything and had to hire a lawyer and only FINALLY got settlement back in March! I used up ALL of my funds as the lawyer didn't provide any advances for living expenses, so things are always tight for me right now, though trying to get online theatre classes started once I get all of my lessons made.

[pen] Last I saw, a new slot needed to be made.
[Kagome] much sympathy.
Flash - bang
Gotta put this in even though I wrote it in 2010. It's the 65th anniversary of the best thunderstorm I have ever seen, even allowing for distance lending enchantment and teenage impressability. Spoilt for life at the age of 15.
Online Safety Bill
Important service announcement: You may or may not be aware that the UK government has recently passed the Online Safety Bill. This applies to all sites with 'user-generated content', with only a handful of exemptions. (Witless below-the-line comments and fake product reviews will still be allowed.) So this site will be in scope.

OFCOM guidance is apparently forthcoming, but from reading around the Bill, my understanding is that I will be required to ensure all users are of age and further to act proactively to prevent any harmful content appearing on the pages. The consequences of not doing so could result in bankruptcy-inducing fines and/or imprisonment.

Now, obviously, this is ridiculous. This site has been running for just over twenty years (slightly miffed to have missed the anniversary in January, but there we go) in the spirit in which it is intended (notwithstanding the ever-present risk of the Morden spiral and the harm that can come from falling into one of those). So thank you all for being responsible and permitting the existence of a site that is clean, fun and requires zero moderation.

However, unfortunately, unless the guidance this is forthcoming allows the legal obligations to be performed in a light-touch and quasi-autonomous way, I don't see any alternative to pulling down the shutters and saying goodbye to this place. It's not even obvious to me that an archive of the pages can be maintained without verifying the age of anyone wanting to look at it. So archivists might want to get archiving.

In the most sweeping interpretation of this bill, the UK government will have the choice of either fully providing and even externally imposing the verification system -- a stupefying technical undertaking of something like wartime scale -- or forcing nearly every web forum, wiki, etc., that's hosted in the UK out of business or at least offshore and under non-UK proprietorship. I do not see this going well.
Yeah, maybe I'm being melodramatic. I guess we'll have to see how it shakes out with OFCOM. In the meantime, I've make a few twerks which means that the shutters will fall on any finished game that goes uncommented on for three days. If things pan out as badly as we expect, I'll disable new game creation, and we'll just play everything out...
Three days is a bit optimistic, no?
It's slightly ironic that Orange MC, which is being spammed to death, is the one site which won't be subject to these new rules as it seems to be hosted abroad.
Glass half what?
[Superman] Yes and no. When a game finishes (which hasn't happened for a while), it hangs around on the front page for three days, then you have to delve into the bran bucket of eternity to find it again. Until now, it's been possible to resuscitate games from there, but now it won't be. I don't recall that last time that happened for a reason other than spamming activity, so I don't think anyone will be too put out.
MCiOS is located in outer space, so will also duck the legislation. It's possible that OFCOM will set a threshold of as to what constitutes a 'significant' number of users, which I am sure we'll fall well below, so maybe we'll not be affected after all. On the other hand, the fact that each and every word we post is visible to the entire universe, maybe we will.
Well, given that every participant passes an exam (aka Cymraeg Epistolariat) and can create and close forums at will, one can only conclude that everyone is an approved moderator and thus exempt. As for exposing the tender masses to the awful, pornographic reality of wordplay and transit stations, well; I've been at some pains to discourage spidering. I don't see how someone with the brains of a modern UK cabinet minister is even going to find the place.
"In the meantime, I've make a few twerks..."

No wonder they want to shut you down.
The Drugs Don't Twerk
Could be a pun game in this... "Britain isn't twerking" or somesuch... "Twerking 9 to 5"
Go to twerk on an egg (the title of almost least four TikTok videos)
Twerking In A Coalmine .. going down, down, down
Adopt boreal speech
Pay's good but t'werk's 'ard.
Hi ho, hi ho...Here's an approximation of what the associated dance number in Disney's live-action remake of Snow White will look like.
Grieving
I'm so sad and crying at times. I had to make that terrible choice of saying goodbye to one of my dogs, Niblet, on November 27. I talked to him and asked him if he wanted to go to heaven or stay o earth. I always had a way of communicating with him by showing him the fingers and he could nose or lick the choice.

His kidney enzymes were so high that the computer coulndn't read them. He could no longer walk correctly. I tried to feed him a tiny piece of ham and he wasn't able to eat it even though he tried. His tongue was so dry because he was dehydrated.

He was my Mama's dog first. When she was really bad in a nursing home, all she would write was "take care of Niblet." I loved and still love that little baby so much. I truly believe he is in heaven, but it is difficult.

Thankfully, my little service dog, Radar, is just fine and is with me.
Brainstorming
Also,

I was wondering if y'all could help me brainstorm. I'm trying to figure out ways to promote my online theatre classes. As a friend of mine said, it just takes the one right person to get the ball rolling. I've told a few local connections about the classes and that they'll let people know if they know of anybody.

Also, perhaps on how to get more followers on TikTok. I'm VERY SLOWLY gaining followers. If I get to over 1,000 followers, then I can be a guest on the LateTok show (I'm pretty sure the reason for that is simply because that's what you need to go live on TikTok) and obviously, I could also go live on TikTok to answer questions about theatre - like I see vocal coaches go live to answer questions about the voice and singing. So, if you have ideas, please let me know!

And if you are interested, you can find more info at https://theatregeekery.neocities.org
Storm approaching.
[KagomeS] I'm sorry about your dog - they have such short lives compared to the amount of life they bring to ours. We just have to make sure that those short lives are the best.
And this theatre thing... maybe - maybe - the way to bring TikTokkers to your theatre skills is ... to make TikTok content that tells people how to put theatre skills into their TikToks, or identify the theatrical techniques that TikTokkers are already using? I'm thinking of something in parallel with the linguists and etymologists who keep appearing on my Instagram reels. They make post after post by digging deep into language and introduce their mini-lectures with a trending TT reel or something newsworthy or a factoid, give a burst of proper intelleckshual linformation in very ordinary and usuable context, and then encouage viewers at the end to 'Follow along if you feel like it. I'm thinking in particular of https://www.threads.net/@abraham.piper with 600,000 followers.
Ooh, I think Pen's is a great idea. "How to stage a play in 180 seconds"
From my own experience slowly building a followership on Google plus (I worked up from a couple of dozen up to the high hundreds), consistent posting is overwhelmingly the most important thing. Doesn't matter what the frequency is, but you gotta stick to it. I wasn't really trying, but I did make a point of ensuring some activity 'every few days'. If you were a regular weekly visitor you would have seen something new every week. Vital to pace yourself and allow a good amount of slack. Also mentioning and cross-recommending other good posters is a great idea; even if they don't reciprocate (and they probably will), becoming a good 'hub' is highly valuable.
Once things start getting serious, which I hope they will, then it becomes worth setting up automatically scheduled posts and building up a buffer. I never got to that point and as it was only vanity posting I probably wouldn't have worried about it. Even so, if I'd ended up with a really big followership I might have decided they deserved more care and set things up properly.
Google Plus?
[Simons] I'm not really sure how to use Google Plus. I have a Google One account. I bought that back when I thought I was going to be home a few months back and had a bit of money.

[pen] I'll have to look for videos that could go with my stuff. That's a good idea.
[KagomeShuko] Google plus is long dead. I strongly recommend doing everything you can to limit your exposure to Google products. They're notorious for killing them off. YouTube and Gmail look all right for now, but I wouldn't count on even them long term. See https://killedbygoogle.com/ for what I mean.
Seasoned Greetings
A merry foodmas to you all, hope it's a restful one and that you're all safe, warm and have some treats.
Happy Christmas!
Merry, and Happy, everyone
And thanks as always to the Rabs, the Dans, the Dunxen, and all the other past hosters of international silliness.
Is it safe to post something this year yet?
HNY all. First snow of the year here in NL - a decent dusting of big wet snowflakes, enough to white everything out and make a mess with slushy tracks holding ice cold water along all the paths. (And a flash of lightning and a big clap of thunder this morning at 7am too).
[penelope] HNY2U2! I got snow here too, but it only just reached the point where you could no longer keep count of individual flakes. Pathetic.
But it's freezing out there now. And the garden is lightly scattered with older unmelted ice chunks cracked out of the bird bath. I am worried about the sparrows. I still have my regular starling visitors but haven't seen any of the sparrows since before Christmas. They had to go a few days without mealworms because I was away; I hope they didn't all starve when their worm supply was interrupted. They did have fallback fatballs but they're barely touched.
Snow
We had 11 cm of snow here in Belgium (between 4 and 5 inches). It's still around as the temperature hasn't got above freezing. We're having a real winter for once.
Looking for animal tracks in snow-time is fun - last night we got some strange ones that I'd almost swear are rabbits, and our red squirrel is still there. We're in a typical suburban area with gardens.
What a mess!
Woke up to a crashed mail server this morning. Closer inspection revealed that it had found the disk full... which was due to this site generating reams of warnings in the webserver logs, due to what used to be bona fide PHP convenience shortcuts now being considered bad programming. The easy way out was to stop the warnings being emitted. But I never take the easy way out, so have tried to track down all uses of the shortcuts and replaced with their more explicit counterparts. It's been a game of whack-a-mole so far... but I'll keep monitoring the logs and keep whacking as you (or, more likely, search engines) find cases I've missed.
Mobility hooter
Looking good so far.
Now in Colo(u)r
Nicely does it.
Snow
Got some fox tracks the day after the rabbits. Was most pleased. Yesterday the temperature went from -2 to +9 and the snow simply disappeared as a front came through.
apres snow
It was quite a front, though - a bit blowy! The snow didn't completely disappear until Sunday afternoon, and there was still some ice on little stretches of water. Today was the best lunchtime dog walk for ages: no nasty weather to contend with (I had to take off me hat and gloves after half of it) and the dog set up a pheasant, which has made his day.
[rab] Thanks for the hard work to ensure at least two MC servers stay up :)
Server demise
The appendix to Stovold, hidden these many ages long in the CAMREC library, include the prophecies relating to the demise of the universe, in which those who may reach Mornington Crescent will be announced as the late arrivals, while all others will be put in spoon, to be knidded by ostriches throughout all eternity to the sound of the trombone. There's something about Felicity Kendal as well, but it's disputed.
still taking into account everything said here. Also, looking for contractor fraud lawyers in Louisiana. The contractor that I hire is threatening to sue me if I go public with the information of how she hasn't done the work she's been paid to do.
[KS] Sheesh... Sorry you're going through this over such a long time. is there a contract clause that states "we can do what we like and you aren't allowed to complain, same to you and no returns"? How do they deal with people giving them negative reviews on social media?
Happy Easter!
Happy? You're not a Chelsea supporter, are you.
Stamford Bridge is falling down?
Nope, Chelsea is not important to me. I do follow another blue-clad side, but they're not even as high up in the leagues as Chelsea.
Blue is the colour, football is the game
So coy, Bismarck!
It's a very good time to be a fan of blue-clad Ipswich Town at the moment. And I've just stuck my cricket fixture calendars up, so am hoping for some dry weather to enable more sporting joy!
Blue is the colour, money is the game
The man from The Grauniad reckoned that hard as Chelsea tried to lose the game, as usual, they nevertheless won it 4-3. They were playing Man U, after all.
Technically back in my house . . .
[Bis] Pretty much. Like, they don't require them to have contracts and they don't require them to follow the contracts if they have them. Then lawyers don't take contractor fraud cases.

I'm technically back in my house as I am in the house, but it's not great. There's no heat, but there is air. Thankfully temps seem to be 60F and up. I certainly hope it stays that way. I can then bundle up.

I don't have hot water. I don't have a kitchen. The tiny passageway of a hall makes it so I can JUST get trhough using a rollator, not even my transport chair. This contractor is a hue jerk. I'd have much stronger words, but I'm not putting them here.

In February, when the place I was staying was shut down by the fire marshal, we had one night in another hotel and then I was literally TOLD that I was going to be at her house. She said that I would be there for one week and she wouldn't let me have my little service dog. There was only one day where she wasn't trying to break my spirit with all of her yelling at me and insults.

I was so distressed that one day, I called the police to help get me out of that situation. They didn't help. Instead, they call her and talk to her, despite my protesting. I didn't give them her information. A guy that was living in her guest house called her. She's claiming to be traumatized by that. She wasn't even at the house. I was outside waiting for the police. She's just a huge jerk. Only reasons she would be traumatized are that she already has a record and if she doesn't, she absolutely knows that she's done wrong.
[Kagome] Anything I can do to help?
Hide tags and punctuation
Hidden text"Quote marks" and apostrophe's (just trolling with that one) don't seem to be translated correctly inside hide tags.
Tractors
[Tuj] Congratulations!
Hidden textAdmittedly, you probably cannot take much personal credit
[CdM]
Hidden textNone whatsoever
:D much appreciated!
Further tractor stuff
This is a fairly recent nickname but then to me, of course, Harold Wilson is a fairly recent Prime Minister. I've only seen Ipswich once but they lost 10-1 to Fulham for whom everything turned to gold, including a a goal direct from a corner by the great Tosh Chamberlain. It was a filthy wet afternoon in 1963 with rain and hail. Later, Ipswich had a couple of FORRINERS, two rather good Dutch players, Thijssen and Muhren. This was quite a novelty then. In their new flashy surroundings they will need more than that, preferably access to the huge piles of loot in yet another boiling-hot backward desert shit-hole. Otherwise they'll be out of their depth and have just one season in the Moneyball League. A great shame, but that's modern sport.
Time off for good behaviour?
I've just booked Friday 5 July off work. I intend to pull an all-nighter in front of the telly and social media on Thursday night. Anyone else?
Love to, but I've got to inspect a train those days and I'll no doubt be too frazzled. I was wondering if I should binge on "Life on Mars", what were you thinking about watching?
I suppose we should ask if it all went well?
Yesterday the European Championships of football got under way, and as usual people were straight onto the statistics of rare occurrences. While it might be interesting to have the fastest goal or the youngest player record, saying that something is the third this, or only the fourth time that..., is of far less interest even for those interested in football.
I'd like to propose the name of "the Grover effect" for this, after the limerick:

There once was a batsman called Grover,
Who scored thirty-six runs in one over!
Which had never being done
By a clergyman's son
On a Sunday, in August, at Dover!

With me on this?

Diced left-arm off-spinners
(Bismarck) No, not by a clergyman's son on an August Sunday at Dover but by the great Gary Sir Garfield Sobers on an August afternoon in 1968 at Swansea, off the bowling of Malcolm Nash. Serve 'im right. Bloody South Walians.
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They've got another five hundred and fifty to go, this could be quite boring.
Spam starting like this is like finding a couple of ants in the kitchen - you know there's going to be more along shortly.
Calling Raak
[Raak] Please could you remind me of your email address (obfusc. as necessary). I've largely rewritten my, er, mathematical thing for the Summer of Math Exposition, and I think the new version is significantly more convincing. Even though you never said you'd seen anything wrong with the old one... My offline email database is currently extra-offline thanks to a hardware failure.
[SM]
My first is in Richard, and so're the next six
An at sign; the next begins kerning, and kicks
The next starts elopement, and is most of epee
Then the middle of and, and the start of "no way!"
That letter once more, and then half of an aa
And a "way" to complete it; if you're with me thus far
A dot and an org and a dot and an uk
And that is the whole of the handle — good luck!

Bonus clue: I'm probably distantly related to these people

I tried asking ChatGPT 4o to decode that, and it couldn't quite manage it.
I’d have got it wrong; I assumed way = rd!
Lovely. That should be the standard way to obscure email addresses.
A friend of mine is a Greenaway which is also quite a rare name. Slightly etymologically connected, if not genealogically.
JoooLy
So how's everyone doing?
I've got bloomin' loads to do at work. Haven't managed to look in here for a while.
Well I'm okay, apart from a week's pretty horrible toothache. My work is kinda chill - I feel a bit underemployed at times. But it's partly because I'm doing stuff that generates work for others, and then I have to wait for them to do it before I can do my next bit. I definitely get more done when I'm at the end of a chain like that than in the middle. Out of work, I want to enter Grant Sanderson's Summer of Math Exposition competition this year, and I've co-opted Raak as maths consultant. Deadline for that is mid-late August so I've still got weeks to go. I think/hope the work is in the last 10% (the part that takes 90% of the time) but... we'll see.
[SM] Did you get my answer suggesting that the Collatz jelly has fallen off the wall again? :) I just noticed I sent it to the zen[randomnumbers] address instead of your readable email.
[Raak] I did receive it - the darn webmail form constantly auto-refills the zenxxxxx address every time I tweak the email (such as by adding an attachment), and it's easy to fail to catch it. My short answer to the jelly question is that I don't think it matters because even when the numbers rise, their 'rail number' still ticks down inexorably. Showing that numbers can rise as high as they like and yet it still doesn't help them escape is a key thing I'm trying to make clear. But you exposed an area where I'm not saying what I really wanted to - so I'll be fixing that and sending you a reply, probably at the weekend. I was also sidetracked into wondering whether numbers in the sequence have a provable 'high water mark'. If you could show that no number n can ever rise above, say, 2^n, that could be another clincher. 2^n ought to give sufficient headroom, right?
[nominative etymology] There's a place called Kenovay on the island of Tiree, which looks like a phonetic rendering of its Gaelic name Ceann a’ Bhàigh, which means "head of the bay", or Bayhead ("the parst of a bay most distant from the larger body of water with which it is confluent"). There are a couple more Ceann a’ Bhàighs and Bayheads in the Hebrides. So that could be the origin of the name.
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[1] Welcome back!
test
I don't seem to be able to post in the AVMA game. Is this working?
How odd...
AVMA
[CdM] I was just able to post there (then "whoopsed" it away, which sounds a bit toilety) - using Safari on latest MacOS in case that helps.
[blame] Turned out the issue was that ā, entered directly from the keyboard, apparently upsets mc5 to the point where it can’t even. It works over at Dan’s place.
Just A Minim
Does anyone know if ISIHAC ever played Just A Minim with Aretha's "Respect"? - I found myself giggling a little too much imagining the "sock it to me" and "just a little bit" parts in that game. For that matter, and plummeting to the opposite end of the musical quality spectrum, Gina G's "Ooh ah, just a little bit" might have been rich territory too.
I dunno, but in the movie Rat Race Rowan Atkinson sings it to a different tune playing on the radio.
Been awhile
Been awhile since I've been here. Things are still not great for me. I'm having to save up to afford a consultation with a lawyer. My cousins in California have it arranged so I get paid a monthly amount so I can pay my bills. I'm looking for a work from home job, but it's also difficult because ALL my nerves are healing (long story) and they make me feel AWFUL and make it difficult to do things.

The lawyer consultation is needed because the contractor fraud hotline that is supposed to take things seriously didn't take things seriously at all. They let the contractor give a list of five things that were done and didn't pursue the case. So, here I am, sitting in a house with an air conditioner that doesn't work properly and burning up so much during this very hot August. And constantly hearing some critter in my walls. Knowing that what was done was probably only worth up to $100,000 and that there are tons of used items (should have never happened) in my house.
Welcome back
Sorry to hear of the continued troubles, but welcome back - hope some silly word games here can be a useful distraction.
I echo blamelewis' sentiments. Don't forget you have friends here even if we are a bit mad (in the British sense).
I have some roof repair money I could redirect...
Not long ago I put a few hundred dollars aside to help someone whose roof needed repairs. They didn't need it in the end, so I've got no probs redirecting that cash
Hello, all
Ah right, just checking a few things...
(rab) Yma o hyd, ti'n gwbod
I'd appreciate the help, but?
[Simons Mith] I'd appreciate the help, but being I'm in the US, I don't know if you'd be able to help me out.
Whatever channel is most convenient, I guess
The previous was just a GoFundme. I paid, then it was cancelled, then I got a refund. An electronic transfer probably is easiest. Or I could just post a cheque, but it would be in pounds.
I don't actually know how big the bite GoFundMe takes compared to just a bank, but I presume they're similar.
?
[Simons Mith] I've never done pounds to USD. I have all the payment methods we use in the states - CashApp, Venmo, and Paypal. I don't know if they do conversions. Of course, then there's my bank account . . .

I don't know about a check in pounds and the conversion.
Pounds to Dollars
(KS) Pounds are big. One pound is currently about 1.31 US dollars.
How do I do a Venmo?
It's US only.
Well, that's not helpful
[Simons Mith] I tried joining Revolut, but they don't have it set up yet, or again, or something, for people in the US to be able to receive funds.
Hmmm
[Simons Mith] I found this: https://wise.com/us/send-money/send-money-to-the-usa-from-the-uk I'd be glad to give you my information in private somehow. I have Facebook Messenger and Instagram and TikTok where I can send private messages. I'm not sure if I have anything else.
Wise looks all right
zen*co*uk
cont'd
simon_smith followed by a hippopotamus symbol
Oh whatami to do?
I tried using an actual hippopotamus emoji but it seems rab.org frowns on their use.
Wise is, afaik, a reputable and reliable source for transferring funds (though I haven't used it). I have used OFX, which I have found to be straightforward and reliable.
signed up
I signed up for OFX, so now I have an account there. I hadn't know of OFX or found it when I was searching.
Maybe not . . .
I got a text saying that they needed me to call to finish setting up my account. So, been waiting for over 10 minutes for them to answer the phone to get me connected with one of the OFX . . . and as I'm typing, they answer. But, I was told that I don't need the account to RECEIVE money, just need to give my bank details to the sender.
Another one
KS - did the latest hurricane Francine cause you any problems?
Thankfully not
[Bis] Thankfully, Francine didn't hit where I live. They thought there would be storms, but all that happened was a bit of rain where I am.
why are contractors so difficult?
I contacted a contractor . . . on September 19th and they came out and I sent them the insurance estimate, but I've not gotten an estimate back for what repairs would cost. It sucks knowing that the contractor I had was constantly lying to me and purposefully taking advantage of me, KNOWING my disabilities and my troubles. She barely finished ANYTHING. Nothing is 100% right in my house.
Hopefully a contractor is coming in about an hour.

In the mean time, I'm watching this guy on TikTok and I like this video. English breaks French with words that seem like they should rhyme.
Best thing seen on the internet today
“I think you’ll find it’s fewer miserables.”
[CdM] .. and fandom of the opera. A game idea perhaps?
Pedantry up with which I shall not put.
I like this idea
Language, Broadway, Language!
So, that means it's should be Buttbuttins, right?
Hahah, you said butt!
I found out . . .
[Simons Mith] Haha! Butt, butt, BUTT of course.

I have Cash Giraffe on my phone, which gets me a few points for playing games and then converts them into rewards. I found out that it pays in Euros, but that Paypal converts foreign currency to USD!
Merry Thing
Happy holidays to those who have 'em, and safety and warmth to those having tricky times. I delight at the Morningverse, still a corner of the internet unspoiled and fun.
Merry Christmas everyone!
Happy 2025 all
It's the 6th already so it looks like we have our feet firmly into 2025 and there's no going back. Good to see you all still here.
We may be all here but are we all there?
[pen] Don't we get 28 days to reconsider? Don't think I want the old year back anyway, but Statues have rights... or something...
[bllamelewis] Try sending it back, see what happens? (I'm just going to hold my nose and go forward...)
Here, but not happy . . .
I'm still dealing with this major contractor fraud and the fact that she put rodents all into my walls and ceiling . . . and they have scratched their way out. It's so bad that they are ALL OVER my bedroom every evening, even jumping on me.
Feb up
[pen] Looks like we're stuck with this year then...
[blamelewis] Hold on a mo... sun's out today! Politics is a bit too gripping for my liking though.
In Belgium we have a national government, only 234 days after the elections and only 1593 days till the next ones. What's gripping in Dutch politics?
Bit nippy out there. Have I missed much?
MCiOS
Anyone else having trouble reaching MCiOS?
It's back
Stand down, no one panic! NO ONE PANIC!!
Notice served
Hello. You've probably seen the note on the front page. After much contemplation and careful reading of the documentation, I have decided that remaining open for play after the UK's Online Safety Act kicks in is more trouble than it's worth. I would appreciate it if you could play out all the games by then - no new games can be started as these ones close. Those with unguessable winning moves, or are otherwise unwinnable, will be won with the standard move. Thanks for all the fun. I will refrain from any political commentary, other than a general comment that it rarely ends well when governments get interested in technology.
Thanks for all the fish
(Not that I wish to imply that I have the wisdom and intellect of a dolphin)

Thanks, rab, for building and maintaining this site for so long.
Seconded
😢
🙏
Thirded
Thanks, Rab, it's been a great place to be. I shall miss it.
Digital Pitchforks
Sincere thanks, Rab. I will miss this site.
A quarter century is a good run. I'm extremely grateful too. Shall we try... Discord or somewhere?
This has been a splendid place. It will be missed. Thank you Rab.
Noooooo
Aw darn. Has it been 25 years? Thanks so much rab for all the efforts. The place will indeed be missed.
All the twos
22 it is.
22
Still think of this as the new place! :)
I coulda swore
If Rab hadn't said 22 I would have pegged the site at 25. I started posting to OMC in '99 and could swear MC5 was "a thing" then. Another win for Mr Brain.
Shame
The law of unexpected consequences strikes again. It was nice while it lasted.
[rab] Thank you for all the years of fun.
Farewell
[rab] I've not been a great contributor to this site sticking mainly to MCiOS and before that Orange but have occasionally posted here. Regardless of that, it's a damned shame that you feel forced to shut the site due to the Act, and I am sorry to see that the site will close.
So, we'll just be left with MCiOS - let's hope we can avoid that having a similar fate.
Let me agree with Blob that this is not just a tragedy. It is a catastrophe.
Given that the last day of operation is the ides of March, Maybe we could try writing a Julius Caesar parody to bid it farewell?
Yon Online Safety Act has a lean and hungry look...
The online safety act may look like a nuisance, but it might do some good here. Many liberals have been arguing for years for better pun controls.
Will miss this.
[rab] Thanks so much for hosting this place! I will miss coming here to play games! I've not found any other places like this.
Grat attack
Thanks all for your kindness and understanding. I remind you that MCiOS will remain in orbit, so plenty of fun still to be had. At least, for now.
Well...
[rab] Mmm, I'm still considering that. I've been following certain analysts and commentators on the subject of the UK OSA for a while, and I've already made a few changes to help limit abuse potential, against the possibility of remaining online -- for example, IMG tags are now no longer supported, though ones posted in the past will still work. Yes, my exposure is less than yours, as A) it's not hosted in the UK, but that carries little weight: in practice, entire European governments are hosted largely in the US; and B) I am not a UK subject. Nevertheless it's not a simple matter and I'm still watching the issue closely before deciding which way to jump. I'll have more to say over there in due course as the picture develops, but I thought I ought to respond to you there.
Thanks Dan. I agree with your comments particularly around the lack of technical solutions for proactive automated moderation.
MCiOS
[rab] MCiOS? Google thinks I want MCIPS or Military Criminal Investigative Organizations.
MC in Outer Space
spam filter
[rab] Darn, I can't get past the Spam filter despite putting answers in the little field under the main one.
filter
Are you using a capital at the start? Just the surname.
[blamelewis] It's not case sensitive and uses a 'contains' test rather than an 'equals'. For example, if "Potato" were one of the accepted responses, "59g gmlXs!poTAtowiBBle88" would work just fine.
[Dan] good to know! But how did you know my password?? ;)
I've just read OfCom's allegedly helpful page for small site owners and I have to say I can't say I blame rab for his decision. Both onerous and vague at the same time.

That said, some friends of mine have been promising, re the OSA, that we'd see a huge wave of site closures off the back of it, and I have to say that not many so far have been publicised. Perhaps, like this one, they're going uncounted or unreported, but it is interesting that a lot of services have apparently decided to make a go of it.

Things like this remind me of other legislation that was meant to curtail exploitation or cavalier profiteering by "the big guys" but which do get applied to small voluntary efforts with chilling effects on certain activities. Examples from the past would be copyright, child performance licensing, minimum wage (especially when volunteer roles become overly regimented and start to fall into the scope of employment), disclosure and barring (not because it's a bad idea but because in practice large backlogs occur) and various bits of health and safety. This seems to be the latest example in that it's understandable why the legislation exists even when it has dumb effects in the wrong places. A lot of people have been harmed by the way social media are misused by some, and you have to have some sort of enforcement backstop to that when people can operate anonymously and therefore beyond the reach of enforcement against them as individuals. Conversely, the anon internet has had significant social benefits for people whose interests, personalities or way-of-seeing-the-world fall outside the mainstream, because we're less likely to make satisfactory social connections in our immediate geographic community. But do people like that need anonymity? Not always, but I can think of several scenarios where it helps, especially given that online bullying, and harrassment that crosses over into the real world, are among the real harms I mentioned above. Interesting times.
By instinct and long habit, I didn't mention that the potential bad actors against anonymous minority groups might also include governments. Having grown up in a country where the government tends to do more of its harms through mistakes than through intention, I guess I've always had a lot of faith that authorities would ultimately want to see fair treatment. That faith is beginning to be profoundly shaken.
[Bad Actors]
I think it is prudent to assume that at any given time, it is 100% certain that /some/ governments will always be members of the list of bad actors. That has to be taken into account at a fundamental design level.
Got it!
[blame lewis] It FINALLY let me post. I figured it was the same password as here.
In case life overtakes me and I don't get to post here again just to reiterate massive thanks and respect to rab for creating and maintaining this place. Having posted this I'll probably be back every day until the shutdown :)
[blame] Agreed! Thank you so much to rab for many years of Little Pleasures. (and footnote to above, given today's announcement of the abolition of NHS England I wonder how far behind OfCom might be...)
The End is Nigh
Oh goodness, it's galloping up, isn't it? Do please drop me an email, anyone who cares to: simon_smith&zen,co,uk, after making the necessary adjustments Huuuge thanks to rab; I'm gonna miss this place a lot
Taking this opportunity to say Goodbye to this site and express my shock, horror, amazement, astonishment, surprise, anger, sadness, thankfulness, and custard. And a merry Christmas to you all.
Special Years
It's been a blast. I've laughed and been impressed in equal measure. Thanks dear Rab x
Say It Ain't So
Tom, Tom, Lend me your grey mare
I wanna go back to Whitticome Fair
With Bill and Jan, Peter and Dan
Harry and Pete, on the moors we'll meet
All down along out along lee
All down along out along lee
For he's a jolly good fellow
rab, thank you for over 2 decades of selfless hospitality. We can never repay you <3
Thanks, rab, for keeping this playground open for us all, all these years. It has been a part of my life.
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